Study on where DC criminals source illegal guns?

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Anonymous wrote:DC: “But no longer is law enforcement seeing the majority of illegal firearms coming from Virginia. Since the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives began firearms examinations in place of D.C.’s Department of Forensic Sciences 10 months ago, Geldart said, they’ve recorded a change in the source.

“Right now, primarily what we’re seeing are guns that are coming in from Georgia and North Carolina. Those are the two primary areas, and, of course, we’re working with the ATF and they’re working with the states and all of that to see how we start to curb some of that,” Geldart said.
https://wtop.com/dc/2022/01/dcs-geldart-illegal-guns-coming-into-district-from-southern-states/

Baltimore: “More than 1,000 crime guns recovered in 2019 traced back to Virginia alone. Another 2,500-plus came from other jurisdictions, including Pennsylvania, the Carolinas, Georgia, West Virginia, and even as far away as Texas.”
https://www.baltimoremagazine.com/section/community/iron-pipeline-gun-violence-out-of-state-traffickers/

Effin red states. The hypocrisy of the GOP that loves to point out Democrat city crime rates while ironically, red states' inability to crack down on straw purchase trafficking contributes considerably to democratic city gun crime.

Effing blue criminals. The hypocrisy of the DNC.

Why are you here?

Did you not see the title of this board? It's "DC Urban Mons and Dads." It's not "Red State Yahoos and Gun Nuts."

Why do you feel compelled to come here and be an idiot? Do you think we are missing something? Do you think we haven't heard the crap you come here and parrot from FOX News, Daily Caller and all the other far right mouthpieces? Because we have already heard it all. Do you think we don't think about your point of view? We do, and we still disagree. Do you think you're convincing any of us to change our minds? You aren't.

And who cares what you think?
These are not Republican voters committing these crimes in DC.
These are your fellow Democrats.
Facts matter except to fools like you.
Do you think I believe I can change your mind?
I dont. But, I do like to point out the obvious that completely goes right past you.
And its fun for me to do so!

What keeps going right past YOU is the FACT that if Republican voters passed sensible, responsible gun laws, there would be a whole lot less gun crime - not just in DC but EVERYWHERE IN THE US because it also happens in red states too - and when you look at the per-capita rates some of the reddest counties are even worse than DC for gun deaths. Is it fun for you to be embarrassed and proven wrong? Because, you just were.

Democrat cities in red states are where all the gun crimes are committed by Democrat criminals.
Nice try at gas lighting.
Go back to watching your Reid Out.
I have a no fear whatsoever of being robbed or car jacked when I walk out my front door and you cannot truthfully say the same thing.

They buy their guns from republican gun nut sellers who don't care about straw purchases. You cant have one without the other

If you are referring to gun shows, only 2% of gun crimes can be traced to purchases at gun shows. Fact.
1st, how about having your Democrat prosecutors do their jobs and send your Democrat criminals to jail for long prison sentences?

No, I'm referring to gun sellers in red states and the criminals there who can buy guns in bulk and traffic them without repercussions. So how about Red state representatives actually pass laws to curtail straw purchases (clearly blue state laws WORK or our criminals wouldn't have to turn 100s of miles away for guns, no?) and red state police and prosecuters do their job to investigate and crack down on straw purchases.

Plentiful research that shows that a good chunk of gun sellers are willing to sell knowingly to a potential straw purchaser or willfully ignore signs of a straw purchaser. Interesting how you turn a blind eye to those criminals.

Straw purchasers contribute to gun crime everywhere, why don't red states bother to crack down on them better?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2937134/

"Twenty percent of the licensed firearm retailers in our study population agreed to assist a potential handgun buyer with a transaction that had many attributes of an illegal surrogate or “straw” purchase. Others, while saying no, offered the buyer concrete assistance in completing a purchase they appeared to understand was against the law. In multivariate analysis, pawnbrokers were more than six times as likely as gun dealers to give a positive response."

https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/9/2/147

Most dealers were willing to sell a handgun regardless of the end user (self: 87.5%; gift: 70.8%; “need”: 52.5%). Multivariate analyses indicate that dealers in the Midwest, South, and West were more willing to sell than those in the Northeast (adjusted odds ratio (AOR) = 21.30, 18.74, and 8.93, respectively) and that willingness to sell is lower when the sale would be illegal, that is, under the “need” condition (AOR = 0.20)

So sure, perhaps we need DC to file more lawsuits like this, repeatedly. We know that GOP states don't give a flying hoot about what their gun sellers do.

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/16/nyregion/16guns.html

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Anonymous wrote:DC: “But no longer is law enforcement seeing the majority of illegal firearms coming from Virginia. Since the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives began firearms examinations in place of D.C.’s Department of Forensic Sciences 10 months ago, Geldart said, they’ve recorded a change in the source.

“Right now, primarily what we’re seeing are guns that are coming in from Georgia and North Carolina. Those are the two primary areas, and, of course, we’re working with the ATF and they’re working with the states and all of that to see how we start to curb some of that,” Geldart said.
https://wtop.com/dc/2022/01/dcs-geldart-illegal-guns-coming-into-district-from-southern-states/

Baltimore: “More than 1,000 crime guns recovered in 2019 traced back to Virginia alone. Another 2,500-plus came from other jurisdictions, including Pennsylvania, the Carolinas, Georgia, West Virginia, and even as far away as Texas.”
https://www.baltimoremagazine.com/section/community/iron-pipeline-gun-violence-out-of-state-traffickers/

Effin red states. The hypocrisy of the GOP that loves to point out Democrat city crime rates while ironically, red states' inability to crack down on straw purchase trafficking contributes considerably to democratic city gun crime.

Effing blue criminals. The hypocrisy of the DNC.

Why are you here?

Did you not see the title of this board? It's "DC Urban Mons and Dads." It's not "Red State Yahoos and Gun Nuts."

Why do you feel compelled to come here and be an idiot? Do you think we are missing something? Do you think we haven't heard the crap you come here and parrot from FOX News, Daily Caller and all the other far right mouthpieces? Because we have already heard it all. Do you think we don't think about your point of view? We do, and we still disagree. Do you think you're convincing any of us to change our minds? You aren't.

And who cares what you think?
These are not Republican voters committing these crimes in DC.
These are your fellow Democrats.
Facts matter except to fools like you.
Do you think I believe I can change your mind?
I dont. But, I do like to point out the obvious that completely goes right past you.
And its fun for me to do so!

What keeps going right past YOU is the FACT that if Republican voters passed sensible, responsible gun laws, there would be a whole lot less gun crime - not just in DC but EVERYWHERE IN THE US because it also happens in red states too - and when you look at the per-capita rates some of the reddest counties are even worse than DC for gun deaths. Is it fun for you to be embarrassed and proven wrong? Because, you just were.

Democrat cities in red states are where all the gun crimes are committed by Democrat criminals.
Nice try at gas lighting.
Go back to watching your Reid Out.
I have a no fear whatsoever of being robbed or car jacked when I walk out my front door and you cannot truthfully say the same thing.

They buy their guns from republican gun nut sellers who don't care about straw purchases. You cant have one without the other

If you are referring to gun shows, only 2% of gun crimes can be traced to purchases at gun shows. Fact.
1st, how about having your Democrat prosecutors do their jobs and send your Democrat criminals to jail for long prison sentences?

No, I'm referring to gun sellers in red states and the criminals there who can buy guns in bulk and traffic them without repercussions. So how about Red state representatives actually pass laws to curtail straw purchases (clearly blue state laws WORK or our criminals wouldn't have to turn 100s of miles away for guns, no?) and red state police and prosecuters do their job to investigate and crack down on straw purchases.

Plentiful research that shows that a good chunk of gun sellers are willing to sell knowingly to a potential straw purchaser or willfully ignore signs of a straw purchaser. Interesting how you turn a blind eye to those criminals.

Straw purchasers contribute to gun crime everywhere, why don't red states bother to crack down on them better?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2937134/

"Twenty percent of the licensed firearm retailers in our study population agreed to assist a potential handgun buyer with a transaction that had many attributes of an illegal surrogate or “straw” purchase. Others, while saying no, offered the buyer concrete assistance in completing a purchase they appeared to understand was against the law. In multivariate analysis, pawnbrokers were more than six times as likely as gun dealers to give a positive response."

https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/9/2/147

Most dealers were willing to sell a handgun regardless of the end user (self: 87.5%; gift: 70.8%; “need”: 52.5%). Multivariate analyses indicate that dealers in the Midwest, South, and West were more willing to sell than those in the Northeast (adjusted odds ratio (AOR) = 21.30, 18.74, and 8.93, respectively) and that willingness to sell is lower when the sale would be illegal, that is, under the “need” condition (AOR = 0.20)

So sure, perhaps we need DC to file more lawsuits like this, repeatedly. We know that GOP states don't give a flying hoot about what their gun sellers do.

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/16/nyregion/16guns.html

This, right here.

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What difference does it make where the guns come from? This is like worrying about which countries ship narcotics into the us. If it doesn’t come from one place, it will come from another.

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Anonymous wrote:What difference does it make where the guns come from? This is like worrying about which countries ship narcotics into the us. If it doesn’t come from one place, it will come from another.

Sure why bother. Lawstt

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Anonymous wrote:What difference does it make where the guns come from? This is like worrying about which countries ship narcotics into the us. If it doesn’t come from one place, it will come from another.

Sure why bother. Lawstt

I grew up in a red state where there were lots of guns and there is way, way, way more gun violence here than there, despite all of our laws

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What difference does it make where the guns come from? This is like worrying about which countries ship narcotics into the us. If it doesn’t come from one place, it will come from another.

Sure why bother. Lawstt

I grew up in a red state where there were lots of guns and there is way, way, way more gun violence here than there, despite all of our laws

Your red state is probably supplying guns to the criminals here. Why do our criminals have to source their guns from a red state 100s of miles away?

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Anonymous wrote:What difference does it make where the guns come from? This is like worrying about which countries ship narcotics into the us. If it doesn’t come from one place, it will come from another.

Sure why bother. Lawstt

I grew up in a red state where there were lots of guns and there is way, way, way more gun violence here than there, despite all of our laws

You.mean a res state fill of criminal gun dealers that don't give a rats *ss about knowingly selling to straw purchasers per the research cited above? Ol

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Anonymous wrote:DC: “But no longer is law enforcement seeing the majority of illegal firearms coming from Virginia. Since the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives began firearms examinations in place of D.C.’s Department of Forensic Sciences 10 months ago, Geldart said, they’ve recorded a change in the source.

“Right now, primarily what we’re seeing are guns that are coming in from Georgia and North Carolina. Those are the two primary areas, and, of course, we’re working with the ATF and they’re working with the states and all of that to see how we start to curb some of that,” Geldart said.
https://wtop.com/dc/2022/01/dcs-geldart-illegal-guns-coming-into-district-from-southern-states/

Baltimore: “More than 1,000 crime guns recovered in 2019 traced back to Virginia alone. Another 2,500-plus came from other jurisdictions, including Pennsylvania, the Carolinas, Georgia, West Virginia, and even as far away as Texas.”
https://www.baltimoremagazine.com/section/community/iron-pipeline-gun-violence-out-of-state-traffickers/

Effin red states. The hypocrisy of the GOP that loves to point out Democrat city crime rates while ironically, red states' inability to crack down on straw purchase trafficking contributes considerably to democratic city gun crime.

Effing blue criminals. The hypocrisy of the DNC.

Why are you here?

Did you not see the title of this board? It's "DC Urban Mons and Dads." It's not "Red State Yahoos and Gun Nuts."

Why do you feel compelled to come here and be an idiot? Do you think we are missing something? Do you think we haven't heard the crap you come here and parrot from FOX News, Daily Caller and all the other far right mouthpieces? Because we have already heard it all. Do you think we don't think about your point of view? We do, and we still disagree. Do you think you're convincing any of us to change our minds? You aren't.

And who cares what you think?
These are not Republican voters committing these crimes in DC.
These are your fellow Democrats.
Facts matter except to fools like you.
Do you think I believe I can change your mind?
I dont. But, I do like to point out the obvious that completely goes right past you.
And its fun for me to do so!

What keeps going right past YOU is the FACT that if Republican voters passed sensible, responsible gun laws, there would be a whole lot less gun crime - not just in DC but EVERYWHERE IN THE US because it also happens in red states too - and when you look at the per-capita rates some of the reddest counties are even worse than DC for gun deaths. Is it fun for you to be embarrassed and proven wrong? Because, you just were.

Democrat cities in red states are where all the gun crimes are committed by Democrat criminals.
Nice try at gas lighting.
Go back to watching your Reid Out.
I have a no fear whatsoever of being robbed or car jacked when I walk out my front door and you cannot truthfully say the same thing.

They buy their guns from republican gun nut sellers who don't care about straw purchases. You cant have one without the other

If you are referring to gun shows, only 2% of gun crimes can be traced to purchases at gun shows. Fact.
1st, how about having your Democrat prosecutors do their jobs and send your Democrat criminals to jail for long prison sentences?

No, I'm referring to gun sellers in red states and the criminals there who can buy guns in bulk and traffic them without repercussions. So how about Red state representatives actually pass laws to curtail straw purchases (clearly blue state laws WORK or our criminals wouldn't have to turn 100s of miles away for guns, no?) and red state police and prosecuters do their job to investigate and crack down on straw purchases.

Plentiful research that shows that a good chunk of gun sellers are willing to sell knowingly to a potential straw purchaser or willfully ignore signs of a straw purchaser. Interesting how you turn a blind eye to those criminals.

Straw purchasers contribute to gun crime everywhere, why don't red states bother to crack down on them better?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2937134/

"Twenty percent of the licensed firearm retailers in our study population agreed to assist a potential handgun buyer with a transaction that had many attributes of an illegal surrogate or “straw” purchase. Others, while saying no, offered the buyer concrete assistance in completing a purchase they appeared to understand was against the law. In multivariate analysis, pawnbrokers were more than six times as likely as gun dealers to give a positive response."

https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/9/2/147

Most dealers were willing to sell a handgun regardless of the end user (self: 87.5%; gift: 70.8%; “need”: 52.5%). Multivariate analyses indicate that dealers in the Midwest, South, and West were more willing to sell than those in the Northeast (adjusted odds ratio (AOR) = 21.30, 18.74, and 8.93, respectively) and that willingness to sell is lower when the sale would be illegal, that is, under the “need” condition (AOR = 0.20)

So sure, perhaps we need DC to file more lawsuits like this, repeatedly. We know that GOP states don't give a flying hoot about what their gun sellers do.

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/16/nyregion/16guns.html

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Anonymous wrote:DC: “But no longer is law enforcement seeing the majority of illegal firearms coming from Virginia. Since the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives began firearms examinations in place of D.C.’s Department of Forensic Sciences 10 months ago, Geldart said, they’ve recorded a change in the source.

“Right now, primarily what we’re seeing are guns that are coming in from Georgia and North Carolina. Those are the two primary areas, and, of course, we’re working with the ATF and they’re working with the states and all of that to see how we start to curb some of that,” Geldart said.
https://wtop.com/dc/2022/01/dcs-geldart-illegal-guns-coming-into-district-from-southern-states/

Baltimore: “More than 1,000 crime guns recovered in 2019 traced back to Virginia alone. Another 2,500-plus came from other jurisdictions, including Pennsylvania, the Carolinas, Georgia, West Virginia, and even as far away as Texas.”
https://www.baltimoremagazine.com/section/community/iron-pipeline-gun-violence-out-of-state-traffickers/

Effin red states. The hypocrisy of the GOP that loves to point out Democrat city crime rates while ironically, red states' inability to crack down on straw purchase trafficking contributes considerably to democratic city gun crime.

Effing blue criminals. The hypocrisy of the DNC.

Why are you here?

Did you not see the title of this board? It's "DC Urban Mons and Dads." It's not "Red State Yahoos and Gun Nuts."

Why do you feel compelled to come here and be an idiot? Do you think we are missing something? Do you think we haven't heard the crap you come here and parrot from FOX News, Daily Caller and all the other far right mouthpieces? Because we have already heard it all. Do you think we don't think about your point of view? We do, and we still disagree. Do you think you're convincing any of us to change our minds? You aren't.

And who cares what you think?
These are not Republican voters committing these crimes in DC.
These are your fellow Democrats.
Facts matter except to fools like you.
Do you think I believe I can change your mind?
I dont. But, I do like to point out the obvious that completely goes right past you.
And its fun for me to do so!

What keeps going right past YOU is the FACT that if Republican voters passed sensible, responsible gun laws, there would be a whole lot less gun crime - not just in DC but EVERYWHERE IN THE US because it also happens in red states too - and when you look at the per-capita rates some of the reddest counties are even worse than DC for gun deaths. Is it fun for you to be embarrassed and proven wrong? Because, you just were.

Democrat cities in red states are where all the gun crimes are committed by Democrat criminals.
Nice try at gas lighting.
Go back to watching your Reid Out.
I have a no fear whatsoever of being robbed or car jacked when I walk out my front door and you cannot truthfully say the same thing.

They buy their guns from republican gun nut sellers who don't care about straw purchases. You cant have one without the other

If you are referring to gun shows, only 2% of gun crimes can be traced to purchases at gun shows. Fact.
1st, how about having your Democrat prosecutors do their jobs and send your Democrat criminals to jail for long prison sentences?

No, I'm referring to gun sellers in red states and the criminals there who can buy guns in bulk and traffic them without repercussions. So how about Red state representatives actually pass laws to curtail straw purchases (clearly blue state laws WORK or our criminals wouldn't have to turn 100s of miles away for guns, no?) and red state police and prosecuters do their job to investigate and crack down on straw purchases.

Plentiful research that shows that a good chunk of gun sellers are willing to sell knowingly to a potential straw purchaser or willfully ignore signs of a straw purchaser. Interesting how you turn a blind eye to those criminals.

Straw purchasers contribute to gun crime everywhere, why don't red states bother to crack down on them better?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2937134/

"Twenty percent of the licensed firearm retailers in our study population agreed to assist a potential handgun buyer with a transaction that had many attributes of an illegal surrogate or “straw” purchase. Others, while saying no, offered the buyer concrete assistance in completing a purchase they appeared to understand was against the law. In multivariate analysis, pawnbrokers were more than six times as likely as gun dealers to give a positive response."

https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/9/2/147

Most dealers were willing to sell a handgun regardless of the end user (self: 87.5%; gift: 70.8%; “need”: 52.5%). Multivariate analyses indicate that dealers in the Midwest, South, and West were more willing to sell than those in the Northeast (adjusted odds ratio (AOR) = 21.30, 18.74, and 8.93, respectively) and that willingness to sell is lower when the sale would be illegal, that is, under the “need” condition (AOR = 0.20)

So sure, perhaps we need DC to file more lawsuits like this, repeatedly. We know that GOP states don't give a flying hoot about what their gun sellers do.

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/16/nyregion/16guns.html

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Your criminals. You own it.

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Anonymous wrote:DC: “But no longer is law enforcement seeing the majority of illegal firearms coming from Virginia. Since the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives began firearms examinations in place of D.C.’s Department of Forensic Sciences 10 months ago, Geldart said, they’ve recorded a change in the source.

“Right now, primarily what we’re seeing are guns that are coming in from Georgia and North Carolina. Those are the two primary areas, and, of course, we’re working with the ATF and they’re working with the states and all of that to see how we start to curb some of that,” Geldart said.
https://wtop.com/dc/2022/01/dcs-geldart-illegal-guns-coming-into-district-from-southern-states/

Baltimore: “More than 1,000 crime guns recovered in 2019 traced back to Virginia alone. Another 2,500-plus came from other jurisdictions, including Pennsylvania, the Carolinas, Georgia, West Virginia, and even as far away as Texas.”
https://www.baltimoremagazine.com/section/community/iron-pipeline-gun-violence-out-of-state-traffickers/

Effin red states. The hypocrisy of the GOP that loves to point out Democrat city crime rates while ironically, red states' inability to crack down on straw purchase trafficking contributes considerably to democratic city gun crime.

Effing blue criminals. The hypocrisy of the DNC.

Why are you here?

Did you not see the title of this board? It's "DC Urban Mons and Dads." It's not "Red State Yahoos and Gun Nuts."

Why do you feel compelled to come here and be an idiot? Do you think we are missing something? Do you think we haven't heard the crap you come here and parrot from FOX News, Daily Caller and all the other far right mouthpieces? Because we have already heard it all. Do you think we don't think about your point of view? We do, and we still disagree. Do you think you're convincing any of us to change our minds? You aren't.

And who cares what you think?
These are not Republican voters committing these crimes in DC.
These are your fellow Democrats.
Facts matter except to fools like you.
Do you think I believe I can change your mind?
I dont. But, I do like to point out the obvious that completely goes right past you.
And its fun for me to do so!

What keeps going right past YOU is the FACT that if Republican voters passed sensible, responsible gun laws, there would be a whole lot less gun crime - not just in DC but EVERYWHERE IN THE US because it also happens in red states too - and when you look at the per-capita rates some of the reddest counties are even worse than DC for gun deaths. Is it fun for you to be embarrassed and proven wrong? Because, you just were.

Democrat cities in red states are where all the gun crimes are committed by Democrat criminals.
Nice try at gas lighting.
Go back to watching your Reid Out.
I have a no fear whatsoever of being robbed or car jacked when I walk out my front door and you cannot truthfully say the same thing.

They buy their guns from republican gun nut sellers who don't care about straw purchases. You cant have one without the other

If you are referring to gun shows, only 2% of gun crimes can be traced to purchases at gun shows. Fact.
1st, how about having your Democrat prosecutors do their jobs and send your Democrat criminals to jail for long prison sentences?

No, I'm referring to gun sellers in red states and the criminals there who can buy guns in bulk and traffic them without repercussions. So how about Red state representatives actually pass laws to curtail straw purchases (clearly blue state laws WORK or our criminals wouldn't have to turn 100s of miles away for guns, no?) and red state police and prosecuters do their job to investigate and crack down on straw purchases.

Plentiful research that shows that a good chunk of gun sellers are willing to sell knowingly to a potential straw purchaser or willfully ignore signs of a straw purchaser. Interesting how you turn a blind eye to those criminals.

Straw purchasers contribute to gun crime everywhere, why don't red states bother to crack down on them better?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2937134/

"Twenty percent of the licensed firearm retailers in our study population agreed to assist a potential handgun buyer with a transaction that had many attributes of an illegal surrogate or “straw” purchase. Others, while saying no, offered the buyer concrete assistance in completing a purchase they appeared to understand was against the law. In multivariate analysis, pawnbrokers were more than six times as likely as gun dealers to give a positive response."

https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/9/2/147

Most dealers were willing to sell a handgun regardless of the end user (self: 87.5%; gift: 70.8%; “need”: 52.5%). Multivariate analyses indicate that dealers in the Midwest, South, and West were more willing to sell than those in the Northeast (adjusted odds ratio (AOR) = 21.30, 18.74, and 8.93, respectively) and that willingness to sell is lower when the sale would be illegal, that is, under the “need” condition (AOR = 0.20)

So sure, perhaps we need DC to file more lawsuits like this, repeatedly. We know that GOP states don't give a flying hoot about what their gun sellers do.

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/16/nyregion/16guns.html

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Your criminals. You own it.

It's fair to ask why red states don't own their criminals when their criminals affect me personally hearing gunshots from my house. Drive by gang knifings aren't as likely to impact me personally. It's especially fair to ask when red state GOP ignores criminals in their own states to rant about criminals in blue states while their criminals supply our criminals.

Once again. Why do our criminals have to source their guns from 100s of miles away? Oh, it's because gun laws work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What difference does it make where the guns come from? This is like worrying about which countries ship narcotics into the us. If it doesn’t come from one place, it will come from another.

Actually law enforcement focuses quite a lot on the up the chain narcotics dealers because they know that's where the real impact is made, not the run of the mill corner drug seller. So yes we should have the same approach with regard to gun trafficking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What difference does it make where the guns come from? This is like worrying about which countries ship narcotics into the us. If it doesn’t come from one place, it will come from another.

Actually law enforcement focuses quite a lot on the up the chain narcotics dealers because they know that's where the real impact is made, not the run of the mill corner drug seller. So yes we should have the same approach with regard to gun trafficking.

Yeah we’re totally going to stamp out guns just like we’ve stamped out heroin. Correct me if I’m wrong, but is there anywhere in the United States where heroin is legal?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What difference does it make where the guns come from? This is like worrying about which countries ship narcotics into the us. If it doesn’t come from one place, it will come from another.

Sure why bother. Lawstt

I grew up in a red state where there were lots of guns and there is way, way, way more gun violence here than there, despite all of our laws

More gun violence here overall, because there are a lot more people here than there are in the far more sparsely populated red area you came from. But go back and look at the numbers on a per capita basis and you'll find that many red areas with lax gun laws have even more gun violence than DC does.

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Anonymous wrote:What difference does it make where the guns come from? This is like worrying about which countries ship narcotics into the us. If it doesn’t come from one place, it will come from another.

Because the weakest link in the chain is where everything breaks. And your red states with the weakest laws are where the majority of criminal guns come from.

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Anonymous wrote:What difference does it make where the guns come from? This is like worrying about which countries ship narcotics into the us. If it doesn’t come from one place, it will come from another.

Actually law enforcement focuses quite a lot on the up the chain narcotics dealers because they know that's where the real impact is made, not the run of the mill corner drug seller. So yes we should have the same approach with regard to gun trafficking.

Yeah we’re totally going to stamp out guns just like we’ve stamped out heroin. Correct me if I’m wrong, but is there anywhere in the United States where heroin is legal?

So you are saying qe shouldn't go after heroin importers?