Frost wins Science Bowl

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Anonymous wrote:This makes me dread DC going to Blair. Are all the parents like this?

I personally think they dismantle Blair and keep all the uber-smart kids in their home schools where they can still flourish.

Great idea! Keep all the magnet seats in the boundary!

No, I meant there shouldn't be any magnet seats. Everyone goes to their home school, and schools do their groupings. It would be interesting to see the data after that.

I absolutely agree. Bussing these kids alone is ridiculous and a waste of money, resources, and the environment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This makes me dread DC going to Blair. Are all the parents like this?

I personally think they dismantle Blair and keep all the uber-smart kids in their home schools where they can still flourish.

Sure at Frost, there's clearly a sizable cohort of high-achievers, so the magnet doesn't matter, but at many schools, that's not the case. The magnets provide a strong cohort for many kids who don't happen to live in the bounds of such a school. Frost's success shows that the county's policy to focus on outliers is working since these kids are doing great at their home school.

Agree schools like Frost don't need the magnet. This also frees up more seats for others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Check out the mathcounts state qualifier rank, you'll know the quality of this year's TPMS students. We are just low-key and don't want to brag.

What were the schools of the top MathCounts students?

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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations to Frost. TPMS is not the same after they introduced the Magnet Lottery.

The 80% lottery isn't going to do them any favors, but the current 8th grade was selected before the pandemic before the lottery.

The admission criteria for the current 8th grade was already loosened with no cogat test

NO IT WASN’T!!!! Can you stop saying this, please. Current 8th graders took the Cogat in Fall 2019 for admission in 2020.

Yes, the county eliminated the CogAT in 2020 because its owner wouldn't let them administer it online at the height of the pandemic. Although they could've reinstated it since then, finding out what they've learned over the past few years will be interesting. Perhaps, they can get by without it. It's not like there aren't enough standardized tests already. I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't reveal anything new. However, reinstating teacher recs wouldn't be such a bad thing...

No, the current 8 graders took the Cogat in fall 2019 when schools were still open and Covid wasn’t even in the area. The results came out late winter/early spring of 2020. The current 7th and 6th graders did not take a cogat test.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congratulations to Frost. TPMS is not the same after they introduced the Magnet Lottery.

The 80% lottery isn't going to do them any favors, but the current 8th grade was selected before the pandemic before the lottery.

The admission criteria for the current 8th grade was already loosened with no cogat test

NO IT WASN’T!!!! Can you stop saying this, please. Current 8th graders took the Cogat in Fall 2019 for admission in 2020.

Yes, the county eliminated the CogAT in 2020 because its owner wouldn't let them administer it online at the height of the pandemic. Although they could've reinstated it since then, finding out what they've learned over the past few years will be interesting. Perhaps, they can get by without it. It's not like there aren't enough standardized tests already. I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't reveal anything new. However, reinstating teacher recs wouldn't be such a bad thing...

No, the current 8 graders took the Cogat in fall 2019 when schools were still open and Covid wasn’t even in the area. The results came out late winter/early spring of 2020. The current 7th and 6th graders did not take a cogat test.

Yes, I'm agreeing with you. They eliminated it after the current 8th graders took it
.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Check out the mathcounts state qualifier rank, you'll know the quality of this year's TPMS students. We are just low-key and don't want to brag.

What were the schools of the top MathCounts students?

FYI, among the top 20 qualifiers, 10 are from TPMS, 3 from Roberto Clemente, 3 from RF, 2 from Hoover, 1 from CJ and 1 from Kingsview. Among the top 10, 5 are from TPMS, 0 from RF. In case someone doesn't know, each MS can send no more than 12 players. That says about the quality of the 8th grader of TPMS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congratulations to Frost. TPMS is not the same after they introduced the Magnet Lottery.

The 80% lottery isn't going to do them any favors, but the current 8th grade was selected before the pandemic before the lottery.

The admission criteria for the current 8th grade was already loosened with no cogat test

NO IT WASN’T!!!! Can you stop saying this, please. Current 8th graders took the Cogat in Fall 2019 for admission in 2020.

Yes, the county eliminated the CogAT in 2020 because its owner wouldn't let them administer it online at the height of the pandemic. Although they could've reinstated it since then, finding out what they've learned over the past few years will be interesting. Perhaps, they can get by without it. It's not like there aren't enough standardized tests already. I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't reveal anything new. However, reinstating teacher recs wouldn't be such a bad thing...

Disagree with teacher recs. They already have enough bias from teachers by using report card grades. Why should a socially mature, well-behaved student get any more advantages than they already have over a 2e complicated student with higher test scores?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congratulations to Frost. TPMS is not the same after they introduced the Magnet Lottery.

The 80% lottery isn't going to do them any favors, but the current 8th grade was selected before the pandemic before the lottery.

The admission criteria for the current 8th grade was already loosened with no cogat test

NO IT WASN’T!!!! Can you stop saying this, please. Current 8th graders took the Cogat in Fall 2019 for admission in 2020.

Yes, the county eliminated the CogAT in 2020 because its owner wouldn't let them administer it online at the height of the pandemic. Although they could've reinstated it since then, finding out what they've learned over the past few years will be interesting. Perhaps, they can get by without it. It's not like there aren't enough standardized tests already. I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't reveal anything new. However, reinstating teacher recs wouldn't be such a bad thing...

Disagree with teacher recs. They already have enough bias from teachers by using report card grades. Why should a socially mature, well-behaved student get any more advantages than they already have over a 2e complicated student with higher test scores?

Because of grade inflation it isn't always obvious who the standout students are and there are ways to offset for bias.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This makes me dread DC going to Blair. Are all the parents like this?

I personally think they dismantle Blair and keep all the uber-smart kids in their home schools where they can still flourish.

Sure at Frost, there's clearly a sizable cohort of high-achievers, so the magnet doesn't matter, but at many schools, that's not the case. The magnets provide a strong cohort for many kids who don't happen to live in the bounds of such a school. Frost's success shows that the county's policy to focus on outliers is working since these kids are doing great at their home school.

Agree schools like Frost don't need the magnet. This also frees up more seats for others.

It's clear from Frost's victories with the Science Bowl that the county made a good choice by keeping this sufficiently large high-achieving cohort together rather than sending many to the magnet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Check out the mathcounts state qualifier rank, you'll know the quality of this year's TPMS students. We are just low-key and don't want to brag.

What were the schools of the top MathCounts students?

FYI, among the top 20 qualifiers, 10 are from TPMS, 3 from Roberto Clemente, 3 from RF, 2 from Hoover, 1 from CJ and 1 from Kingsview. Among the top 10, 5 are from TPMS, 0 from RF. In case someone doesn't know, each MS can send no more than 12 players. That says about the quality of the 8th grader of TPMS.

Wow!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LOL. Anytime Frost beats TPMS on an academic competition, its boosters come on DCUM and blow the horns, as if they have won the World Cup.
I guess when you beat the big dog, you have got to let everyone know.

-Neutral observer

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congratulations to Frost. TPMS is not the same after they introduced the Magnet Lottery.

The 80% lottery isn't going to do them any favors, but the current 8th grade was selected before the pandemic before the lottery.

The admission criteria for the current 8th grade was already loosened with no cogat test

NO IT WASN’T!!!! Can you stop saying this, please. Current 8th graders took the Cogat in Fall 2019 for admission in 2020.

Yes, the county eliminated the CogAT in 2020 because its owner wouldn't let them administer it online at the height of the pandemic. Although they could've reinstated it since then, finding out what they've learned over the past few years will be interesting. Perhaps, they can get by without it. It's not like there aren't enough standardized tests already. I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't reveal anything new. However, reinstating teacher recs wouldn't be such a bad thing...

Disagree with teacher recs. They already have enough bias from teachers by using report card grades. Why should a socially mature, well-behaved student get any more advantages than they already have over a 2e complicated student with higher test scores?

Because of grade inflation it isn't always obvious who the standout students are and there are ways to offset for bias.

I would disagree about this, as well. I don’t think every student who is gifted is a “standout” student. The magnets are intended for students who learn best at an accelerated pace and with enriched depth. It’s not really always about the performance results in class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This makes me dread DC going to Blair. Are all the parents like this?

I personally think they dismantle Blair and keep all the uber-smart kids in their home schools where they can still flourish.

Sure at Frost, there's clearly a sizable cohort of high-achievers, so the magnet doesn't matter, but at many schools, that's not the case. The magnets provide a strong cohort for many kids who don't happen to live in the bounds of such a school. Frost's success shows that the county's policy to focus on outliers is working since these kids are doing great at their home school.

Agree schools like Frost don't need the magnet. This also frees up more seats for others.

It's clear from Frost's victories with the Science Bowl that the county made a good choice by keeping this sufficiently large high-achieving cohort together rather than sending many to the magnet.

The selection changes seem to be working well. Maybe they can keep them together at Wootton too in order to free up more space @Blair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congratulations to Frost. TPMS is not the same after they introduced the Magnet Lottery.

The 80% lottery isn't going to do them any favors, but the current 8th grade was selected before the pandemic before the lottery.

The admission criteria for the current 8th grade was already loosened with no cogat test

NO IT WASN’T!!!! Can you stop saying this, please. Current 8th graders took the Cogat in Fall 2019 for admission in 2020.

Yes, the county eliminated the CogAT in 2020 because its owner wouldn't let them administer it online at the height of the pandemic. Although they could've reinstated it since then, finding out what they've learned over the past few years will be interesting. Perhaps, they can get by without it. It's not like there aren't enough standardized tests already. I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't reveal anything new. However, reinstating teacher recs wouldn't be such a bad thing...

Disagree with teacher recs. They already have enough bias from teachers by using report card grades. Why should a socially mature, well-behaved student get any more advantages than they already have over a 2e complicated student with higher test scores?

Because of grade inflation it isn't always obvious who the standout students are and there are ways to offset for bias.

I would disagree about this, as well. I don’t think every student who is gifted is a “standout” student. The magnets are intended for students who learn best at an accelerated pace and with enriched depth. It’s not really always about the performance results in class.

Well, there has to be some metric, or we may as well have a lottery. The problem today is 30% of the class has a perfect 4.0, but in years past it would've been more like 2-3 students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This makes me dread DC going to Blair. Are all the parents like this?

I personally think they dismantle Blair and keep all the uber-smart kids in their home schools where they can still flourish.

Sure at Frost, there's clearly a sizable cohort of high-achievers, so the magnet doesn't matter, but at many schools, that's not the case. The magnets provide a strong cohort for many kids who don't happen to live in the bounds of such a school. Frost's success shows that the county's policy to focus on outliers is working since these kids are doing great at their home school.

Agree schools like Frost don't need the magnet. This also frees up more seats for others.

It's clear from Frost's victories with the Science Bowl that the county made a good choice by keeping this sufficiently large high-achieving cohort together rather than sending many to the magnet.

The selection changes seem to be working well. Maybe they can keep them together at Wootton too in order to free up more space @Blair.

I think that's a great idea.