Biden to propose 5.2% federal pay increase, largest in pay raise in 43 years

[Anonymous]

Cool, will make up for 2022. Now if we can just get retro for 2008-2021, plus 2023.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When are we going to stop throwing money at glorified secretaries (government employees). Anybody can enter a few lines into a spreadsheet, write a memo, and send an e-mail. Feds have no special skills and should not be compensated as if they do

Why do you think people fight so hard and jump through a million hurdles to be paid less than private industry just to be a fed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone remind me how this would or wouldn’t impact capped employees.

The administration has proposed an average 5.2% increase. Whatever is passed (probably in an appropriation bill late this year) will be divided into some amount, say 4.2%, to the base, and then the residual, in this case 1% average, would be reserved for locality. The pay scale cap would likely go up by the base amount, and the locality part wouldn’t matter. Hence, places with very high COL like San Francisco, New York, DC the pay scale will compress by a percent or so near the top. If San Francisco were to get, say, a 1.6% locality adjustment, all the amounts go up by that base (4.2% in my example) and then all the non-capped amounts increase a further 1.6% above the 2023 table, so that the highest non-capped step in 2023 might then be capped in 2024.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Obama was such a miser. By far the stingiest POTUS in the last 50 years.

2010: 2%
2011: 0%
2012: 0%
2013: 0%
2014: 1%
2015: 1%
2016: 1.6%
2017: 2.1%

https://www.fedsmith.com/2022/12/01/how-federal-employee-pay-raises-determined/

Sure, he was miserly during the Great Recession

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When are we going to stop throwing money at glorified secretaries (government employees). Anybody can enter a few lines into a spreadsheet, write a memo, and send an e-mail. Feds have no special skills and should not be compensated as if they do

Sounds like you are bitter from being rejected by the feds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When are we going to stop throwing money at glorified secretaries (government employees). Anybody can enter a few lines into a spreadsheet, write a memo, and send an e-mail. Feds have no special skills and should not be compensated as if they do

Sounds like you are bitter from being rejected by the feds.

I find it shocking how many companies are funded through federal dollars and none of these people understand how the money shows up in those accounts, how their social security checks are sent, how the national parks remain clean, how their mail is delivered, how their bank deposits are insured, how their roads remain drivable, how their passports are issued……

Those bitter imbeciles were rejected for a reason.

[Anonymous]

How does this help inflation

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When are we going to stop throwing money at glorified secretaries (government employees). Anybody can enter a few lines into a spreadsheet, write a memo, and send an e-mail. Feds have no special skills and should not be compensated as if they do

Sounds like you are bitter from being rejected by the feds.

I find it shocking how many companies are funded through federal dollars and none of these people understand how the money shows up in those accounts, how their social security checks are sent, how the national parks remain clean, how their mail is delivered, how their bank deposits are insured, how their roads remain drivable, how their passports are issued……

Those bitter imbeciles were rejected for a reason.

Agree. Anti-Feds want to live in a country with dirty air, dirty water, elderly poor people sitting on the side of the road (or moving in with them), no public transportation, terrible roads, an uneducated populace, Russia or some other foreign adversary launching missile strikes, terrorist incidents on a daily basis, no airport screening, planes flying wherever and whenever they want, the power grid going down on a regular basis, dams overflowing and flooding entire communities, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How does this help inflation

Go away

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When are we going to stop throwing money at glorified secretaries (government employees). Anybody can enter a few lines into a spreadsheet, write a memo, and send an e-mail. Feds have no special skills and should not be compensated as if they do

Sounds like you are bitter from being rejected by the feds.

I find it shocking how many companies are funded through federal dollars and none of these people understand how the money shows up in those accounts, how their social security checks are sent, how the national parks remain clean, how their mail is delivered, how their bank deposits are insured, how their roads remain drivable, how their passports are issued……

Those bitter imbeciles were rejected for a reason.

Agree. Anti-Feds want to live in a country with dirty air, dirty water, elderly poor people sitting on the side of the road (or moving in with them), no public transportation, terrible roads, an uneducated populace, Russia or some other foreign adversary launching missile strikes, terrorist incidents on a daily basis, no airport screening, planes flying wherever and whenever they want, the power grid going down on a regular basis, dams overflowing and flooding entire communities, etc.

They always say “the government people do NOTHING. It’s all just contractors”.

And yet, there is a plethora of work that is “inherently governmental” that they don’t even know exists.

I’m in IT. I started as a Developer. Now, I do a host of “inherently governmental” tasks that most contractors are completely unaware exists, and yet is integral to how work is accomplished.

I once had a contractor message me after I left and say “wow, I never realized how much you did until you left and they didn’t do it well.”

Right. If you’re totally unaware of the work your Federal POC does, it doesn’t mean they do nothing. It means that maybe they do nothing…..or maybe you just don’t know what they do because you’ve never had to deal with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When are we going to stop throwing money at glorified secretaries (government employees). Anybody can enter a few lines into a spreadsheet, write a memo, and send an e-mail. Feds have no special skills and should not be compensated as if they do

Sounds like you are bitter from being rejected by the feds.

I find it shocking how many companies are funded through federal dollars and none of these people understand how the money shows up in those accounts, how their social security checks are sent, how the national parks remain clean, how their mail is delivered, how their bank deposits are insured, how their roads remain drivable, how their passports are issued……

Those bitter imbeciles were rejected for a reason.

Agree. Anti-Feds want to live in a country with dirty air, dirty water, elderly poor people sitting on the side of the road (or moving in with them), no public transportation, terrible roads, an uneducated populace, Russia or some other foreign adversary launching missile strikes, terrorist incidents on a daily basis, no airport screening, planes flying wherever and whenever they want, the power grid going down on a regular basis, dams overflowing and flooding entire communities, etc.

I disagree with this. Instead I think they know how much waste there is. Any government employee can attest to that. I work hard for my agency but know many slackers who wouldn’t be employed if it were the private sector.

[Anonymous]

As someone in hiring, trust me you should want fed pay raised. Right now the people running your government can’t afford to live anywhere near their offices, and new hires don’t put up with low pay just for the honor of serving their nation. They google cost of housing and childcare in dmv and nope right on out of the process. Starting pay grade at my org is the same it was when I started 23 years ago. Usg is in for a rough few decades in hiring given inflation coupled with low pay

[Anonymous]

I’m assuming the raise — sny raise — won’t be happening due to the debt ceiling deal, but I’m not sure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When are we going to stop throwing money at glorified secretaries (government employees). Anybody can enter a few lines into a spreadsheet, write a memo, and send an e-mail. Feds have no special skills and should not be compensated as if they do

Sounds like you are bitter from being rejected by the feds.

I find it shocking how many companies are funded through federal dollars and none of these people understand how the money shows up in those accounts, how their social security checks are sent, how the national parks remain clean, how their mail is delivered, how their bank deposits are insured, how their roads remain drivable, how their passports are issued……

Those bitter imbeciles were rejected for a reason.

Agree. Anti-Feds want to live in a country with dirty air, dirty water, elderly poor people sitting on the side of the road (or moving in with them), no public transportation, terrible roads, an uneducated populace, Russia or some other foreign adversary launching missile strikes, terrorist incidents on a daily basis, no airport screening, planes flying wherever and whenever they want, the power grid going down on a regular basis, dams overflowing and flooding entire communities, etc.

I disagree with this. Instead I think they know how much waste there is. Any government employee can attest to that. I work hard for my agency but know many slackers who wouldn’t be employed if it were the private sector.

If you are worried about waste, perhaps you should start with the military and defense contractors. They are vacuuming up money that could be spent on any number of things that could improve our quality of life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m assuming the raise — sny raise — won’t be happening due to the debt ceiling deal, but I’m not sure.

Maybe but fed comp is a small portion of the overall budget. The raise might go down but I bet we get something.