Escuela Key

[Anonymous]

ArlNow just ran a story on this...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do I find out what the child wrote on the wall?

My understanding is that she wrote a note on the wall in the bathroom threatening to kill another student.

The parent wrote a post on AEM about the incident, and that is what they said happened. What is actually said is not PP's business unless she is the parent.

Looks like it's Arlnow's business now.

[Anonymous]

APS not looking good on this one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do I find out what the child wrote on the wall?

My understanding is that she wrote a note on the wall in the bathroom threatening to kill another student.

The parent wrote a post on AEM about the incident, and that is what they said happened. What is actually said is not PP's business unless she is the parent.

It's everyone's business that a 3rd grader made a gun threat and that the school didn't call the police right away. Do you really think only the one targeted kid was at risk? Third graders aren't exactly great shots and to my understanding they didn't search school grounds and didn't immediately know who made the threat to detain them. The whole school was at risk.

This, 100%. Unless there’s a psychiatric evaluation of the threat maker saying otherwise, you cannot assume anything anymore.

There have been numerous elementary aged children shot - almost all by accident - inside their schools with guns someone brought in during the last 10+ years.

The case in Newport News stands out with the age and that everyone (teachers, parents, lawyers) seems in agreement that it was fully intentional.

Please, APS, don’t just assume “it can’t happen here”. Take all threats very seriously first. Then sort it can be sorted out with the help of professionals. Don’t sweep under the rug.

[Anonymous]

Tonight’s school board meeting should be interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tonight’s school board meeting should be interesting.

Yes, it should, but most of the “interesting” items will be discussed in the closed meeting ahead of time.

[Anonymous]

I'm following this closely. My child (early elementary school) was the target of a threat of gun violence at another APS school earlier this month. In this case, the threat was verbal (not written) and the other child did not specifically say they had access to a gun, but did say they would bring one to school. I am lukewarm on the school's response, but they certainly did not share any disciplinary actions they were taking and they definitely did not call the police. Based on this incident at Key, it appears that APS elementary schools are wholly unequipped to deal with threats of violence - and unfortunately they need to be. What can be done to make sure the school board is addressing this system wide, and what can we demand of our schools to ensure they are taking the appropriate steps, every single time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do I find out what the child wrote on the wall?

My understanding is that she wrote a note on the wall in the bathroom threatening to kill another student.

The parent wrote a post on AEM about the incident, and that is what they said happened. What is actually said is not PP's business unless she is the parent.

It's everyone's business that a 3rd grader made a gun threat and that the school didn't call the police right away. Do you really think only the one targeted kid was at risk? Third graders aren't exactly great shots and to my understanding they didn't search school grounds and didn't immediately know who made the threat to detain them. The whole school was at risk.

This is PP that you’re referring to. If you follow the discussion thread, you will see I was responding to the poster demanding to know exactly what was said on the wall. She already knew that a threat had been made. In no way am I suggesting that it’s not any parents business that something like this occurred or that APS botched it.

So many parents want every single detail of what goes on whether it’s disciplinary behavior or things that really aren’t their business. You don’t have a right to know every single detail.

[Anonymous]

This has been APS's worst week in a while.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do I find out what the child wrote on the wall?

My understanding is that she wrote a note on the wall in the bathroom threatening to kill another student.

The parent wrote a post on AEM about the incident, and that is what they said happened. What is actually said is not PP's business unless she is the parent.

It's everyone's business that a 3rd grader made a gun threat and that the school didn't call the police right away. Do you really think only the one targeted kid was at risk? Third graders aren't exactly great shots and to my understanding they didn't search school grounds and didn't immediately know who made the threat to detain them. The whole school was at risk.

This, 100%. Unless there’s a psychiatric evaluation of the threat maker saying otherwise, you cannot assume anything anymore.

There have been numerous elementary aged children shot - almost all by accident - inside their schools with guns someone brought in during the last 10+ years.

The case in Newport News stands out with the age and that everyone (teachers, parents, lawyers) seems in agreement that it was fully intentional.

Please, APS, don’t just assume “it can’t happen here”. Take all threats very seriously first. Then sort it can be sorted out with the help of professionals. Don’t sweep under the rug.

But if the threat-maker is removed from campus, then no one is at risk. Not the child who was threatened and not the rest of the class or the teachers or anyone else. I don’t know whether the threat-maker was removed, but that seems like the appropriate action, not a lockdown. Locking down a school WITH THE CHILD WHO MADE THE THREAT INSIDE THE SCHOOL does nothing to protect whomever is in a class with that child when the lockdown goes into effect. I don’t think the parents who are saying there should have been a lockdown are thinking about this rationally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do I find out what the child wrote on the wall?

My understanding is that she wrote a note on the wall in the bathroom threatening to kill another student.

The parent wrote a post on AEM about the incident, and that is what they said happened. What is actually said is not PP's business unless she is the parent.

It's everyone's business that a 3rd grader made a gun threat and that the school didn't call the police right away. Do you really think only the one targeted kid was at risk? Third graders aren't exactly great shots and to my understanding they didn't search school grounds and didn't immediately know who made the threat to detain them. The whole school was at risk.

This, 100%. Unless there’s a psychiatric evaluation of the threat maker saying otherwise, you cannot assume anything anymore.

There have been numerous elementary aged children shot - almost all by accident - inside their schools with guns someone brought in during the last 10+ years.

The case in Newport News stands out with the age and that everyone (teachers, parents, lawyers) seems in agreement that it was fully intentional.

Please, APS, don’t just assume “it can’t happen here”. Take all threats very seriously first. Then sort it can be sorted out with the help of professionals. Don’t sweep under the rug.

But if the threat-maker is removed from campus, then no one is at risk. Not the child who was threatened and not the rest of the class or the teachers or anyone else. I don’t know whether the threat-maker was removed, but that seems like the appropriate action, not a lockdown. Locking down a school WITH THE CHILD WHO MADE THE THREAT INSIDE THE SCHOOL does nothing to protect whomever is in a class with that child when the lockdown goes into effect. I don’t think the parents who are saying there should have been a lockdown are thinking about this rationally.

I’m the PP you’re quoting and I absolutely agree with you. I didn’t mention a lockdown. I think the parents calling for a lockdown are envisioning a situation where it is unclear who made a threat etc.

[Anonymous]

The rot starts at the top. APS has been a disaster since Duran took over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do I find out what the child wrote on the wall?

My understanding is that she wrote a note on the wall in the bathroom threatening to kill another student.

The parent wrote a post on AEM about the incident, and that is what they said happened. What is actually said is not PP's business unless she is the parent.

It's everyone's business that a 3rd grader made a gun threat and that the school didn't call the police right away. Do you really think only the one targeted kid was at risk? Third graders aren't exactly great shots and to my understanding they didn't search school grounds and didn't immediately know who made the threat to detain them. The whole school was at risk.

This, 100%. Unless there’s a psychiatric evaluation of the threat maker saying otherwise, you cannot assume anything anymore.

There have been numerous elementary aged children shot - almost all by accident - inside their schools with guns someone brought in during the last 10+ years.

The case in Newport News stands out with the age and that everyone (teachers, parents, lawyers) seems in agreement that it was fully intentional.

Please, APS, don’t just assume “it can’t happen here”. Take all threats very seriously first. Then sort it can be sorted out with the help of professionals. Don’t sweep under the rug.

But if the threat-maker is removed from campus, then no one is at risk. Not the child who was threatened and not the rest of the class or the teachers or anyone else. I don’t know whether the threat-maker was removed, but that seems like the appropriate action, not a lockdown. Locking down a school WITH THE CHILD WHO MADE THE THREAT INSIDE THE SCHOOL does nothing to protect whomever is in a class with that child when the lockdown goes into effect. I don’t think the parents who are saying there should have been a lockdown are thinking about this rationally.

I’m the PP you’re quoting and I absolutely agree with you. I didn’t mention a lockdown. I think the parents calling for a lockdown are envisioning a situation where it is unclear who made a threat etc.

That’s true. You didn’t say lockdown. The moms on Mona were all about a lockdown, and the Arlnow article talks about it, but you did not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The rot starts at the top. APS has been a disaster since Duran took over.

FWIW Murphy was a disaster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Duran has done NOTHING except remove a beloved leader that the kids and parents trust. He certainly has not shown up to support Key or provide leadership in a time of crisis. As a parent of Key 3rd and 5th graders, I cannot emphasize enough how much the children, the teachers (especially our 3rd grade teachers), the staff, and parents need stability. The assignment of an individual who has clearly failed - not once but TWICE - as an administrator, speaks volumes about Duran and Graves inability to lead with intention and their strong desire to push this under the rug. We have not received any messages from Duran, not one. That’s not leadership. It’s hiding behind APS staff who just want to pass the buck onto the principle. Where was APS’s threat assessment team? Why isn’t anyone asking THAT question? APS admitted they were contacted immediately - why isn’t anyone questioning their decision to not lock down the school OR remove my child from a trailer where an active threat of gun violence was made towards another student? Bottom line - we need our principle back.

what are APS's threat assessment procedures? can parents see them? maybe they are crap.