anyone else strongly consider leaving due to garbage US healthcare?

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Anonymous wrote:I am from Korea - it has a good national healthcare system, but I am pretty sure insurance won’t cover a sleep study.

But how much would a sleep study cost out of pocket in Korea vs the USA.?

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Anonymous wrote:No. I got a job with excellent health insurance. I can basically go anywhere and just pay a $30-40 copay.

But if for some reason you couldn't work or you lost that job, then what? Aren't you angry that we're held hostage to employers because of health care?

NP Making us have to have jobs to get healthcare doesn't seem good for businesses. Probably more people would start a business if they didn't immediately have to come up with $12-15K just for their health insurance.

[Anonymous]

There are very few countries that can provide the standard of care that most Americans are used to receiving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For all of you "strongley considering" leaving the US due to healthcare, "democracy dying," etc. please go. Renounce your citzenship and make room for people who want to be here. People are literally dying as they trek thousands of miles to the southern border because they are so desparate to live in the US. Is the US perfect? Absolutely not but it's pretty great comparatively! Your incessant whining and empty threats of leaving is offensive and tone deaf to people who have actual real problems like starvation, being sex trafficed, etc.

How's all that gun freedom taste? So.much.freedom. .

Lol....it only costs a 100 dead in Vegas and classrooms of kids their lives.

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Anonymous wrote:Op where are you thinking of going?

Singapore, Japan, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Thailand, Germany, UK.....hell, it don't matter if you even have insurance. You can afford to pay out of pocket abroad because it is nowhere near as stupidly expensive as the US.

And it is not so stupidly expensive because the government said, wait, we're not paying for all this bs.

As opposed to Obamacare, which essentially said let's pay all kind of expensive bs for all!!!! Let's not do any thinking at all!!! Let's keep funding soda and junk food so our unhealthy citizens can become even less healthy!!!!

Other countries do not have the grotesquely stupid system the US has filled with layers and layers and layers of middle men with their hand in the cookie jar getting money before you get healthcare. Pharmacy benefit managers, group purchase organizations, insurance companies, hospitals......the list goes on and on and on of middle men jacking up prices for no reason so that in the end a hospital is charging you $200 for an aspirin pill or a syringe and the insurance says no and saddles the patient with the cost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op where are you thinking of going?

Singapore, Japan, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Thailand, Germany, UK.....hell, it don't matter if you even have insurance. You can afford to pay out of pocket abroad because it is nowhere near as stupidly expensive as the US.

And it is not so stupidly expensive because the government said, wait, we're not paying for all this bs.

As opposed to Obamacare, which essentially said let's pay all kind of expensive bs for all!!!! Let's not do any thinking at all!!! Let's keep funding soda and junk food so our unhealthy citizens can become even less healthy!!!!

Other countries do not have the grotesquely stupid system the US has filled with layers and layers and layers of middle men with their hand in the cookie jar getting money before you get healthcare. Pharmacy benefit managers, group purchase organizations, insurance companies, hospitals......the list goes on and on and on of middle men jacking up prices for no reason so that in the end a hospital is charging you $200 for an aspirin pill or a syringe and the insurance says no and saddles the patient with the cost.

Exactly.

Obamacare was supposed to fix this but didn't even try.

It was just a joke. And a very expensive one.

[Anonymous]

You should move to Canada. So much better where people are dying while in waiting rooms in ER, due to insanely long wait times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are very few countries that can provide the standard of care that most Americans are used to receiving.

Amen to that. And I lived in those "super health care" countries. Like Norway and Canada, it is horrible in Canada right now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For all of you "strongley considering" leaving the US due to healthcare, "democracy dying," etc. please go. Renounce your citzenship and make room for people who want to be here. People are literally dying as they trek thousands of miles to the southern border because they are so desparate to live in the US. Is the US perfect? Absolutely not but it's pretty great comparatively! Your incessant whining and empty threats of leaving is offensive and tone deaf to people who have actual real problems like starvation, being sex trafficed, etc.

How's all that gun freedom taste? So.much.freedom. .

Lol....it only costs a 100 dead in Vegas and classrooms of kids their lives.

Great comeback regarding healthcare??? I said nothing about guns. I am for strict gun control fwiw.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op where are you thinking of going?

Singapore, Japan, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Thailand, Germany, UK.....hell, it don't matter if you even have insurance. You can afford to pay out of pocket abroad because it is nowhere near as stupidly expensive as the US.

And it is not so stupidly expensive because the government said, wait, we're not paying for all this bs.

As opposed to Obamacare, which essentially said let's pay all kind of expensive bs for all!!!! Let's not do any thinking at all!!! Let's keep funding soda and junk food so our unhealthy citizens can become even less healthy!!!!

Other countries do not have the grotesquely stupid system the US has filled with layers and layers and layers of middle men with their hand in the cookie jar getting money before you get healthcare. Pharmacy benefit managers, group purchase organizations, insurance companies, hospitals......the list goes on and on and on of middle men jacking up prices for no reason so that in the end a hospital is charging you $200 for an aspirin pill or a syringe and the insurance says no and saddles the patient with the cost.

Exactly.

Obamacare was supposed to fix this but didn't even try.

It was just a joke. And a very expensive one.

ACA tried too hard to compromise with Republicans who wanted to keep $$$ for insurance companies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op where are you thinking of going?

Singapore, Japan, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Thailand, Germany, UK.....hell, it don't matter if you even have insurance. You can afford to pay out of pocket abroad because it is nowhere near as stupidly expensive as the US.

Have you looked at Canada's wait times? Plus, contrary to popular belief everything is not covered. Yes, you can go to the doctor or hospital and not get a horrendous bill. But you wait to get in, and a lot of peripheral care is not covered unless you have decent private insurance. There's a reason Canadians are willing to go to the U.S. for some things. I know a 20 year old woman who is having multiple seizures per week. She has an 8 - 10 week wait for an MRI. Your sleep study would not be covered, and you would wait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You should move to Canada. So much better where people are dying while in waiting rooms in ER, due to insanely long wait times.

Riiiiiiiight

As opposed to the US where people are dying because they can't afford insulin.

[Anonymous]

I have amazing healthcare here and I want as few other people to have it as possible so they aren't competing for services and I can get seen quickly and efficiently. The last thing I need is to move to Europe where I have to wait for six months while the doctor takes a look at janitors and taxi drivers before me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You should move to Canada. So much better where people are dying while in waiting rooms in ER, due to insanely long wait times.

Riiiiiiiight

As opposed to the US where people are dying because they can't afford insulin.

This has been partially resolved at least for those on Medicare who now have a $35 cap on insulin co-pays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You should move to Canada. So much better where people are dying while in waiting rooms in ER, due to insanely long wait times.

Riiiiiiiight

As opposed to the US where people are dying because they can't afford insulin.

This has been partially resolved at least for those on Medicare who now have a $35 cap on insulin co-pays.

Many younger people with diabetes aren't on Medicare.