anyone else strongly consider leaving due to garbage US healthcare?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Earlier this month, democracy literally died in the US.

So yes, we are planing to move overseas as soon as possible.

Likely to Europe, if we can find any possible way.

+1

Republicans are going to burn the country to the ground.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think getting timely access to specialty care like a sleep study could be really hard in countries with government-provided medical care.

I used to be on a discussion board for people with a medical condition my child has and was really shocked by how long the Brits and especially the Canadians had to wait for appointments with a specialist. Like any specialist, not just a really good one at a prominent clinic who you go to when your local specialist hasn't helped.

I had a medical condition and also came across a lot of UK sites with others dealing with the same illness. It was pretty obvious that I had much easier access to testing and procedures. It almost became hard to converse about it with Brits because they couldn’t even get their heads around that I was dictating the timing of certain procedures. I am very glad I was treated here in the US.

[Anonymous]

Some Americans have very good health insurance and some Americans have crappy insurance. The people making all of the decisions regarding health insurance in America are almost exclusively in the first group. They are insulated from the problems.
I've accepted that there is zero likelihood for improvement for those in the second group.

[Anonymous]

Op where are you thinking of going?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Earlier this month, democracy literally died in the US.

So yes, we are planing to move overseas as soon as possible.

Likely to Europe, if we can find any possible way.

+1

Republicans are going to burn the country to the ground.

Oh wait I thought PP was talking about all those misplaced classified materials by Biden, found in FIVE separate locations so far?

It's the end of our democracy when the President is above our rules. God save King Joe!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think getting timely access to specialty care like a sleep study could be really hard in countries with government-provided medical care.

I used to be on a discussion board for people with a medical condition my child has and was really shocked by how long the Brits and especially the Canadians had to wait for appointments with a specialist. Like any specialist, not just a really good one at a prominent clinic who you go to when your local specialist hasn't helped.

I had a medical condition and also came across a lot of UK sites with others dealing with the same illness. It was pretty obvious that I had much easier access to testing and procedures. It almost became hard to converse about it with Brits because they couldn’t even get their heads around that I was dictating the timing of certain procedures. I am very glad I was treated here in the US.

I think you would have a similar trouble conversing with an American who did not have insurance or whose insurance didn't cover the condition. The difference would be that they would have the same 5 year wait as the Brits and Canadians, but with an additional $10,000 cost every time they needed some kind of help with symptoms. The US has wonderful healthcare... if you're rich or your company springs for it and you're working fulltime. I'm a PP who's looking to move and I want more of a safety net even if it decreases my current standard of care. It's undoubtedly a scary trade-off either way, though, honestly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. I got a job with excellent health insurance. I can basically go anywhere and just pay a $30-40 copay.

But if for some reason you couldn't work or you lost that job, then what? Aren't you angry that we're held hostage to employers because of health care?

How often do you lose your job?! And if you did, then you'd get on your spouse's insurance. Or get another job. Or pay COBRA to keep your current insurance until you have a new job.

A lot of what Americans consider routine healthcare, like sleep studies, acne medicine, therapy, cosmetic dermatology, brand name drugs, ADHD meds, just don't exist and aren't covered in other countries. Best friend just gave birth in Canada and didn't have a doctor attend her birth. She was med/high risk too so she was surprised that doctors don't attend births.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op where are you thinking of going?

Singapore, Japan, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Thailand, Germany, UK.....hell, it don't matter if you even have insurance. You can afford to pay out of pocket abroad because it is nowhere near as stupidly expensive as the US.

[Anonymous]

Seeing as I can't even get my kids in for either an emergency sick visit within 3 days or schedule a well visit at our factory pediatrician office, I don't see how it's worse overseas. That and we constantly have to change providers because they stop taking our health insurance, which is a pretty big company.

[Anonymous]

I am from Korea - it has a good national healthcare system, but I am pretty sure insurance won’t cover a sleep study.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op where are you thinking of going?

Singapore, Japan, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Thailand, Germany, UK.....hell, it don't matter if you even have insurance. You can afford to pay out of pocket abroad because it is nowhere near as stupidly expensive as the US.

And it is not so stupidly expensive because the government said, wait, we're not paying for all this bs.

As opposed to Obamacare, which essentially said let's pay all kind of expensive bs for all!!!! Let's not do any thinking at all!!! Let's keep funding soda and junk food so our unhealthy citizens can become even less healthy!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No.

I don't have garbage healthcare. I have very good healthcare.

Change insurance companies. My DH's sleep study was covered. I'm not saying that our insurance company is amazing but they do answer the phone.

Workers do not have control over what their employers offer.

All the workplaces I have been at have offered a number of plans to choose from but I can imagine a situation where some do not offer a choice. Haven't experienced that firsthand, though.

[Anonymous]

Yes I feel your pain. There are excellent options overseas. We get our dental work done just over the border from Yuma AZ for about a third the price, even with the cost of flying there and staying over 2 days.

Moving is a big endeavor and once you're on Medicare, with a good, carefully chosen supplement, almost everything is covered, so the option to come back then is available.

I have ACA subsized coverage but still had to pay $3K in bills for a breast biopsy and it's criminal that I didn't know the pricing before it happened.

If you do stay here, do your research before every procedure when possible and avoid doing anything at a facility that is owned or run by a hospital system. Sadly they are buying up everything so it is harder to avoid them but they REALLY jack up the prices. My biopsy was in a building on the hospital campus and I got screwed...

[Anonymous]

Look into India. Bengaluru (Bangalore, specifically). My father has received excellent, world class health care there for pennies on the dollar compared to what he received in the US. He former lived in the US for 50 years and retired back home due to needing all around care at home. He’s had a brain shunt put in, a brain stent and had multiple mris. paying out of pocket is no problem. He also received a miraculous treatment that was not approved by the fda until last year, but has been in use in India for decades.

[Anonymous]

For all of you "strongley considering" leaving the US due to healthcare, "democracy dying," etc. please go. Renounce your citzenship and make room for people who want to be here. People are literally dying as they trek thousands of miles to the southern border because they are so desparate to live in the US. Is the US perfect? Absolutely not but it's pretty great comparatively! Your incessant whining and empty threats of leaving is offensive and tone deaf to people who have actual real problems like starvation, being sex trafficed, etc.