Is Yale losing its luster?

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/travel/52-places-travel-2023.html

For the New Haven haters out there

Hahahaha, really? You crack me up.

Take it to the NYT. I didn’t write the piece

Must be pity

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Anonymous wrote:I think the idea of Ivy League or elite schools is falling away. Those schools were only elite because of the students (which then attracted the good faculty, received the donations from successful careers, etc) and now that they’re essentially moving towards a lottery system they won’t be elite anymore.

Keep telling yourself that if you want to nurture that grievance some more. I am sure people were saying the same thing when the Ivies started admitted Jews.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, New Haven isn't exactly the best college town to live in.

Actually it’s become a pretty great place in recent years, definitely having a renaissance with a big boost in the arts specifically. Lots of great restaurants but not as expensive as NYC. This is not the new haven of the 80s.

Better but not that much better. Lots of run down and even abandoned homes. Visited last year.

Depends which side you approach the campus from!

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, New Haven isn't exactly the best college town to live in.

Actually it’s become a pretty great place in recent years, definitely having a renaissance with a big boost in the arts specifically. Lots of great restaurants but not as expensive as NYC. This is not the new haven of the 80s.

Better but not that much better. Lots of run down and even abandoned homes. Visited last year.

Depends which side you approach the campus from!

That in itself is scary

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/travel/52-places-travel-2023.html

For the New Haven haters out there

Did you read the comments that follow? They are sometimes more informative than the article. For example: New Haven? Only if your only other option is Bridgeport.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/travel/52-places-travel-2023.html

For the New Haven haters out there

Interesting. It's worth a visit and everything in that piece is not to do with Yale. But also take a look at the campus if you go. It is impressive and the Yale museums are free.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/travel/52-places-travel-2023.html

For the New Haven haters out there

Hahahaha, really? You crack me up.

Take it to the NYT. I didn’t write the piece

Must be pity

Undoubtedly. They are known for that.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, New Haven isn't exactly the best college town to live in.

The area surrounding Yale is a blighted neighborhood.

You need to get out more if you call that blighted. You are in a bubble.

Worst Ivy neighborhood

What are you even talking about? You can have rural environment, sleepy suburban or urban. You better not be wandering around a clueless rube in Philly, New Haven, NY or Providence.

I never felt unsafe walking around the Upper West Side and Morningside Heights as a grad student at Columbia because there were always so many people around. The only rules of thumb were making sure you're on the #1 train north of 96th Street and stay out of Morningside Park unless you're part of a group with at least a dozen people.

I get the impression New Haven is dodgier, perhaps because there aren't as many people around at night in some areas.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not losing its luster but I think paradoxically for a lot of us with high stats kids it’s become so impossible to get into that it and most of the Ivies are not even part of the conversation like they were when I was a teen (and I went to an Ivy if never get into today). My kid realizes ED is the best chance of getting into a reach so the group of schools without ED are off the table. And he doesn’t want to spend his ED chip on any other Ivy so it’s not do much lack of luster but there’s a group of kids who have just kind of moved on from that subset of schools.

This is a great approach, and one that basically every high stat but non-hooked student from a major metropolitan area should take these days: avoid the SCEA schools like the plague. Most of these kids think, well, I’ll buy the lottery ticket and have a 5-10% chance of admission. But for the vast majority, their real chances of admission are 0%, topping out at 1%. And once rejected or deferred, they have not only lost out on an ED opportunity but not even applied EA to any private schools (which SCEA, unlike ED, prevents). Then the kids are stuck with RD only, and often end up going to a school a notch or two below what they had anticipated.

Better to ED to a school where you have a real chance of getting in…

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, New Haven isn't exactly the best college town to live in.

The area surrounding Yale is a blighted neighborhood.

You need to get out more if you call that blighted. You are in a bubble.

Worst Ivy neighborhood

What are you even talking about? You can have rural environment, sleepy suburban or urban. You better not be wandering around a clueless rube in Philly, New Haven, NY or Providence.

I never felt unsafe walking around the Upper West Side and Morningside Heights as a grad student at Columbia because there were always so many people around. The only rules of thumb were making sure you're on the #1 train north of 96th Street and stay out of Morningside Park unless you're part of a group with at least a dozen people.

I get the impression New Haven is dodgier, perhaps because there aren't as many people around at night in some areas.

If you can handle Morningside heights, you can handle new Haven. Relax

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Yale was the most popular Ivy to apply to at our private this year, so I would say no.

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Anonymous wrote:I think with the varsity blues scandal and the Harvard sat stats per race that were released, a lot of the general public is starting to realize that ivies don’t have the best and brightest, but a lot of “hooked” kids.

Yale has had hooked kids for a long time, like other Ivies, but it's the academic qualifications of the unhooked kids that has taken a nose dive over the past 20 years.

There was a period when the Ivies embraced the idea of a meritocracy, and the best and the brightest both gravitated towards and typically ended up at Ivies. Then Yale and its peers pivoted towards promoting diversity over merit.

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Not sure why anyone would ED Yale unless hooked. It’s never been meritocratic school.

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Anonymous wrote:Yale was the most popular Ivy to apply to at our private this year, so I would say no.

At our private, it was only the legacies and recruited athletes.

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Anonymous wrote:I think with the varsity blues scandal and the Harvard sat stats per race that were released, a lot of the general public is starting to realize that ivies don’t have the best and brightest, but a lot of “hooked” kids.

Yale has had hooked kids for a long time, like other Ivies, but it's the academic qualifications of the unhooked kids that has taken a nose dive over the past 20 years.

There was a period when the Ivies embraced the idea of a meritocracy, and the best and the brightest both gravitated towards and typically ended up at Ivies. Then Yale and its peers pivoted towards promoting diversity over merit.

True, but they also want their cake and eat it too. They still salivate over the big donors and recruited athletes.