Is Yale losing its luster?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think with the varsity blues scandal and the Harvard sat stats per race that were released, a lot of the general public is starting to realize that ivies don’t have the best and brightest, but a lot of “hooked” kids.

Yale has had hooked kids for a long time, like other Ivies, but it's the academic qualifications of the unhooked kids that has taken a nose dive over the past 20 years.

There was a period when the Ivies embraced the idea of a meritocracy, and the best and the brightest both gravitated towards and typically ended up at Ivies. Then Yale and its peers pivoted towards promoting diversity over merit.

You are nuts. These kids are intimidating. Half of them could probably go directly into impressive jobs tomorrow and do well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think with the varsity blues scandal and the Harvard sat stats per race that were released, a lot of the general public is starting to realize that ivies don’t have the best and brightest, but a lot of “hooked” kids.

Yale has had hooked kids for a long time, like other Ivies, but it's the academic qualifications of the unhooked kids that has taken a nose dive over the past 20 years.

There was a period when the Ivies embraced the idea of a meritocracy, and the best and the brightest both gravitated towards and typically ended up at Ivies. Then Yale and its peers pivoted towards promoting diversity over merit.

How on earth are you in a position to assess the “academic qualifications of unhooked kids over the last 20 years” are you the school GC?

[Anonymous]

^^^. This is true for many top schools

[Anonymous]

I graduated from Yale and while it’s much nicer now with revitalized Broadway area and fancier stores, new haven is still a dump and safety is a concern. Prefer my children go to peer institutions because of this and some other reasons. My oldest chose a different top 5 college and I hope my other child does as well. He is into STEM and much prefers Stanford, Princeton and MIT (if lucky enough to get into one). But I still have fond memories of Yale. Go Bulldogs!

[Anonymous]

Is Yale losing its luster? Yes, at least according to this article:

https://www.insidehighered.com/blogs/higher-ed-gamma/yale-decline

[Anonymous]

My mom grew up in New Haven, across the street from Yale. Her father went there and her Irish grandfather was a stonelayer that helped build the walls around the campus.

New Haven was ROUGH in the 80s during the crack epidemic and for a great time after. I have relatives that were New Haven PDs and Firemen/first responders. I have a very skewed view of Yale.

Even the number of druggies and people that died on the lawn around New Haven on a visit about 5-7 years ago.

I feel the same way about Columbia.

I wouldn't send my kids there even if they happened to be accepted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My mom grew up in New Haven, across the street from Yale. Her father went there and her Irish grandfather was a stonelayer that helped build the walls around the campus.

New Haven was ROUGH in the 80s during the crack epidemic and for a great time after. I have relatives that were New Haven PDs and Firemen/first responders. I have a very skewed view of Yale.

Even the number of druggies and people that died on the lawn around New Haven on a visit about 5-7 years ago.

I feel the same way about Columbia.

I wouldn't send my kids there even if they happened to be accepted.

Seriously sketchy people in the train station in New Haven.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/travel/52-places-travel-2023.html

For the New Haven haters out there

Did you read the comments that follow? They are sometimes more informative than the article. For example: New Haven? Only if your only other option is Bridgeport.

I have to smile, as a father from Bridgeport and a mother from New Haven. There was some serious crime. We stopped visiting for some time in my childhood.

I remember we were all scared like crap at my grandfather's burial in Bridgeport back in the 90s and there was gunfire at my grandfather's outdoor burial in New Haven. Duck and run.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is Yale losing its luster? Yes, at least according to this article:

https://www.insidehighered.com/blogs/higher-ed-gamma/yale-decline

That is an interesting article. Yale may have way overspent but they have increased their enrollment by 15 percent since 2016 when they added the new colleges.

[Anonymous]

Yale is just another example of a rich, hypocritical institution placing its own importance, closed elite standing, and wealth above those of society.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yale is just another example of a rich, hypocritical institution placing its own importance, closed elite standing, and wealth above those of society.

Where do you want these kids to get an education exactly? College costs a fortune and a person want to access the best they can..for their cash....where do you suggest they pursue their higher education?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think with the varsity blues scandal and the Harvard sat stats per race that were released, a lot of the general public is starting to realize that ivies don’t have the best and brightest, but a lot of “hooked” kids.

Yale has had hooked kids for a long time, like other Ivies, but it's the academic qualifications of the unhooked kids that has taken a nose dive over the past 20 years.

There was a period when the Ivies embraced the idea of a meritocracy, and the best and the brightest both gravitated towards and typically ended up at Ivies. Then Yale and its peers pivoted towards promoting diversity over merit.

You are nuts. These kids are intimidating. Half of them could probably go directly into impressive jobs tomorrow and do well.

Yes, the kids who attended 20 years go were intimidating. Definitely not so today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think with the varsity blues scandal and the Harvard sat stats per race that were released, a lot of the general public is starting to realize that ivies don’t have the best and brightest, but a lot of “hooked” kids.

Yale has had hooked kids for a long time, like other Ivies, but it's the academic qualifications of the unhooked kids that has taken a nose dive over the past 20 years.

There was a period when the Ivies embraced the idea of a meritocracy, and the best and the brightest both gravitated towards and typically ended up at Ivies. Then Yale and its peers pivoted towards promoting diversity over merit.

You are nuts. These kids are intimidating. Half of them could probably go directly into impressive jobs tomorrow and do well.

Yes, the kids who attended 20 years go were intimidating. Definitely not so today.

Let us guess..you must be a genius that graduated 20 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I graduated from Yale and while it’s much nicer now with revitalized Broadway area and fancier stores, new haven is still a dump and safety is a concern. Prefer my children go to peer institutions because of this and some other reasons. My oldest chose a different top 5 college and I hope my other child does as well. He is into STEM and much prefers Stanford, Princeton and MIT (if lucky enough to get into one). But I still have fond memories of Yale. Go Bulldogs!

Well that’s the great thing about there being something for everybody right? I mean I went to Stanford and I’m not going to quibble with the quality of the education but I would take NH over PA any day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yale is just another example of a rich, hypocritical institution placing its own importance, closed elite standing, and wealth above those of society.

Where do you want these kids to get an education exactly? College costs a fortune and a person want to access the best they can..for their cash....where do you suggest they pursue their higher education?

For starters, it would be nice to do some serious thinking and introspection before deciding on a college instead of blindly following the crowd or USNWR