Elementary School allows Satanic Church sponsored club to meet along with Christian Club

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Christian and I have no problem with this. I think atheistic Satanists are wrong theologically, but I also think that about Muslims, Pagans, and plenty of other Christians. If we're going to let groups use public spaces, it's going to include lots of people, whose beliefs I think are wrong.

I think of those others you’ve mentioned as “different”, not “wrong”. Literally worshipping evil counts as “wrong” in my book. I get that the school is backed into a corner based on their desire to provide space for the Christian club, but no, I would not be okay with that.

This Organization and Satanic Temple are not teaching children to be Satanist. They are using the word Satanic in their name to make a point about separation of Church and State, and to provide an alternative to the Christian Club.

What do they do in their weekly after school meetings, if atheism isn’t a system if thought as pp keeps posting?

It is our goal to provide a fun,
intellectually stimulating, and
non-proselytizing alternative to
current religious after school clubs
being offered in our public schools,
which aim to indoctrinate children into
their religious view.
We are not offering any materials or
lectures to your child about Satanism;
instead, our focus will be on free
inquiry and rationalism, bolstering
scientific understandings of the
natural world, and nurturing your
child’s already awesome ability to be
curious about the wonders around
them.

https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/after-school-satan

So they’re tearing down other religions, got it. If it’s just another nature or physics club, why not call it that.

then they will fit right in with the religious clubs.

You’ve obviously never been in a religious context. I don’t remember a single time anybody tore down another religion. A religious club is going to be more about praying and maybe a little scripture and lots of soup kitchens and other charitable deeds. You might have to buy stinky candles to support a homeless shelter attend out-of-tune caroling at the local old folks’ home.

The Satanist club? Who knows.

You're hilarious.

OK, tell us from your own experience what goes on in an elementary school religious club.

Also, tell us what the Satanists do every week.

Not the PP you are asking, but what does it matter what the specific clubs are doing? The Christian club was approved, and so was the Satan club. Sauce for the goose, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Christian and I have no problem with this. I think atheistic Satanists are wrong theologically, but I also think that about Muslims, Pagans, and plenty of other Christians. If we're going to let groups use public spaces, it's going to include lots of people, whose beliefs I think are wrong.

I think of those others you’ve mentioned as “different”, not “wrong”. Literally worshipping evil counts as “wrong” in my book. I get that the school is backed into a corner based on their desire to provide space for the Christian club, but no, I would not be okay with that.

This Organization and Satanic Temple are not teaching children to be Satanist. They are using the word Satanic in their name to make a point about separation of Church and State, and to provide an alternative to the Christian Club.

What do they do in their weekly after school meetings, if atheism isn’t a system if thought as pp keeps posting?

It is our goal to provide a fun,
intellectually stimulating, and
non-proselytizing alternative to
current religious after school clubs
being offered in our public schools,
which aim to indoctrinate children into
their religious view.
We are not offering any materials or
lectures to your child about Satanism;
instead, our focus will be on free
inquiry and rationalism, bolstering
scientific understandings of the
natural world, and nurturing your
child’s already awesome ability to be
curious about the wonders around
them.

https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/after-school-satan

So they’re tearing down other religions, got it. If it’s just another nature or physics club, why not call it that.

then they will fit right in with the religious clubs.

You’ve obviously never been in a religious context. I don’t remember a single time anybody tore down another religion. A religious club is going to be more about praying and maybe a little scripture and lots of soup kitchens and other charitable deeds. You might have to buy stinky candles to support a homeless shelter attend out-of-tune caroling at the local old folks’ home.

The Satanist club? Who knows.

You're hilarious.

OK, tell us from your own experience what goes on in an elementary school religious club.

Also, tell us what the Satanists do every week.

Not the PP you are asking, but what does it matter what the specific clubs are doing? The Christian club was approved, and so was the Satan club. Sauce for the goose, etc.

I’m just curious. Atheism is the lack of belief, so there would seem to be no plan. If they’re doing Nature walks, why not call it that?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Christian and I have no problem with this. I think atheistic Satanists are wrong theologically, but I also think that about Muslims, Pagans, and plenty of other Christians. If we're going to let groups use public spaces, it's going to include lots of people, whose beliefs I think are wrong.

I think of those others you’ve mentioned as “different”, not “wrong”. Literally worshipping evil counts as “wrong” in my book. I get that the school is backed into a corner based on their desire to provide space for the Christian club, but no, I would not be okay with that.

This Organization and Satanic Temple are not teaching children to be Satanist. They are using the word Satanic in their name to make a point about separation of Church and State, and to provide an alternative to the Christian Club.

What do they do in their weekly after school meetings, if atheism isn’t a system if thought as pp keeps posting?

It is our goal to provide a fun,
intellectually stimulating, and
non-proselytizing alternative to
current religious after school clubs
being offered in our public schools,
which aim to indoctrinate children into
their religious view.
We are not offering any materials or
lectures to your child about Satanism;
instead, our focus will be on free
inquiry and rationalism, bolstering
scientific understandings of the
natural world, and nurturing your
child’s already awesome ability to be
curious about the wonders around
them.

https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/after-school-satan

So they’re tearing down other religions, got it. If it’s just another nature or physics club, why not call it that.

then they will fit right in with the religious clubs.

You’ve obviously never been in a religious context. I don’t remember a single time anybody tore down another religion. A religious club is going to be more about praying and maybe a little scripture and lots of soup kitchens and other charitable deeds. You might have to buy stinky candles to support a homeless shelter attend out-of-tune caroling at the local old folks’ home.

The Satanist club? Who knows.

You're hilarious.

OK, tell us from your own experience what goes on in an elementary school religious club.

Also, tell us what the Satanists do every week.

Not the PP you are asking, but what does it matter what the specific clubs are doing? The Christian club was approved, and so was the Satan club. Sauce for the goose, etc.

I’m just curious. Atheism is the lack of belief, so there would seem to be no plan. If they’re doing Nature walks, why not call it that?

Do you really need to ask? It’s to draw attention to the fact that we have enshrined separation of church and state in our constitution, something that many religious folk don’t like.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Christian and I have no problem with this. I think atheistic Satanists are wrong theologically, but I also think that about Muslims, Pagans, and plenty of other Christians. If we're going to let groups use public spaces, it's going to include lots of people, whose beliefs I think are wrong.

I think of those others you’ve mentioned as “different”, not “wrong”. Literally worshipping evil counts as “wrong” in my book. I get that the school is backed into a corner based on their desire to provide space for the Christian club, but no, I would not be okay with that.

This Organization and Satanic Temple are not teaching children to be Satanist. They are using the word Satanic in their name to make a point about separation of Church and State, and to provide an alternative to the Christian Club.

What do they do in their weekly after school meetings, if atheism isn’t a system if thought as pp keeps posting?

It is our goal to provide a fun,
intellectually stimulating, and
non-proselytizing alternative to
current religious after school clubs
being offered in our public schools,
which aim to indoctrinate children into
their religious view.
We are not offering any materials or
lectures to your child about Satanism;
instead, our focus will be on free
inquiry and rationalism, bolstering
scientific understandings of the
natural world, and nurturing your
child’s already awesome ability to be
curious about the wonders around
them.

https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/after-school-satan

So they’re tearing down other religions, got it. If it’s just another nature or physics club, why not call it that.

then they will fit right in with the religious clubs.

You’ve obviously never been in a religious context. I don’t remember a single time anybody tore down another religion. A religious club is going to be more about praying and maybe a little scripture and lots of soup kitchens and other charitable deeds. You might have to buy stinky candles to support a homeless shelter attend out-of-tune caroling at the local old folks’ home.

The Satanist club? Who knows.

You're hilarious.

OK, tell us from your own experience what goes on in an elementary school religious club.

Also, tell us what the Satanists do every week.

Not the PP you are asking, but what does it matter what the specific clubs are doing? The Christian club was approved, and so was the Satan club. Sauce for the goose, etc.

I’m just curious. Atheism is the lack of belief, so there would seem to be no plan. If they’re doing Nature walks, why not call it that?

Do you really need to ask? It’s to draw attention to the fact that we have enshrined separation of church and state in our constitution, something that many religious folk don’t like.

So the kids sit around and complain about religious folk for an hour every week?

[Anonymous]

If religious clubs do proselytize then should satanic clubs also “proselytize”?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Christian and I have no problem with this. I think atheistic Satanists are wrong theologically, but I also think that about Muslims, Pagans, and plenty of other Christians. If we're going to let groups use public spaces, it's going to include lots of people, whose beliefs I think are wrong.

I think of those others you’ve mentioned as “different”, not “wrong”. Literally worshipping evil counts as “wrong” in my book. I get that the school is backed into a corner based on their desire to provide space for the Christian club, but no, I would not be okay with that.

This Organization and Satanic Temple are not teaching children to be Satanist. They are using the word Satanic in their name to make a point about separation of Church and State, and to provide an alternative to the Christian Club.

What do they do in their weekly after school meetings, if atheism isn’t a system if thought as pp keeps posting?

It is our goal to provide a fun,
intellectually stimulating, and
non-proselytizing alternative to
current religious after school clubs
being offered in our public schools,
which aim to indoctrinate children into
their religious view.
We are not offering any materials or
lectures to your child about Satanism;
instead, our focus will be on free
inquiry and rationalism, bolstering
scientific understandings of the
natural world, and nurturing your
child’s already awesome ability to be
curious about the wonders around
them.

https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/after-school-satan

So they’re tearing down other religions, got it. If it’s just another nature or physics club, why not call it that.

then they will fit right in with the religious clubs.

You’ve obviously never been in a religious context. I don’t remember a single time anybody tore down another religion. A religious club is going to be more about praying and maybe a little scripture and lots of soup kitchens and other charitable deeds. You might have to buy stinky candles to support a homeless shelter attend out-of-tune caroling at the local old folks’ home.

The Satanist club? Who knows.

You're hilarious.

OK, tell us from your own experience what goes on in an elementary school religious club.

Also, tell us what the Satanists do every week.

Not the PP you are asking, but what does it matter what the specific clubs are doing? The Christian club was approved, and so was the Satan club. Sauce for the goose, etc.

I’m just curious. Atheism is the lack of belief, so there would seem to be no plan. If they’re doing Nature walks, why not call it that?

Do you really need to ask? It’s to draw attention to the fact that we have enshrined separation of church and state in our constitution, something that many religious folk don’t like.

So the kids sit around and complain about religious folk for an hour every week?

Again, I don’t know what is happening at either the Christian club or the satan club, and it seems nobody here knows either.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Christian and I have no problem with this. I think atheistic Satanists are wrong theologically, but I also think that about Muslims, Pagans, and plenty of other Christians. If we're going to let groups use public spaces, it's going to include lots of people, whose beliefs I think are wrong.

I think of those others you’ve mentioned as “different”, not “wrong”. Literally worshipping evil counts as “wrong” in my book. I get that the school is backed into a corner based on their desire to provide space for the Christian club, but no, I would not be okay with that.

This Organization and Satanic Temple are not teaching children to be Satanist. They are using the word Satanic in their name to make a point about separation of Church and State, and to provide an alternative to the Christian Club.

What do they do in their weekly after school meetings, if atheism isn’t a system if thought as pp keeps posting?

It is our goal to provide a fun,
intellectually stimulating, and
non-proselytizing alternative to
current religious after school clubs
being offered in our public schools,
which aim to indoctrinate children into
their religious view.
We are not offering any materials or
lectures to your child about Satanism;
instead, our focus will be on free
inquiry and rationalism, bolstering
scientific understandings of the
natural world, and nurturing your
child’s already awesome ability to be
curious about the wonders around
them.

https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/after-school-satan

So they’re tearing down other religions, got it. If it’s just another nature or physics club, why not call it that.

then they will fit right in with the religious clubs.

You’ve obviously never been in a religious context. I don’t remember a single time anybody tore down another religion. A religious club is going to be more about praying and maybe a little scripture and lots of soup kitchens and other charitable deeds. You might have to buy stinky candles to support a homeless shelter attend out-of-tune caroling at the local old folks’ home.

The Satanist club? Who knows.

You're hilarious.

OK, tell us from your own experience what goes on in an elementary school religious club.

Also, tell us what the Satanists do every week.

Not the PP you are asking, but what does it matter what the specific clubs are doing? The Christian club was approved, and so was the Satan club. Sauce for the goose, etc.

I’m just curious. Atheism is the lack of belief, so there would seem to be no plan. If they’re doing Nature walks, why not call it that?

Do you really need to ask? It’s to draw attention to the fact that we have enshrined separation of church and state in our constitution, something that many religious folk don’t like.

So the kids sit around and complain about religious folk for an hour every week?

They haven't even met yet, so ow would you know.

This is what they said they're about: "“We do not believe in a supernatural Satan as a symbol because legend has it that Satan was the first to start asking questions and was cast out of heaven for that reason,” ASSC’s June Everett said. As WTKR’s report points out, the club’s flyer insists it’s not looking to convert children into any sort of religion and only wants to encourage them to look at the world scientifically."

I'll take them at their word, not that "complaining about religious folk for an hour every week" would be all bad.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Christian and I have no problem with this. I think atheistic Satanists are wrong theologically, but I also think that about Muslims, Pagans, and plenty of other Christians. If we're going to let groups use public spaces, it's going to include lots of people, whose beliefs I think are wrong.

I think of those others you’ve mentioned as “different”, not “wrong”. Literally worshipping evil counts as “wrong” in my book. I get that the school is backed into a corner based on their desire to provide space for the Christian club, but no, I would not be okay with that.

This Organization and Satanic Temple are not teaching children to be Satanist. They are using the word Satanic in their name to make a point about separation of Church and State, and to provide an alternative to the Christian Club.

What do they do in their weekly after school meetings, if atheism isn’t a system if thought as pp keeps posting?

It is our goal to provide a fun,
intellectually stimulating, and
non-proselytizing alternative to
current religious after school clubs
being offered in our public schools,
which aim to indoctrinate children into
their religious view.
We are not offering any materials or
lectures to your child about Satanism;
instead, our focus will be on free
inquiry and rationalism, bolstering
scientific understandings of the
natural world, and nurturing your
child’s already awesome ability to be
curious about the wonders around
them.

https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/after-school-satan

So they’re tearing down other religions, got it. If it’s just another nature or physics club, why not call it that.

then they will fit right in with the religious clubs.

You’ve obviously never been in a religious context. I don’t remember a single time anybody tore down another religion. A religious club is going to be more about praying and maybe a little scripture and lots of soup kitchens and other charitable deeds. You might have to buy stinky candles to support a homeless shelter attend out-of-tune caroling at the local old folks’ home.

The Satanist club? Who knows.

You're hilarious.

OK, tell us from your own experience what goes on in an elementary school religious club.

Also, tell us what the Satanists do every week.

Not the PP you are asking, but what does it matter what the specific clubs are doing? The Christian club was approved, and so was the Satan club. Sauce for the goose, etc.

I’m just curious. Atheism is the lack of belief, so there would seem to be no plan. If they’re doing Nature walks, why not call it that?

Do you really need to ask? It’s to draw attention to the fact that we have enshrined separation of church and state in our constitution, something that many religious folk don’t like.

So the kids sit around and complain about religious folk for an hour every week?

They haven't even met yet, so ow would you know.

This is what they said they're about: "“We do not believe in a supernatural Satan as a symbol because legend has it that Satan was the first to start asking questions and was cast out of heaven for that reason,” ASSC’s June Everett said. As WTKR’s report points out, the club’s flyer insists it’s not looking to convert children into any sort of religion and only wants to encourage them to look at the world scientifically."

I'll take them at their word, not that "complaining about religious folk for an hour every week" would be all bad.

The line about “we don’t want to convert children into any sort of religion” seems pretty self-evident, not sure why they felt they had to mention that as part of the club’s purpose, but maybe they had to say something?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Christian and I have no problem with this. I think atheistic Satanists are wrong theologically, but I also think that about Muslims, Pagans, and plenty of other Christians. If we're going to let groups use public spaces, it's going to include lots of people, whose beliefs I think are wrong.

I think of those others you’ve mentioned as “different”, not “wrong”. Literally worshipping evil counts as “wrong” in my book. I get that the school is backed into a corner based on their desire to provide space for the Christian club, but no, I would not be okay with that.

This Organization and Satanic Temple are not teaching children to be Satanist. They are using the word Satanic in their name to make a point about separation of Church and State, and to provide an alternative to the Christian Club.

What do they do in their weekly after school meetings, if atheism isn’t a system if thought as pp keeps posting?

It is our goal to provide a fun,
intellectually stimulating, and
non-proselytizing alternative to
current religious after school clubs
being offered in our public schools,
which aim to indoctrinate children into
their religious view.
We are not offering any materials or
lectures to your child about Satanism;
instead, our focus will be on free
inquiry and rationalism, bolstering
scientific understandings of the
natural world, and nurturing your
child’s already awesome ability to be
curious about the wonders around
them.

https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/after-school-satan

So they’re tearing down other religions, got it. If it’s just another nature or physics club, why not call it that.

then they will fit right in with the religious clubs.

You’ve obviously never been in a religious context. I don’t remember a single time anybody tore down another religion. A religious club is going to be more about praying and maybe a little scripture and lots of soup kitchens and other charitable deeds. You might have to buy stinky candles to support a homeless shelter attend out-of-tune caroling at the local old folks’ home.

The Satanist club? Who knows.

You're hilarious.

OK, tell us from your own experience what goes on in an elementary school religious club.

Also, tell us what the Satanists do every week.

Not the PP you are asking, but what does it matter what the specific clubs are doing? The Christian club was approved, and so was the Satan club. Sauce for the goose, etc.

I’m just curious. Atheism is the lack of belief, so there would seem to be no plan. If they’re doing Nature walks, why not call it that?

Do you really need to ask? It’s to draw attention to the fact that we have enshrined separation of church and state in our constitution, something that many religious folk don’t like.

So the kids sit around and complain about religious folk for an hour every week?

They haven't even met yet, so ow would you know.

This is what they said they're about: "“We do not believe in a supernatural Satan as a symbol because legend has it that Satan was the first to start asking questions and was cast out of heaven for that reason,” ASSC’s June Everett said. As WTKR’s report points out, the club’s flyer insists it’s not looking to convert children into any sort of religion and only wants to encourage them to look at the world scientifically."

I'll take them at their word, not that "complaining about religious folk for an hour every week" would be all bad.

The line about “we don’t want to convert children into any sort of religion” seems pretty self-evident, not sure why they felt they had to mention that as part of the club’s purpose, but maybe they had to say something?

Based on the number of people here who think atheism is a religion, I think it’s not self-evident to all.

[Anonymous]

I’m a practicing Catholic and a public school teacher. I don’t think organized religion belongs in public schools. My understanding is that this organization promotes these clubs to make the point about needed separation of Church and State. Schools can avoid a Satanist club by not having any religious clubs.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Christian and I have no problem with this. I think atheistic Satanists are wrong theologically, but I also think that about Muslims, Pagans, and plenty of other Christians. If we're going to let groups use public spaces, it's going to include lots of people, whose beliefs I think are wrong.

I think of those others you’ve mentioned as “different”, not “wrong”. Literally worshipping evil counts as “wrong” in my book. I get that the school is backed into a corner based on their desire to provide space for the Christian club, but no, I would not be okay with that.

This Organization and Satanic Temple are not teaching children to be Satanist. They are using the word Satanic in their name to make a point about separation of Church and State, and to provide an alternative to the Christian Club.

What do they do in their weekly after school meetings, if atheism isn’t a system if thought as pp keeps posting?

It is our goal to provide a fun,
intellectually stimulating, and
non-proselytizing alternative to
current religious after school clubs
being offered in our public schools,
which aim to indoctrinate children into
their religious view.
We are not offering any materials or
lectures to your child about Satanism;
instead, our focus will be on free
inquiry and rationalism, bolstering
scientific understandings of the
natural world, and nurturing your
child’s already awesome ability to be
curious about the wonders around
them.

https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/after-school-satan

So they’re tearing down other religions, got it. If it’s just another nature or physics club, why not call it that.

then they will fit right in with the religious clubs.

You’ve obviously never been in a religious context. I don’t remember a single time anybody tore down another religion. A religious club is going to be more about praying and maybe a little scripture and lots of soup kitchens and other charitable deeds. You might have to buy stinky candles to support a homeless shelter attend out-of-tune caroling at the local old folks’ home.

The Satanist club? Who knows.

You're hilarious.

OK, tell us from your own experience what goes on in an elementary school religious club.

Also, tell us what the Satanists do every week.

Not the PP you are asking, but what does it matter what the specific clubs are doing? The Christian club was approved, and so was the Satan club. Sauce for the goose, etc.

I’m just curious. Atheism is the lack of belief, so there would seem to be no plan. If they’re doing Nature walks, why not call it that?

Do you really need to ask? It’s to draw attention to the fact that we have enshrined separation of church and state in our constitution, something that many religious folk don’t like.

So the kids sit around and complain about religious folk for an hour every week?

They haven't even met yet, so ow would you know.

This is what they said they're about: "“We do not believe in a supernatural Satan as a symbol because legend has it that Satan was the first to start asking questions and was cast out of heaven for that reason,” ASSC’s June Everett said. As WTKR’s report points out, the club’s flyer insists it’s not looking to convert children into any sort of religion and only wants to encourage them to look at the world scientifically."

I'll take them at their word, not that "complaining about religious folk for an hour every week" would be all bad.

The line about “we don’t want to convert children into any sort of religion” seems pretty self-evident, not sure why they felt they had to mention that as part of the club’s purpose, but maybe they had to say something?

Based on the number of people here who think atheism is a religion, I think it’s not self-evident to all.

Atheism has become a type of religion for some atheists.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Christian and I have no problem with this. I think atheistic Satanists are wrong theologically, but I also think that about Muslims, Pagans, and plenty of other Christians. If we're going to let groups use public spaces, it's going to include lots of people, whose beliefs I think are wrong.

I think of those others you’ve mentioned as “different”, not “wrong”. Literally worshipping evil counts as “wrong” in my book. I get that the school is backed into a corner based on their desire to provide space for the Christian club, but no, I would not be okay with that.

This Organization and Satanic Temple are not teaching children to be Satanist. They are using the word Satanic in their name to make a point about separation of Church and State, and to provide an alternative to the Christian Club.

What do they do in their weekly after school meetings, if atheism isn’t a system if thought as pp keeps posting?

It is our goal to provide a fun,
intellectually stimulating, and
non-proselytizing alternative to
current religious after school clubs
being offered in our public schools,
which aim to indoctrinate children into
their religious view.
We are not offering any materials or
lectures to your child about Satanism;
instead, our focus will be on free
inquiry and rationalism, bolstering
scientific understandings of the
natural world, and nurturing your
child’s already awesome ability to be
curious about the wonders around
them.

https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/after-school-satan

That's a different, although similar, organization.

I am not an atheist, but would absolutely sign my elementary school aged kids up for that. The name doesn't bother me, and I do think it is good to raise the question of whether we actually want people of any belief system to have access to our children on public school grounds for the purpose of proselytizing.

No it's not, this is the organization in Chesapeake

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Christian and I have no problem with this. I think atheistic Satanists are wrong theologically, but I also think that about Muslims, Pagans, and plenty of other Christians. If we're going to let groups use public spaces, it's going to include lots of people, whose beliefs I think are wrong.

I think of those others you’ve mentioned as “different”, not “wrong”. Literally worshipping evil counts as “wrong” in my book. I get that the school is backed into a corner based on their desire to provide space for the Christian club, but no, I would not be okay with that.

This Organization and Satanic Temple are not teaching children to be Satanist. They are using the word Satanic in their name to make a point about separation of Church and State, and to provide an alternative to the Christian Club.

What do they do in their weekly after school meetings, if atheism isn’t a system if thought as pp keeps posting?

It is our goal to provide a fun,
intellectually stimulating, and
non-proselytizing alternative to
current religious after school clubs
being offered in our public schools,
which aim to indoctrinate children into
their religious view.
We are not offering any materials or
lectures to your child about Satanism;
instead, our focus will be on free
inquiry and rationalism, bolstering
scientific understandings of the
natural world, and nurturing your
child’s already awesome ability to be
curious about the wonders around
them.

https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/after-school-satan

So they’re tearing down other religions, got it. If it’s just another nature or physics club, why not call it that.

then they will fit right in with the religious clubs.

You’ve obviously never been in a religious context. I don’t remember a single time anybody tore down another religion. A religious club is going to be more about praying and maybe a little scripture and lots of soup kitchens and other charitable deeds. You might have to buy stinky candles to support a homeless shelter attend out-of-tune caroling at the local old folks’ home.

The Satanist club? Who knows.

You're hilarious.

OK, tell us from your own experience what goes on in an elementary school religious club.

Also, tell us what the Satanists do every week.

Not the PP you are asking, but what does it matter what the specific clubs are doing? The Christian club was approved, and so was the Satan club. Sauce for the goose, etc.

I’m just curious. Atheism is the lack of belief, so there would seem to be no plan. If they’re doing Nature walks, why not call it that?

Do you really need to ask? It’s to draw attention to the fact that we have enshrined separation of church and state in our constitution, something that many religious folk don’t like.

So the kids sit around and complain about religious folk for an hour every week?

They haven't even met yet, so ow would you know.

This is what they said they're about: "“We do not believe in a supernatural Satan as a symbol because legend has it that Satan was the first to start asking questions and was cast out of heaven for that reason,” ASSC’s June Everett said. As WTKR’s report points out, the club’s flyer insists it’s not looking to convert children into any sort of religion and only wants to encourage them to look at the world scientifically."

I'll take them at their word, not that "complaining about religious folk for an hour every week" would be all bad.

The line about “we don’t want to convert children into any sort of religion” seems pretty self-evident, not sure why they felt they had to mention that as part of the club’s purpose, but maybe they had to say something?

Based on the number of people here who think atheism is a religion, I think it’s not self-evident to all.

Atheism has become a type of religion for some atheists.

You are proving my point.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Christian and I have no problem with this. I think atheistic Satanists are wrong theologically, but I also think that about Muslims, Pagans, and plenty of other Christians. If we're going to let groups use public spaces, it's going to include lots of people, whose beliefs I think are wrong.

I think of those others you’ve mentioned as “different”, not “wrong”. Literally worshipping evil counts as “wrong” in my book. I get that the school is backed into a corner based on their desire to provide space for the Christian club, but no, I would not be okay with that.

This Organization and Satanic Temple are not teaching children to be Satanist. They are using the word Satanic in their name to make a point about separation of Church and State, and to provide an alternative to the Christian Club.

What do they do in their weekly after school meetings, if atheism isn’t a system if thought as pp keeps posting?

It is our goal to provide a fun,
intellectually stimulating, and
non-proselytizing alternative to
current religious after school clubs
being offered in our public schools,
which aim to indoctrinate children into
their religious view.
We are not offering any materials or
lectures to your child about Satanism;
instead, our focus will be on free
inquiry and rationalism, bolstering
scientific understandings of the
natural world, and nurturing your
child’s already awesome ability to be
curious about the wonders around
them.

https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/after-school-satan

So they’re tearing down other religions, got it. If it’s just another nature or physics club, why not call it that.

then they will fit right in with the religious clubs.

You’ve obviously never been in a religious context. I don’t remember a single time anybody tore down another religion. A religious club is going to be more about praying and maybe a little scripture and lots of soup kitchens and other charitable deeds. You might have to buy stinky candles to support a homeless shelter attend out-of-tune caroling at the local old folks’ home.

The Satanist club? Who knows.

You're hilarious.

OK, tell us from your own experience what goes on in an elementary school religious club.

Also, tell us what the Satanists do every week.

Not the PP you are asking, but what does it matter what the specific clubs are doing? The Christian club was approved, and so was the Satan club. Sauce for the goose, etc.

I’m just curious. Atheism is the lack of belief, so there would seem to be no plan. If they’re doing Nature walks, why not call it that?

Do you really need to ask? It’s to draw attention to the fact that we have enshrined separation of church and state in our constitution, something that many religious folk don’t like.

So the kids sit around and complain about religious folk for an hour every week?

They haven't even met yet, so ow would you know.

This is what they said they're about: "“We do not believe in a supernatural Satan as a symbol because legend has it that Satan was the first to start asking questions and was cast out of heaven for that reason,” ASSC’s June Everett said. As WTKR’s report points out, the club’s flyer insists it’s not looking to convert children into any sort of religion and only wants to encourage them to look at the world scientifically."

I'll take them at their word, not that "complaining about religious folk for an hour every week" would be all bad.

Children have science class to look at the world scientifically. Why would families want Satanists to gain access to their children?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Christian and I have no problem with this. I think atheistic Satanists are wrong theologically, but I also think that about Muslims, Pagans, and plenty of other Christians. If we're going to let groups use public spaces, it's going to include lots of people, whose beliefs I think are wrong.

I think of those others you’ve mentioned as “different”, not “wrong”. Literally worshipping evil counts as “wrong” in my book. I get that the school is backed into a corner based on their desire to provide space for the Christian club, but no, I would not be okay with that.

This Organization and Satanic Temple are not teaching children to be Satanist. They are using the word Satanic in their name to make a point about separation of Church and State, and to provide an alternative to the Christian Club.

What do they do in their weekly after school meetings, if atheism isn’t a system if thought as pp keeps posting?

It is our goal to provide a fun,
intellectually stimulating, and
non-proselytizing alternative to
current religious after school clubs
being offered in our public schools,
which aim to indoctrinate children into
their religious view.
We are not offering any materials or
lectures to your child about Satanism;
instead, our focus will be on free
inquiry and rationalism, bolstering
scientific understandings of the
natural world, and nurturing your
child’s already awesome ability to be
curious about the wonders around
them.

https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/after-school-satan

So they’re tearing down other religions, got it. If it’s just another nature or physics club, why not call it that.

then they will fit right in with the religious clubs.

You’ve obviously never been in a religious context. I don’t remember a single time anybody tore down another religion. A religious club is going to be more about praying and maybe a little scripture and lots of soup kitchens and other charitable deeds. You might have to buy stinky candles to support a homeless shelter attend out-of-tune caroling at the local old folks’ home.

The Satanist club? Who knows.

You're hilarious.

OK, tell us from your own experience what goes on in an elementary school religious club.

Also, tell us what the Satanists do every week.

Not the PP you are asking, but what does it matter what the specific clubs are doing? The Christian club was approved, and so was the Satan club. Sauce for the goose, etc.

I’m just curious. Atheism is the lack of belief, so there would seem to be no plan. If they’re doing Nature walks, why not call it that?

Do you really need to ask? It’s to draw attention to the fact that we have enshrined separation of church and state in our constitution, something that many religious folk don’t like.

So the kids sit around and complain about religious folk for an hour every week?

They haven't even met yet, so ow would you know.

This is what they said they're about: "“We do not believe in a supernatural Satan as a symbol because legend has it that Satan was the first to start asking questions and was cast out of heaven for that reason,” ASSC’s June Everett said. As WTKR’s report points out, the club’s flyer insists it’s not looking to convert children into any sort of religion and only wants to encourage them to look at the world scientifically."

I'll take them at their word, not that "complaining about religious folk for an hour every week" would be all bad.

Children have science class to look at the world scientifically. Why would families want Satanists to gain access to their children?

Why would families want Christians to gain access to their children?