Nanny injury?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Do you pay into to wC and UI for her? She should make a WC claim for the hospital bill.
My kid just had a concussion. Symptoms typically worsen 2-5 days after injury and start to improve after day 7 but it can last for weeks.


Yes we do both thanks
I hope your child is feeling better
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don’t mean to instantly sound skeptical but this is similar to what our long term nanny started pulling. She had been a part of our family for years, was incredibly well compensated, etc. Now that she’s an ex-employee, a lot has come to light and we were definitely taken advantage of. Obviously follow the rules and do what you need to do but I would ask for proof and documentation. I’d also predict this isn’t going to work just for the sheer unpredictability of her if she’s taken that much time off already. I hate things like this. Sorry!


OP yes I’ve been wondering the last few weeks if she’s off doing a trial for another job or if her son was really sick. Now he’s better and she has this stuff. Sorry to hear about your situation. I think we’ll wait until Monday to see if we hear from her.
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Anonymous wrote:How old/heavy is your daughter that she could cause a concussion?


+1. Morbid curiosity I guess but I’m curious about this too. I have three little boys who are very wiggly and have been kicked but nothing close to a concussion. Id take her word for it and send those flowers but I also see why you’re doubtful. As a one time thing I would definitely let it go and assume it happened just as she said. If there has been a pattern of these types of things happening or you start to see one I might approach the situation with a bit more skepticism


Yes I totally see how it might have happened, but it seems coincidental on a Sunday ahead of a holiday week!! Also she sent a few short texts but no real explanation of if she’s got a concussion because of the situation with our DD or something else. She has been out a lot for the prior few weeks, including two days last week, she said it’s because her son was sick.


You are not supposed to yse your smartphone with concussions.
My friend got one after hitting her head and was off work for two weeks, and told no tv no devices because of the light, so her husband texting you and limited text phone time sounds in line with current concussion protocol
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Anonymous wrote:How old/heavy is your daughter that she could cause a concussion?


+1. Morbid curiosity I guess but I’m curious about this too. I have three little boys who are very wiggly and have been kicked but nothing close to a concussion. Id take her word for it and send those flowers but I also see why you’re doubtful. As a one time thing I would definitely let it go and assume it happened just as she said. If there has been a pattern of these types of things happening or you start to see one I might approach the situation with a bit more skepticism


Yes I totally see how it might have happened, but it seems coincidental on a Sunday ahead of a holiday week!! Also she sent a few short texts but no real explanation of if she’s got a concussion because of the situation with our DD or something else. She has been out a lot for the prior few weeks, including two days last week, she said it’s because her son was sick.


You are not supposed to yse your smartphone with concussions.
My friend got one after hitting her head and was off work for two weeks, and told no tv no devices because of the light, so her husband texting you and limited text phone time sounds in line with current concussion protocol


Thanks when he sent us the text he didn’t say that she had an issue, just that she was back in the ER which we assumed was with her son. We didn’t hear from him again after that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:On Thursday morning our FT nanny/housekeeper told us that our daughter accidentally kicked her in the head as she was getting DD dressed for school. She asked for Tylenol but worked the full day, she also worked all day on Friday. At 4am on Monday her husband sent a text to say that she was ‘at the ER again’ and would not be coming to work. Last night she sent me a text to say she had just gotten home, that she has a concussion and is dizzy so she can’t work for at least a week.
What would you do or think?



I would do what 14:43 suggests. I would also pay all medical expenses. You sound like you think she is scamming you. I hope your nanny reads this so she sees you for what you are
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'd ask for a doctors note.


And I would tell you where to go. You have no right to ask for this.
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Anonymous wrote:I'd ask for a doctors note.


And I would tell you where to go. You have no right to ask for this.


Actually you do. It’s common for employers and schools to ask for one.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:On Thursday morning our FT nanny/housekeeper told us that our daughter accidentally kicked her in the head as she was getting DD dressed for school. She asked for Tylenol but worked the full day, she also worked all day on Friday. At 4am on Monday her husband sent a text to say that she was ‘at the ER again’ and would not be coming to work. Last night she sent me a text to say she had just gotten home, that she has a concussion and is dizzy so she can’t work for at least a week.
What would you do or think?



I would do what 14:43 suggests. I would also pay all medical expenses. You sound like you think she is scamming you. I hope your nanny reads this so she sees you for what you are


It does sound like a scam.
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Anonymous wrote:Your daughter is 8 and the nanny was getting her dressed? Does she have special needs? Is that why you can't ask the 8 yo what happened? I'm a little confused.


Yes we asked DD and she said she didn’t remember. Then she said she was rushing and trying to get her socks on, they were both sitting on the floor and she accidentally put her foot up as nanny was bending down. The fact that DD didn’t remember makes me wonder how bad it could have been


I don’t know what to tell you. Even your own daughter told you what happened. What exactly are you afraid of? Getting sued or you don’t wanna pay your nanny this time off?


We pay her on the books and we have workers comp. But we also have an employment agreement and she’s not entitled to PTO until she’s worked for us for 12+ weeks, she started in September so it’s ten weeks now. I wouldn’t mind paying her for the week if she legitimately hurt herself in my home and she can explain the whole thing to me. But the whole thing has been so random and now it’s the holiday week and it’s possible that she’s taking the week off with family, or that she’s really sick.


Because you, obviously, are dishonest and would fake an injury so you could stay home on a holiday week, you think your nanny is as kdo a scam artist. Aren't you just a pile of excrement.
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Anonymous wrote:I'd ask for a doctors note.


And I would tell you where to go. You have no right to ask for this.


Actually you do. It’s common for employers and schools to ask for one.


And what about a note for her son’s hospital information?
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Anonymous wrote:Your daughter is 8 and the nanny was getting her dressed? Does she have special needs? Is that why you can't ask the 8 yo what happened? I'm a little confused.


Yes we asked DD and she said she didn’t remember. Then she said she was rushing and trying to get her socks on, they were both sitting on the floor and she accidentally put her foot up as nanny was bending down. The fact that DD didn’t remember makes me wonder how bad it could have been


I don’t know what to tell you. Even your own daughter told you what happened. What exactly are you afraid of? Getting sued or you don’t wanna pay your nanny this time off?


We pay her on the books and we have workers comp. But we also have an employment agreement and she’s not entitled to PTO until she’s worked for us for 12+ weeks, she started in September so it’s ten weeks now. I wouldn’t mind paying her for the week if she legitimately hurt herself in my home and she can explain the whole thing to me. But the whole thing has been so random and now it’s the holiday week and it’s possible that she’s taking the week off with family, or that she’s really sick.


Ask for documentation for her and son. Bit too bizzare. What did your child say.


My daughter couldn’t remember but when I asked her a few times she explained and showed me how it happened. She said she was sitting on the ground putting on her sock when nanny who was also sitting on the ground bent her head down to help DD as my DD was raising her foot.


“Can’t remember?” That’s a kid trying not to get in trouble (even if you said “you won’t be in trouble”). If it hadn’t happened, your kid would have immediately said “no!” when you asked if she kicked her nanny in the head.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:On Thursday morning our FT nanny/housekeeper told us that our daughter accidentally kicked her in the head as she was getting DD dressed for school. She asked for Tylenol but worked the full day, she also worked all day on Friday. At 4am on Monday her husband sent a text to say that she was ‘at the ER again’ and would not be coming to work. Last night she sent me a text to say she had just gotten home, that she has a concussion and is dizzy so she can’t work for at least a week.
What would you do or think?



I would do what 14:43 suggests. I would also pay all medical expenses. You sound like you think she is scamming you. I hope your nanny reads this so she sees you for what you are

And plenty of Nannies do scam so she is right to be honest but open minded to all options for what is really going on. I’m a PP who definitely experienced being taken advantage of and swindled/lied to by a nanny. Her husband actually texted and called to let me know what was going on bc we had been very good to the family for years and he felt bad. OP has done everything correctly but is right to ask questions and not just assume everyone is being honest and forthcoming.
Anonymous
This sounds fishy to me. She is a new employee and taking so much time off already. Not a good sign. Also, she should be the one calling and communicating this to you, not her husband. Give her the benefit of the doubt, but unless you love her, start looking for a backup too.
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Anonymous wrote:I gave myself a concussion bumping my head getting in the car. The doctor said it's not always related to the force of the hit/impact so much as the location.

And while I was out of work for the week following it, I was restricted. Even normal lamps gave me a terrible headache if too bright. Luckily, I have my own office and was able to work with my office lights off and my laptop screen dimmed. Even then, too much time on my laptop and I'd feel terrible. I also couldn't drive for a week after because of the dizzy spells that came and went. I even scumbled walking a few times.

Honestly, after going through one, I'd not want someone with a concussion caring for my kid.


Yikes did you feel better after a week? She’s taking the week off and I’m also off now for the next fee days. I know it’s possible she does have a concussion but I’m surprised she hasn’t just reached out directly to say so.


She has a concussion and needs peace and quiet. You are not in that category. Just from your posts, I can understand why she might very well be looking for a new job. Leave her alone
Anonymous
Ask for the medical documentation so you can file a workers comp claim. If she doesn’t provide it you have your answer.

(Also, I once had a nanny miss a week because my 8 week infant reportedly scratched her in the eye. I didn’t doubt the injury but wasn’t sure she really needed a full week off!! But we paid her anyway and had insurance reimburse the urgent care visit.)
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