Student loan forgiveness has made me even more distant from my father

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, go see a therapist. Some of this is your dad, some of this is you. And has nothing to do with politics. Maybe you don’t mean to, but you come across as narcissistic.

BTW, no one is going broke on a marijuana habit. I get the feeling if his hobby were fishing, you’d have an issue about how he bought himself a fishing pole and made you take out student loans. Basically, he’s supposed to foresake anything that brings him a little bit of pleasure for you. I hope you aren’t raising your own children the way you wanted to be treated. You sound like you want everything handed to you at someone else’s expense. As a lifelong Dem voter, I can’t stand this attitude -it gives fuel to people who don’t want to support social programs for the underprivileged.

Op here. People do go broke from buying marijuana. You have no idea what my childhood was like because of his drug habit. He could have provided us with a much better upbringing if he wasn't high all the time. He was feeling a little pleasure daily. That's not okay. Even if I didn't qualify for student loan forgiveness, I would still support others who do qualify.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, go see a therapist. Some of this is your dad, some of this is you. And has nothing to do with politics. Maybe you don’t mean to, but you come across as narcissistic.

BTW, no one is going broke on a marijuana habit. I get the feeling if his hobby were fishing, you’d have an issue about how he bought himself a fishing pole and made you take out student loans. Basically, he’s supposed to foresake anything that brings him a little bit of pleasure for you. I hope you aren’t raising your own children the way you wanted to be treated. You sound like you want everything handed to you at someone else’s expense. As a lifelong Dem voter, I can’t stand this attitude -it gives fuel to people who don’t want to support social programs for the underprivileged.

Op here. People do go broke from buying marijuana. You have no idea what my childhood was like because of his drug habit. He could have provided us with a much better upbringing if he wasn't high all the time. He was feeling a little pleasure daily. That's not okay. Even if I didn't qualify for student loan forgiveness, I would still support others who do qualify.

You sound like a mess. Go to therapy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, go see a therapist. Some of this is your dad, some of this is you. And has nothing to do with politics. Maybe you don’t mean to, but you come across as narcissistic.

BTW, no one is going broke on a marijuana habit. I get the feeling if his hobby were fishing, you’d have an issue about how he bought himself a fishing pole and made you take out student loans. Basically, he’s supposed to foresake anything that brings him a little bit of pleasure for you. I hope you aren’t raising your own children the way you wanted to be treated. You sound like you want everything handed to you at someone else’s expense. As a lifelong Dem voter, I can’t stand this attitude -it gives fuel to people who don’t want to support social programs for the underprivileged.

Our president already promised this program. She has every right to be mad.

[Anonymous]

OP, my dad is a Trump supporter. He had substance issues when I was growing up. He did at least pay for my education, though. I don't let it get to me. When he brings up politics, I usually just roll my eyes at him but refuse to engage him. It just doesn't need to affect our relationship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, go see a therapist. Some of this is your dad, some of this is you. And has nothing to do with politics. Maybe you don’t mean to, but you come across as narcissistic.

BTW, no one is going broke on a marijuana habit. I get the feeling if his hobby were fishing, you’d have an issue about how he bought himself a fishing pole and made you take out student loans. Basically, he’s supposed to foresake anything that brings him a little bit of pleasure for you. I hope you aren’t raising your own children the way you wanted to be treated. You sound like you want everything handed to you at someone else’s expense. As a lifelong Dem voter, I can’t stand this attitude -it gives fuel to people who don’t want to support social programs for the underprivileged.

Op here. People do go broke from buying marijuana. You have no idea what my childhood was like because of his drug habit. He could have provided us with a much better upbringing if he wasn't high all the time. He was feeling a little pleasure daily. That's not okay. Even if I didn't qualify for student loan forgiveness, I would still support others who do qualify.

You sound like a mess. Go to therapy.

I have been to therapy but I can't afford to go for years and years. Being high all the time isn't normal. It's not like going fishing. It impacted my childhood. My dad still operates this way even when he visits us out of state. The student loan things bring memories of when I was younger and he wasn't available financially or emotionally to help me. Growing up in the midwest without a car was very, very hard. We lived in an upper middle-class neighborhood and I was the only one in college and beyond without a car.

[Anonymous]

Anyone who tells you that “everyone should suffer” because they suffered, or their parents suffered (they paid off their loans or paid for school outright), or that they will continue to suffer (like me, they have way more debt than this loan forgiveness will be able to effectively address) is just selfish, jealous, and bitter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who tells you that “everyone should suffer” because they suffered, or their parents suffered (they paid off their loans or paid for school outright), or that they will continue to suffer (like me, they have way more debt than this loan forgiveness will be able to effectively address) is just selfish, jealous, and bitter.

+10

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The money used for student loan forgiveness comes from other places. It isn’t free. Costs taxpayers money, and has other repercussions. It’s valid for people to be opposed to loan forgiveness. It’s fine to disagree, but there are logical arguments for both sides. You’re the one being rigid and narrow minded.

I’m NOT a Trump supporter. Fairly progressive liberal. Student loan forgiveness is complicated. DH and I are both first generation college and law students. We borrowed everything and then sacrificed for the next 20 tears to pay off our loans. Exercise some critical thinking on this issue. It’s not so simple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, go see a therapist. Some of this is your dad, some of this is you. And has nothing to do with politics. Maybe you don’t mean to, but you come across as narcissistic.

BTW, no one is going broke on a marijuana habit. I get the feeling if his hobby were fishing, you’d have an issue about how he bought himself a fishing pole and made you take out student loans. Basically, he’s supposed to foresake anything that brings him a little bit of pleasure for you. I hope you aren’t raising your own children the way you wanted to be treated. You sound like you want everything handed to you at someone else’s expense. As a lifelong Dem voter, I can’t stand this attitude -it gives fuel to people who don’t want to support social programs for the underprivileged.

Op here. People do go broke from buying marijuana. You have no idea what my childhood was like because of his drug habit. He could have provided us with a much better upbringing if he wasn't high all the time. He was feeling a little pleasure daily. That's not okay. Even if I didn't qualify for student loan forgiveness, I would still support others who do qualify.

You sound like a mess. Go to therapy.

I have been to therapy but I can't afford to go for years and years. Being high all the time isn't normal. It's not like going fishing. It impacted my childhood. My dad still operates this way even when he visits us out of state. The student loan things bring memories of when I was younger and he wasn't available financially or emotionally to help me. Growing up in the midwest without a car was very, very hard. We lived in an upper middle-class neighborhood and I was the only one in college and beyond without a car.

Zero sympathy about the car. A lot of us went to school without a car to rural campuses. Or bought super old cars at a bargain basement price and worked multiple jobs. Your story keeps shifting -I’ve never met someone from an UMC neighborhood on a Pell grant.

You sound like you want to be a perpetual victim and not an adult. You had a solution to the car problem, but didn’t want to take responsibility. You don’t want to pay student loans, you want someone else to fund that.

OP, the student loan forgiveness would help people, but it’s actually a complicated economic question (including the fact that it incentivizes colleges to raise tuition even more…if you have kids, that will be your problem eventually). But what I’m picking up here is not father/daughter political differences, but a grown woman who wants to lay down and keep playing the victim. Your life isn’t going to improve until you start taking ownership for it and stop laying everything on other people to fix.

[Anonymous]

The student loan forgiveness plan reminds me when Timmy Rogers in 5th grade ran for class president on the premise that he'd triple recess.

Of course all the idiots voted for him and of course recess wasnt tripled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who tells you that “everyone should suffer” because they suffered, or their parents suffered (they paid off their loans or paid for school outright), or that they will continue to suffer (like me, they have way more debt than this loan forgiveness will be able to effectively address) is just selfish, jealous, and bitter.

Funny, I was thinking that anyone that tells you that you need to pay for their lifestyle is just selfish and lazy.

[Anonymous]

I don't understand the logic at all. No one made you take the loans. How is it different than my car loan?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the logic at all. No one made you take the loans. How is it different than my car loan?

I want MY car, but I don't want to pay my loan!

Mommeeeee! Dadeeeeeee!!!
Its not fair and you're SELFISH!!
STOMP ! STOMP !! STOMP!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the logic at all. No one made you take the loans. How is it different than my car loan?

I want MY car, but I don't want to pay my loan!

Mommeeeee! Dadeeeeeee!!!
Its not fair and you're SELFISH!!
STOMP ! STOMP !! STOMP!!!!

Yeah, I’m starting to get why papa wanted to chill with some weed. Knew he was never going to measure up to Princess’ expectations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, go see a therapist. Some of this is your dad, some of this is you. And has nothing to do with politics. Maybe you don’t mean to, but you come across as narcissistic.

BTW, no one is going broke on a marijuana habit. I get the feeling if his hobby were fishing, you’d have an issue about how he bought himself a fishing pole and made you take out student loans. Basically, he’s supposed to foresake anything that brings him a little bit of pleasure for you. I hope you aren’t raising your own children the way you wanted to be treated. You sound like you want everything handed to you at someone else’s expense. As a lifelong Dem voter, I can’t stand this attitude -it gives fuel to people who don’t want to support social programs for the underprivileged.

Op here. People do go broke from buying marijuana. You have no idea what my childhood was like because of his drug habit. He could have provided us with a much better upbringing if he wasn't high all the time. He was feeling a little pleasure daily. That's not okay. Even if I didn't qualify for student loan forgiveness, I would still support others who do qualify.

You sound like a mess. Go to therapy.

I have been to therapy but I can't afford to go for years and years. Being high all the time isn't normal. It's not like going fishing. It impacted my childhood. My dad still operates this way even when he visits us out of state. The student loan things bring memories of when I was younger and he wasn't available financially or emotionally to help me. Growing up in the midwest without a car was very, very hard. We lived in an upper middle-class neighborhood and I was the only one in college and beyond without a car.

Zero sympathy about the car. A lot of us went to school without a car to rural campuses. Or bought super old cars at a bargain basement price and worked multiple jobs. Your story keeps shifting -I’ve never met someone from an UMC neighborhood on a Pell grant.

You sound like you want to be a perpetual victim and not an adult. You had a solution to the car problem, but didn’t want to take responsibility. You don’t want to pay student loans, you want someone else to fund that.

OP, the student loan forgiveness would help people, but it’s actually a complicated economic question (including the fact that it incentivizes colleges to raise tuition even more…if you have kids, that will be your problem eventually). But what I’m picking up here is not father/daughter political differences, but a grown woman who wants to lay down and keep playing the victim. Your life isn’t going to improve until you start taking ownership for it and stop laying everything on other people to fix.

Op here. Without a car it was very hard to find work, and ultimately, that's why I left college. I couldn't keep up with working full time and studying full time and the time on the bus. I did not take loans to pay rent or live on campus or pay for my meals. I went to a commuter state college. The fact that my dad was high all the time had a significant impact on my upbringing. I am not playing the victim. I have moved on. I moved out when I was 18 and never needed financial help from him. It was irresponsible for my dad to use the money on drugs when he could have helped us. He bought an older car for my older sister, for example. He continues to feed his drug habit and isn't saving for retirement. We lived in a nice neighborhood growing out because my grandmother owned the home. Now that I have children myself, I am growing angry at my dad, especially when he visits us out of state and manages to find drugs locally. He comes for two days at a time. I think it's selfish not to save at least a portion of money for your kids' education. I didn't grow up or attend college in cities with mass transportation so having a car was essential. Its not safe to take the bus late at night. I wouldn't want that for my children. I left college and moved to dc. I was okay in DC without a car because mass transportation is better and safer.