S/O from Miami thread - Cuban from Miami - AMA

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Anonymous wrote:Cubans in Miami came here fleeing from a communist regime in Cuba. They had their property confiscated and have seen the country decline for decades. Anything that even smells or socialist is a no-no. Democrats screwed over the attempt to overthrow Castro at the Bay of Pigs. Democrats did nothing when Brothers to the Rescue aircraft were shot down in the 1990s. In addition, Cubans are socially conservative and for the most part, one of the higher-income immigrant groups.

Looks like Cubans are prone to misinformation. Is Cuba a socialist country? Can you list what is socialism and whether Cuba adheres to that? Also you seem to be saying Democrats policies smell like socialism. Please list Democrats policies which would be a socialism. I really want to understand what real policy (not GOP talking points) makes Cuban believe one party is tending towards socialism.

Being prone to misinformation correlates with lower than average IQs.

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Anonymous wrote:Cubans in Miami came here fleeing from a communist regime in Cuba. They had their property confiscated and have seen the country decline for decades. Anything that even smells or socialist is a no-no. Democrats screwed over the attempt to overthrow Castro at the Bay of Pigs. Democrats did nothing when Brothers to the Rescue aircraft were shot down in the 1990s. In addition, Cubans are socially conservative and for the most part, one of the higher-income immigrant groups.

Democrats ended the whole Elian Gonzalez thing as well which was very unpopular with Miami Cubans.

OP again - yes, that too. Elian's father was a puppet of the Castro regime.

Even a “puppet of the Castro regime” has the right to raise his own son, particularly when the mother is dead.

I don't disagree. The flip side is that the mother gave her life to bring her son to freedom.

It seems to me that many liberals/Dems view Cuba in a semi-positive light. Mostly I think because of misinformation. The idea that education is "free", that the health care system is any good, etc. Those of us who grew up there, went to school there, and still have family there know better.

Do Cubans really think they're white? Do they realize white people don't and just use them and they don't care or what?

Many Cubans are white though. Direct descendants of Europeans

But in the US people use the one drop rule. White southerners don't think of Cubans as white. No matter how European they are. They are just as likely to be discriminated against as most other wealthy Latinos. Which is to say less likely than dark
skinned Mexicans and Guatemalans, but more likely than people who don't speak Spanish and read as fully Americanized.

The “one drop rule” does not apply here. We are talking about people who are direct descendants of SPANIARDS. And guess what? Spain is a European country. Not all europeans are blonde/blue-eyed. Why is that so hard to understand?

Ah ah ah ah . Keep telling yourself that amigo. You're definitely not Anglo Saxon and that's more than enough for most white people to see you as an intruder.

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Anonymous wrote:Cubans in Miami came here fleeing from a communist regime in Cuba. They had their property confiscated and have seen the country decline for decades. Anything that even smells or socialist is a no-no. Democrats screwed over the attempt to overthrow Castro at the Bay of Pigs. Democrats did nothing when Brothers to the Rescue aircraft were shot down in the 1990s. In addition, Cubans are socially conservative and for the most part, one of the higher-income immigrant groups.

Looks like Cubans are prone to misinformation. Is Cuba a socialist country? Can you list what is socialism and whether Cuba adheres to that? Also you seem to be saying Democrats policies smell like socialism. Please list Democrats policies which would be a socialism. I really want to understand what real policy (not GOP talking points) makes Cuban believe one party is tending towards socialism.

Being prone to misinformation correlates with lower than average IQs.

Hmm. Which group of Americans do you think, on average, have lower IQ?

Yup! It's the one brainwashed to vote for one and only one political party...or else.

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Anonymous wrote:Cubans in Miami came here fleeing from a communist regime in Cuba. They had their property confiscated and have seen the country decline for decades. Anything that even smells or socialist is a no-no. Democrats screwed over the attempt to overthrow Castro at the Bay of Pigs. Democrats did nothing when Brothers to the Rescue aircraft were shot down in the 1990s. In addition, Cubans are socially conservative and for the most part, one of the higher-income immigrant groups.

Democrats ended the whole Elian Gonzalez thing as well which was very unpopular with Miami Cubans.

OP again - yes, that too. Elian's father was a puppet of the Castro regime.

Even a “puppet of the Castro regime” has the right to raise his own son, particularly when the mother is dead.

I don't disagree. The flip side is that the mother gave her life to bring her son to freedom.

It seems to me that many liberals/Dems view Cuba in a semi-positive light. Mostly I think because of misinformation. The idea that education is "free", that the health care system is any good, etc. Those of us who grew up there, went to school there, and still have family there know better.

Do Cubans really think they're white? Do they realize white people don't and just use them and they don't care or what?

Many Cubans are white though. Direct descendants of Europeans

But in the US people use the one drop rule. White southerners don't think of Cubans as white. No matter how European they are. They are just as likely to be discriminated against as most other wealthy Latinos. Which is to say less likely than dark
skinned Mexicans and Guatemalans, but more likely than people who don't speak Spanish and read as fully Americanized.

The “one drop rule” does not apply here. We are talking about people who are direct descendants of SPANIARDS. And guess what? Spain is a European country. Not all europeans are blonde/blue-eyed. Why is that so hard to understand?

Ah ah ah ah . Keep telling yourself that amigo. You're definitely not Anglo Saxon and that's more than enough for most white people to see you as an intruder.

NP: This is false. Speak decent English, work hard, be respectful...and 99.9% of all Americans, regardless of skin color, will treat you well.

[Anonymous]

My boss is Cuban and expresses a lot of intolerance for people of color. I don't think he sees himself as a POC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My boss is Cuban and expresses a lot of intolerance for people of color. I don't think he sees himself as a POC.

Because he's probably not a "POC" he is of Spanish origin, meaning European origin. Spain=Europe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My boss is Cuban and expresses a lot of intolerance for people of color. I don't think he sees himself as a POC.

The POC thingy is old anglo racism.

Your Cuban boss probably focuses on things like, who knows, content of character.

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Anonymous wrote:My boss is Cuban and expresses a lot of intolerance for people of color. I don't think he sees himself as a POC.

Because he's probably not a "POC" he is of Spanish origin, meaning European origin. Spain=Europe.

Most Cubans are mestizo, mixed white and black for generations.

Anglos could try and keep up with facts.

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Anonymous wrote:Cubans in Miami came here fleeing from a communist regime in Cuba. They had their property confiscated and have seen the country decline for decades. Anything that even smells or socialist is a no-no. Democrats screwed over the attempt to overthrow Castro at the Bay of Pigs. Democrats did nothing when Brothers to the Rescue aircraft were shot down in the 1990s. In addition, Cubans are socially conservative and for the most part, one of the higher-income immigrant groups.

Democrats ended the whole Elian Gonzalez thing as well which was very unpopular with Miami Cubans.

OP again - yes, that too. Elian's father was a puppet of the Castro regime.

Even a “puppet of the Castro regime” has the right to raise his own son, particularly when the mother is dead.

I don't disagree. The flip side is that the mother gave her life to bring her son to freedom.

It seems to me that many liberals/Dems view Cuba in a semi-positive light. Mostly I think because of misinformation. The idea that education is "free", that the health care system is any good, etc. Those of us who grew up there, went to school there, and still have family there know better.

Do Cubans really think they're white? Do they realize white people don't and just use them and they don't care or what?

Many Cubans are white though. Direct descendants of Europeans

But in the US people use the one drop rule. White southerners don't think of Cubans as white. No matter how European they are. They are just as likely to be discriminated against as most other wealthy Latinos. Which is to say less likely than dark
skinned Mexicans and Guatemalans, but more likely than people who don't speak Spanish and read as fully Americanized.

The “one drop rule” does not apply here. We are talking about people who are direct descendants of SPANIARDS. And guess what? Spain is a European country. Not all europeans are blonde/blue-eyed. Why is that so hard to understand?

Ah ah ah ah . Keep telling yourself that amigo. You're definitely not Anglo Saxon and that's more than enough for most white people to see you as an intruder.

DP. Sigh.

I am a light-skinned Latina. I have some indigenous ancestry but look White. My parents have accents and have never experienced any explicit discrimination based on how they speak, or their names. I have had some people make uncomfortable comments (often White people opining on my racial identity), but nothing like the BIPOC people in my life who cannot pass as White. I don't doubt that I've experienced some discrimination that was not explicit, but to suggest that most White people see me as an intruder is absurd.

Stop fixating on light-skinned Latinos. We are a minority that is not worth your energy. Most Latinos in the United States have visible Afro and indigenous features and are subject to racial discrimination on the basis of this. That doesn't mean all Latinos need to have the same political positions or are beholden to the Democratic party. I say this as someone who is a progressive Democrat.

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Anonymous wrote:Cubans in Miami came here fleeing from a communist regime in Cuba. They had their property confiscated and have seen the country decline for decades. Anything that even smells or socialist is a no-no. Democrats screwed over the attempt to overthrow Castro at the Bay of Pigs. Democrats did nothing when Brothers to the Rescue aircraft were shot down in the 1990s. In addition, Cubans are socially conservative and for the most part, one of the higher-income immigrant groups.

Democrats ended the whole Elian Gonzalez thing as well which was very unpopular with Miami Cubans.

OP again - yes, that too. Elian's father was a puppet of the Castro regime.

Even a “puppet of the Castro regime” has the right to raise his own son, particularly when the mother is dead.

I don't disagree. The flip side is that the mother gave her life to bring her son to freedom.

It seems to me that many liberals/Dems view Cuba in a semi-positive light. Mostly I think because of misinformation. The idea that education is "free", that the health care system is any good, etc. Those of us who grew up there, went to school there, and still have family there know better.

Do Cubans really think they're white? Do they realize white people don't and just use them and they don't care or what?

Many Cubans are white though. Direct descendants of Europeans

But in the US people use the one drop rule. White southerners don't think of Cubans as white. No matter how European they are. They are just as likely to be discriminated against as most other wealthy Latinos. Which is to say less likely than dark
skinned Mexicans and Guatemalans, but more likely than people who don't speak Spanish and read as fully Americanized.

The “one drop rule” does not apply here. We are talking about people who are direct descendants of SPANIARDS. And guess what? Spain is a European country. Not all europeans are blonde/blue-eyed. Why is that so hard to understand?

Americans have a tough time understanding not everyone is as racist as they are.

Especially Dems, who have had a quite fixed dogma around this for a couple hundred years.

What is currently the Dem party did not create the one drop rule, Rs did.

[Anonymous]

The Black Cubans I know have a very different opinion of Rs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My boss is Cuban and expresses a lot of intolerance for people of color. I don't think he sees himself as a POC.

Because he's probably not a "POC" he is of Spanish origin, meaning European origin. Spain=Europe.

Most Cubans are mestizo, mixed white and black for generations.

Anglos could try and keep up with facts.

The rich Cubans who immigrated to Florida for the past few decades (and who traditionally vote R) are NOT mestizo! They are WHITE (i.e. SPANISH) how many times do we have to explain this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Black Cubans I know have a very different opinion of Rs.

The Black Cubans I know hate "progressives", having suffered first-hand the Castro regime, even to this day.

Patria Y Vida.

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Anonymous wrote:Cubans in Miami came here fleeing from a communist regime in Cuba. They had their property confiscated and have seen the country decline for decades. Anything that even smells or socialist is a no-no. Democrats screwed over the attempt to overthrow Castro at the Bay of Pigs. Democrats did nothing when Brothers to the Rescue aircraft were shot down in the 1990s. In addition, Cubans are socially conservative and for the most part, one of the higher-income immigrant groups.

Democrats ended the whole Elian Gonzalez thing as well which was very unpopular with Miami Cubans.

OP again - yes, that too. Elian's father was a puppet of the Castro regime.

Even a “puppet of the Castro regime” has the right to raise his own son, particularly when the mother is dead.

I don't disagree. The flip side is that the mother gave her life to bring her son to freedom.

It seems to me that many liberals/Dems view Cuba in a semi-positive light. Mostly I think because of misinformation. The idea that education is "free", that the health care system is any good, etc. Those of us who grew up there, went to school there, and still have family there know better.

Do Cubans really think they're white? Do they realize white people don't and just use them and they don't care or what?

Many Cubans are white though. Direct descendants of Europeans

But in the US people use the one drop rule. White southerners don't think of Cubans as white. No matter how European they are. They are just as likely to be discriminated against as most other wealthy Latinos. Which is to say less likely than dark
skinned Mexicans and Guatemalans, but more likely than people who don't speak Spanish and read as fully Americanized.

The “one drop rule” does not apply here. We are talking about people who are direct descendants of SPANIARDS. And guess what? Spain is a European country. Not all europeans are blonde/blue-eyed. Why is that so hard to understand?

Ah ah ah ah . Keep telling yourself that amigo. You're definitely not Anglo Saxon and that's more than enough for most white people to see you as an intruder.

DP. Sigh.

I am a light-skinned Latina. I have some indigenous ancestry but look White. My parents have accents and have never experienced any explicit discrimination based on how they speak, or their names. I have had some people make uncomfortable comments (often White people opining on my racial identity), but nothing like the BIPOC people in my life who cannot pass as White. I don't doubt that I've experienced some discrimination that was not explicit, but to suggest that most White people see me as an intruder is absurd.

Stop fixating on light-skinned Latinos. We are a minority that is not worth your energy. Most Latinos in the United States have visible Afro and indigenous features and are subject to racial discrimination on the basis of this. That doesn't mean all Latinos need to have the same political positions or are beholden to the Democratic party. I say this as someone who is a progressive Democrat.

Of course. Point being, lighter skinned Hispanics can be racist also. Anti Immigrant, even anti-Hispanic.

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Anonymous wrote:Cubans in Miami came here fleeing from a communist regime in Cuba. They had their property confiscated and have seen the country decline for decades. Anything that even smells or socialist is a no-no. Democrats screwed over the attempt to overthrow Castro at the Bay of Pigs. Democrats did nothing when Brothers to the Rescue aircraft were shot down in the 1990s. In addition, Cubans are socially conservative and for the most part, one of the higher-income immigrant groups.

Democrats ended the whole Elian Gonzalez thing as well which was very unpopular with Miami Cubans.

OP again - yes, that too. Elian's father was a puppet of the Castro regime.

Even a “puppet of the Castro regime” has the right to raise his own son, particularly when the mother is dead.

I don't disagree. The flip side is that the mother gave her life to bring her son to freedom.

It seems to me that many liberals/Dems view Cuba in a semi-positive light. Mostly I think because of misinformation. The idea that education is "free", that the health care system is any good, etc. Those of us who grew up there, went to school there, and still have family there know better.

Do Cubans really think they're white? Do they realize white people don't and just use them and they don't care or what?

Many Cubans are white though. Direct descendants of Europeans

But in the US people use the one drop rule. White southerners don't think of Cubans as white. No matter how European they are. They are just as likely to be discriminated against as most other wealthy Latinos. Which is to say less likely than dark
skinned Mexicans and Guatemalans, but more likely than people who don't speak Spanish and read as fully Americanized.

The “one drop rule” does not apply here. We are talking about people who are direct descendants of SPANIARDS. And guess what? Spain is a European country. Not all europeans are blonde/blue-eyed. Why is that so hard to understand?

Ah ah ah ah . Keep telling yourself that amigo. You're definitely not Anglo Saxon and that's more than enough for most white people to see you as an intruder.

DP. Sigh.

I am a light-skinned Latina. I have some indigenous ancestry but look White. My parents have accents and have never experienced any explicit discrimination based on how they speak, or their names. I have had some people make uncomfortable comments (often White people opining on my racial identity), but nothing like the BIPOC people in my life who cannot pass as White. I don't doubt that I've experienced some discrimination that was not explicit, but to suggest that most White people see me as an intruder is absurd.

Stop fixating on light-skinned Latinos. We are a minority that is not worth your energy. Most Latinos in the United States have visible Afro and indigenous features and are subject to racial discrimination on the basis of this. That doesn't mean all Latinos need to have the same political positions or are beholden to the Democratic party. I say this as someone who is a progressive Democrat.

Of course. Point being, lighter skinned Hispanics can be racist also. Anti Immigrant, even anti-Hispanic.

Lol no, that's not what you said. You said, "Ah ah ah ah . Keep telling yourself that amigo. You're definitely not Anglo Saxon and that's more than enough for most white people to see you as an intruder."