Covid-19 Leave No Longer Available for MCPS Employees

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:wait, what is this about carefirst? that’s what i’ve had for years. i didn’t see anything about changes. w the actual f???

There was an email from ERSC tonight. They're dropping CareFirst PPO and HMO as of 1/1/2023 and offering Cigna instead. It's just absurd timing. As if employees weren't stressed enough already, let's destabilize everyone's insurance situation. They noted that it will save them money, and also that most of us hopefully won't lose access to too many doctors. I'm sure they think that's reassuring.

They are going to have more employees hitting the door with this—so dumb.

Maybe, but it's awful late to be springing this for anyone wanting to find a job in a different district in time for the beginning of the school year. The only thing worse than changing health insurance is losing health insurance altogether.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So you get Covid you go to work sick?? I see resignations.
I will take off sick if I get Covid. Not putting my health or recovery at risk for work from home administrators.

No, you use your existing sick leave like has been the case for decades with every other illness

This. No more two week paid vacations for popping an asymptomatic positive test. Use sick leave like everyone else.

How much vacation time do you think teachers get?

You get 5 personal days a year.

Cue dcum parents who are furious that teachers might need to take a day off during the school year

It's 3 personal days a year. You can carry over some so that you never have more than 5, but you're only given 3.

And some schools are strict about not using them to extend a 3 day weekend (that's fun for the family wedding on a holiday weekend...) And not everyone is given their religious holidays off like Christmas and Easter are, so imagine wanting to be with family on a holiday on 3 personal days.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So you get Covid you go to work sick?? I see resignations.
I will take off sick if I get Covid. Not putting my health or recovery at risk for work from home administrators.

No, you use your existing sick leave like has been the case for decades with every other illness

This. No more two week paid vacations for popping an asymptomatic positive test. Use sick leave like everyone else.

How much vacation time do you think teachers get?

You get 5 personal days a year.

Cue dcum parents who are furious that teachers might need to take a day off during the school year

It's 3 personal days a year. You can carry over some so that you never have more than 5, but you're only given 3.

And some schools are strict about not using them to extend a 3 day weekend (that's fun for the family wedding on a holiday weekend...) And not everyone is given their religious holidays off like Christmas and Easter are, so imagine wanting to be with family on a holiday on 3 personal days.

How much annual leave do you get?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So you get Covid you go to work sick?? I see resignations.
I will take off sick if I get Covid. Not putting my health or recovery at risk for work from home administrators.

No, you use your existing sick leave like has been the case for decades with every other illness

This. No more two week paid vacations for popping an asymptomatic positive test. Use sick leave like everyone else.

How much vacation time do you think teachers get?

You get 5 personal days a year.

Cue dcum parents who are furious that teachers might need to take a day off during the school year

It's 3 personal days a year. You can carry over some so that you never have more than 5, but you're only given 3.

And some schools are strict about not using them to extend a 3 day weekend (that's fun for the family wedding on a holiday weekend...) And not everyone is given their religious holidays off like Christmas and Easter are, so imagine wanting to be with family on a holiday on 3 personal days.

How much annual leave do you get?

10 month employees receive 10 sick days each academic year. However, if you belong to the Sick Bank (which most employees do), two of those days are donated back to the Sick Bank. Therefore, most employees receive eight additional sick days per academic year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So you get Covid you go to work sick?? I see resignations.
I will take off sick if I get Covid. Not putting my health or recovery at risk for work from home administrators.

No, you use your existing sick leave like has been the case for decades with every other illness

This. No more two week paid vacations for popping an asymptomatic positive test. Use sick leave like everyone else.

How much vacation time do you think teachers get?

You get 5 personal days a year.

Cue dcum parents who are furious that teachers might need to take a day off during the school year

It's 3 personal days a year. You can carry over some so that you never have more than 5, but you're only given 3.

And some schools are strict about not using them to extend a 3 day weekend (that's fun for the family wedding on a holiday weekend...) And not everyone is given their religious holidays off like Christmas and Easter are, so imagine wanting to be with family on a holiday on 3 personal days.

How much annual leave do you get?

10 month employees receive 10 sick days each academic year. However, if you belong to the Sick Bank (which most employees do), two of those days are donated back to the Sick Bank. Therefore, most employees receive eight additional sick days per academic year.

So 8 sick days, plus 3 personal days, and nothing else?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So you get Covid you go to work sick?? I see resignations.
I will take off sick if I get Covid. Not putting my health or recovery at risk for work from home administrators.

No, you use your existing sick leave like has been the case for decades with every other illness

This. No more two week paid vacations for popping an asymptomatic positive test. Use sick leave like everyone else.

How much vacation time do you think teachers get?

You get 5 personal days a year.

Cue dcum parents who are furious that teachers might need to take a day off during the school year

It's 3 personal days a year. You can carry over some so that you never have more than 5, but you're only given 3.

And some schools are strict about not using them to extend a 3 day weekend (that's fun for the family wedding on a holiday weekend...) And not everyone is given their religious holidays off like Christmas and Easter are, so imagine wanting to be with family on a holiday on 3 personal days.

How much annual leave do you get?

10 month employees receive 10 sick days each academic year. However, if you belong to the Sick Bank (which most employees do), two of those days are donated back to the Sick Bank. Therefore, most employees receive eight additional sick days per academic year.

So 8 sick days, plus 3 personal days, and nothing else?

that is correct. 10 sick days (8 for sick leave bank members), 3 personal days. nothing else. this is for 10 month employees, which is all teachers.

[Anonymous]

Correct. They can also be very strict about when you can use personal days or sick days. Admin can veto any personal day use and you have to apply at least three days ahead of time. Some admin require a sub before they will approve a day off. Getting a sub can also be a huge issue particularly on Fridays or Mondays.

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Anonymous wrote:So you get Covid you go to work sick?? I see resignations.
I will take off sick if I get Covid. Not putting my health or recovery at risk for work from home administrators.

No, you use your existing sick leave like has been the case for decades with every other illness

This. No more two week paid vacations for popping an asymptomatic positive test. Use sick leave like everyone else.

How much vacation time do you think teachers get?

You get 5 personal days a year.

Cue dcum parents who are furious that teachers might need to take a day off during the school year

It's 3 personal days a year. You can carry over some so that you never have more than 5, but you're only given 3.

And some schools are strict about not using them to extend a 3 day weekend (that's fun for the family wedding on a holiday weekend...) And not everyone is given their religious holidays off like Christmas and Easter are, so imagine wanting to be with family on a holiday on 3 personal days.

How much annual leave do you get?

10 month employees receive 10 sick days each academic year. However, if you belong to the Sick Bank (which most employees do), two of those days are donated back to the Sick Bank. Therefore, most employees receive eight additional sick days per academic year.

So 8 sick days, plus 3 personal days, and nothing else?

Well a week for spring break, two weeks at Christmas, two or three days at Thanksgiving, And other national holidays during the school year

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So you get Covid you go to work sick?? I see resignations.
I will take off sick if I get Covid. Not putting my health or recovery at risk for work from home administrators.

No, you use your existing sick leave like has been the case for decades with every other illness

This. No more two week paid vacations for popping an asymptomatic positive test. Use sick leave like everyone else.

How much vacation time do you think teachers get?

You get 5 personal days a year.

Cue dcum parents who are furious that teachers might need to take a day off during the school year

It's 3 personal days a year. You can carry over some so that you never have more than 5, but you're only given 3.

And some schools are strict about not using them to extend a 3 day weekend (that's fun for the family wedding on a holiday weekend...) And not everyone is given their religious holidays off like Christmas and Easter are, so imagine wanting to be with family on a holiday on 3 personal days.

How much annual leave do you get?

10 month employees receive 10 sick days each academic year. However, if you belong to the Sick Bank (which most employees do), two of those days are donated back to the Sick Bank. Therefore, most employees receive eight additional sick days per academic year.

So 8 sick days, plus 3 personal days, and nothing else?

Well a week for spring break, two weeks at Christmas, two or three days at Thanksgiving, And other national holidays during the school year

Bingo. Much more overall vacation and sick or personal leave then I get!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So you get Covid you go to work sick?? I see resignations.
I will take off sick if I get Covid. Not putting my health or recovery at risk for work from home administrators.

No, you use your existing sick leave like has been the case for decades with every other illness

This. No more two week paid vacations for popping an asymptomatic positive test. Use sick leave like everyone else.

How much vacation time do you think teachers get?

You get 5 personal days a year.

Cue dcum parents who are furious that teachers might need to take a day off during the school year

It's 3 personal days a year. You can carry over some so that you never have more than 5, but you're only given 3.

And some schools are strict about not using them to extend a 3 day weekend (that's fun for the family wedding on a holiday weekend...) And not everyone is given their religious holidays off like Christmas and Easter are, so imagine wanting to be with family on a holiday on 3 personal days.

How much annual leave do you get?

10 month employees receive 10 sick days each academic year. However, if you belong to the Sick Bank (which most employees do), two of those days are donated back to the Sick Bank. Therefore, most employees receive eight additional sick days per academic year.

So 8 sick days, plus 3 personal days, and nothing else?

Well a week for spring break, two weeks at Christmas, two or three days at Thanksgiving, And other national holidays during the school year

Bingo. Much more overall vacation and sick or personal leave then I get!

Oh, okay. I'll try to schedule my Covid infection to hit during spring break so I don't inconvenience your family.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you get Covid you go to work sick?? I see resignations.
I will take off sick if I get Covid. Not putting my health or recovery at risk for work from home administrators.

No, you use your existing sick leave like has been the case for decades with every other illness

This. No more two week paid vacations for popping an asymptomatic positive test. Use sick leave like everyone else.

How much vacation time do you think teachers get?

You get 5 personal days a year.

Cue dcum parents who are furious that teachers might need to take a day off during the school year

It's 3 personal days a year. You can carry over some so that you never have more than 5, but you're only given 3.

And some schools are strict about not using them to extend a 3 day weekend (that's fun for the family wedding on a holiday weekend...) And not everyone is given their religious holidays off like Christmas and Easter are, so imagine wanting to be with family on a holiday on 3 personal days.

How much annual leave do you get?

10 month employees receive 10 sick days each academic year. However, if you belong to the Sick Bank (which most employees do), two of those days are donated back to the Sick Bank. Therefore, most employees receive eight additional sick days per academic year.

So 8 sick days, plus 3 personal days, and nothing else?

Well a week for spring break, two weeks at Christmas, two or three days at Thanksgiving, And other national holidays during the school year

Bingo. Much more overall vacation and sick or personal leave then I get!

Oh, okay. I'll try to schedule my Covid infection to hit during spring break so I don't inconvenience your family.

Yeah, that poster is an idiot. Ignore them. I'm sure that this leave will be negotiated in a future contract.

However, I have a genuine question. Between COVID leave that was available and the amount of time spent working virtually, wouldn't many teachers who aren't new have amassed a decent amount of sick leave that could be used if you get COVID?

[Anonymous]

I think this issue highlights a bigger issue of inadequate sick leave for teachers and the lack of coverage if they need to take leave. If a teacher is sick, whether it’s COVID or any other illness, they need time and support to recover. In the private sector, staff get leave with no distinction of sick or personal days. Increase the overall number of days, allow unlimited days to roll over year to year, so staff can use leave that they have earned as they need to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think this issue highlights a bigger issue of inadequate sick leave for teachers and the lack of coverage if they need to take leave. If a teacher is sick, whether it’s COVID or any other illness, they need time and support to recover. In the private sector, staff get leave with no distinction of sick or personal days. Increase the overall number of days, allow unlimited days to roll over year to year, so staff can use leave that they have earned as they need to.

I don't know. I agree with the general idea that teachers need leave if they are sick, but I don't agree that there should be more days available for any reason. I'm sorry, but with so many days off and holidays, plus days away from classes for training, teachers taking personal vacations during the school year really shouldn't be common.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So you get Covid you go to work sick?? I see resignations.
I will take off sick if I get Covid. Not putting my health or recovery at risk for work from home administrators.

No, you use your existing sick leave like has been the case for decades with every other illness

This. No more two week paid vacations for popping an asymptomatic positive test. Use sick leave like everyone else.

How much vacation time do you think teachers get?

You get 5 personal days a year.

Cue dcum parents who are furious that teachers might need to take a day off during the school year

It's 3 personal days a year. You can carry over some so that you never have more than 5, but you're only given 3.

And some schools are strict about not using them to extend a 3 day weekend (that's fun for the family wedding on a holiday weekend...) And not everyone is given their religious holidays off like Christmas and Easter are, so imagine wanting to be with family on a holiday on 3 personal days.

How much annual leave do you get?

10 month employees receive 10 sick days each academic year. However, if you belong to the Sick Bank (which most employees do), two of those days are donated back to the Sick Bank. Therefore, most employees receive eight additional sick days per academic year.

So 8 sick days, plus 3 personal days, and nothing else?

Well a week for spring break, two weeks at Christmas, two or three days at Thanksgiving, And other national holidays during the school year

You forgot about the professional days

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So you get Covid you go to work sick?? I see resignations.
I will take off sick if I get Covid. Not putting my health or recovery at risk for work from home administrators.

No, you use your existing sick leave like has been the case for decades with every other illness

This. No more two week paid vacations for popping an asymptomatic positive test. Use sick leave like everyone else.

How much vacation time do you think teachers get?

You get 5 personal days a year.

Cue dcum parents who are furious that teachers might need to take a day off during the school year

It's 3 personal days a year. You can carry over some so that you never have more than 5, but you're only given 3.

And some schools are strict about not using them to extend a 3 day weekend (that's fun for the family wedding on a holiday weekend...) And not everyone is given their religious holidays off like Christmas and Easter are, so imagine wanting to be with family on a holiday on 3 personal days.

How much annual leave do you get?

10 month employees receive 10 sick days each academic year. However, if you belong to the Sick Bank (which most employees do), two of those days are donated back to the Sick Bank. Therefore, most employees receive eight additional sick days per academic year.

So 8 sick days, plus 3 personal days, and nothing else?

Well a week for spring break, two weeks at Christmas, two or three days at Thanksgiving, And other national holidays during the school year

You forgot about the professional days

PD days are days the that teachers spend being professional and working. There is more to what goes into teaching than just being 'live' in front of your students during the hours they are there. When do you think the teachers got their lessons planned and resources ready?