Oberlin and defamation suit interest

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Anonymous wrote:This wasn’t an isolated incident. Oberlin has a long record of idiotic woke BS incidents.

True, but Oberlin's current behavior is even worse that its own long record.

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Anonymous wrote:99 percent of the people opining on this have absolutely no idea what actually went down. (Much like the banh mi story that conservatives freaked out about, which turned out to be completely anodyne and unremarkable.) Oberlin is a very good school that produces some amazing graduates. The fact that the administration mishandled some aspects of the lawsuit isn't even newsworthy except to conservatives trying to cherry-pick examples of a preset narrative. It's not going to hurt employment prospects for grads, because most employers DO NOT CARE about stupid crap like this.

The school was wrong, refuses to pay, and practically put a hard working community family out of business - WTH kind of moral ground is that??

It’s called due process.

Nope. Due process is what the government owes its citizens before depriving them of life or liberty. It shapes criminal procedures not when you settle a civil case or whether you appeal a case when you know you were in the wrong. https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/interpretation/amendment-xiv/clauses/701

Clearly you did not go to law school, because due process absolutely applies in civil matters.

Please enlighten us about how the due process clause requires you to appeal a decision you lost in a civil suit. Idiot pretend lawyer.

They’re not obligated to, but they have the legal right to do so.

But it’s really just a silly discussion because no one cares about this story other than RWNJs.

Really? I just did a search and the most recent decision was covered by pretty much every major newspaper in the country.

Links to recent coverage by WaPo and NYT?

Just a quick, not exhaustive, search for articles in the last few months (& not counting Fox, etc):

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/colleges-should-pay-heedto-oberlins-costly-libel-case/2022/04/07/04c251fe-b680-11ec-8358-20aa16355fb4_story.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/oberlin-college-loses-appeal-ohio-gibsons-bakery-v-woke-pc-cancel-culture-crt-critical-race-theory-libel-emotional-distress-racial-profiling-higher-education-11648829090

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/04/04/oberlin-college-loses-appeal-libel-case-shoplifting-incident/7267704001/

https://apnews.com/article/business-ohio-race-and-ethnicity-cleveland-lorain-f82dbe8cce914817c720eb956ce9ab46

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/appeals-court-upholds-25m-judgment-oberlin-college-83811661

https://www.chronicle.com/article/oberlins-aid-to-student-protesters-led-to-a-32-million-judgment-the-college-just-lost-its-appeal

https://www.bet.com/article/9gca77/oberlin-college-lawsuit-appeal-loss-pay-damages-ohio-bakery

https://www.blackenterprise.com/appeals-court-uphold-33-million-verdict-against-oberlin-college-for-false-racism-accusations/

OP starts one of these threads every few months. Clearly Oberlin is living rent free in his brain.

[Anonymous]

I thought so. OP is getting marching orders from The Daily Mail, which printed a hit piece “Woke College Punished” piece this week. Otherwise, the only reporting on Oberlin lately is stuff like Chamber music concerts and athletic recruits.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10999721/Woke-Oberlin-College-hit-4m-dragging-heels-paying-36m-family-run-bakery.html

Now, this doesn’t answer the question of why a British tabloid care about a Midwestern American SLAC (I think we know the answer to this). But it does explain why OP is convinced that all of Europe hates a college that 99% of the citizens have never heard of.

OP— this random Oberlin hate posting is getting tiresome. Next time you start one of these thread with no actual news backing it up, ai will start ten new threads rehashing 5+ year scandals at various other colleges. Watch this forum for an example of this.

So, get all the Oberlin venom out now. Seriously, let all that anger and outrage out. Getting this upset for this long about something that happened more than 5 years ago at a small Midwestern college you have no connection to can’t be good you.

[Anonymous]

Jacobins being jacobins.

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Anonymous wrote:Go woke and go broke.

Going broke is worth it to them!
Parents can pay up.

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Anonymous wrote:99 percent of the people opining on this have absolutely no idea what actually went down. (Much like the banh mi story that conservatives freaked out about, which turned out to be completely anodyne and unremarkable.) Oberlin is a very good school that produces some amazing graduates. The fact that the administration mishandled some aspects of the lawsuit isn't even newsworthy except to conservatives trying to cherry-pick examples of a preset narrative. It's not going to hurt employment prospects for grads, because most employers DO NOT CARE about stupid crap like this.

The school was wrong, refuses to pay, and practically put a hard working community family out of business - WTH kind of moral ground is that??

It’s called due process.

Nope. Due process is what the government owes its citizens before depriving them of life or liberty. It shapes criminal procedures not when you settle a civil case or whether you appeal a case when you know you were in the wrong. https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/interpretation/amendment-xiv/clauses/701

Clearly you did not go to law school, because due process absolutely applies in civil matters.

Please enlighten us about how the due process clause requires you to appeal a decision you lost in a civil suit. Idiot pretend lawyer.

They’re not obligated to, but they have the legal right to do so.

But it’s really just a silly discussion because no one cares about this story other than RWNJs.

Really? I just did a search and the most recent decision was covered by pretty much every major newspaper in the country.

Links to recent coverage by WaPo and NYT?

Just a quick, not exhaustive, search for articles in the last few months (& not counting Fox, etc):

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/colleges-should-pay-heedto-oberlins-costly-libel-case/2022/04/07/04c251fe-b680-11ec-8358-20aa16355fb4_story.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/oberlin-college-loses-appeal-ohio-gibsons-bakery-v-woke-pc-cancel-culture-crt-critical-race-theory-libel-emotional-distress-racial-profiling-higher-education-11648829090

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/04/04/oberlin-college-loses-appeal-libel-case-shoplifting-incident/7267704001/

https://apnews.com/article/business-ohio-race-and-ethnicity-cleveland-lorain-f82dbe8cce914817c720eb956ce9ab46

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/appeals-court-upholds-25m-judgment-oberlin-college-83811661

https://www.chronicle.com/article/oberlins-aid-to-student-protesters-led-to-a-32-million-judgment-the-college-just-lost-its-appeal

https://www.bet.com/article/9gca77/oberlin-college-lawsuit-appeal-loss-pay-damages-ohio-bakery

https://www.blackenterprise.com/appeals-court-uphold-33-million-verdict-against-oberlin-college-for-false-racism-accusations/

Those are from months ago, not recent.

“MoNThs AgO!” You mean *3* months (or less) ago? That’s “recent,” when we’re talking about an incident that happened 4 years ago.

PP said “only RWNJs” care about this story. They need to just admit they (you?) were wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:99 percent of the people opining on this have absolutely no idea what actually went down. (Much like the banh mi story that conservatives freaked out about, which turned out to be completely anodyne and unremarkable.) Oberlin is a very good school that produces some amazing graduates. The fact that the administration mishandled some aspects of the lawsuit isn't even newsworthy except to conservatives trying to cherry-pick examples of a preset narrative. It's not going to hurt employment prospects for grads, because most employers DO NOT CARE about stupid crap like this.

The school was wrong, refuses to pay, and practically put a hard working community family out of business - WTH kind of moral ground is that??

It’s called due process.

Nope. Due process is what the government owes its citizens before depriving them of life or liberty. It shapes criminal procedures not when you settle a civil case or whether you appeal a case when you know you were in the wrong. https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/interpretation/amendment-xiv/clauses/701

Clearly you did not go to law school, because due process absolutely applies in civil matters.

Please enlighten us about how the due process clause requires you to appeal a decision you lost in a civil suit. Idiot pretend lawyer.

They’re not obligated to, but they have the legal right to do so.

But it’s really just a silly discussion because no one cares about this story other than RWNJs.

Really? I just did a search and the most recent decision was covered by pretty much every major newspaper in the country.

Links to recent coverage by WaPo and NYT?

Just a quick, not exhaustive, search for articles in the last few months (& not counting Fox, etc):

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/colleges-should-pay-heedto-oberlins-costly-libel-case/2022/04/07/04c251fe-b680-11ec-8358-20aa16355fb4_story.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/oberlin-college-loses-appeal-ohio-gibsons-bakery-v-woke-pc-cancel-culture-crt-critical-race-theory-libel-emotional-distress-racial-profiling-higher-education-11648829090

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/04/04/oberlin-college-loses-appeal-libel-case-shoplifting-incident/7267704001/

https://apnews.com/article/business-ohio-race-and-ethnicity-cleveland-lorain-f82dbe8cce914817c720eb956ce9ab46

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/appeals-court-upholds-25m-judgment-oberlin-college-83811661

https://www.chronicle.com/article/oberlins-aid-to-student-protesters-led-to-a-32-million-judgment-the-college-just-lost-its-appeal

https://www.bet.com/article/9gca77/oberlin-college-lawsuit-appeal-loss-pay-damages-ohio-bakery

https://www.blackenterprise.com/appeals-court-uphold-33-million-verdict-against-oberlin-college-for-false-racism-accusations/

OP starts one of these threads every few months. Clearly Oberlin is living rent free in his brain.

LOL. That’s the best you can do?

I posted the above list and I’m not OP.

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Anonymous wrote:99 percent of the people opining on this have absolutely no idea what actually went down. (Much like the banh mi story that conservatives freaked out about, which turned out to be completely anodyne and unremarkable.) Oberlin is a very good school that produces some amazing graduates. The fact that the administration mishandled some aspects of the lawsuit isn't even newsworthy except to conservatives trying to cherry-pick examples of a preset narrative. It's not going to hurt employment prospects for grads, because most employers DO NOT CARE about stupid crap like this.

The school was wrong, refuses to pay, and practically put a hard working community family out of business - WTH kind of moral ground is that??

It’s called due process.

Nope. Due process is what the government owes its citizens before depriving them of life or liberty. It shapes criminal procedures not when you settle a civil case or whether you appeal a case when you know you were in the wrong. https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/interpretation/amendment-xiv/clauses/701

Clearly you did not go to law school, because due process absolutely applies in civil matters.

Please enlighten us about how the due process clause requires you to appeal a decision you lost in a civil suit. Idiot pretend lawyer.

They’re not obligated to, but they have the legal right to do so.

But it’s really just a silly discussion because no one cares about this story other than RWNJs.

Really? I just did a search and the most recent decision was covered by pretty much every major newspaper in the country.

Links to recent coverage by WaPo and NYT?

Just a quick, not exhaustive, search for articles in the last few months (& not counting Fox, etc):

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/colleges-should-pay-heedto-oberlins-costly-libel-case/2022/04/07/04c251fe-b680-11ec-8358-20aa16355fb4_story.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/oberlin-college-loses-appeal-ohio-gibsons-bakery-v-woke-pc-cancel-culture-crt-critical-race-theory-libel-emotional-distress-racial-profiling-higher-education-11648829090

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/04/04/oberlin-college-loses-appeal-libel-case-shoplifting-incident/7267704001/

https://apnews.com/article/business-ohio-race-and-ethnicity-cleveland-lorain-f82dbe8cce914817c720eb956ce9ab46

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/appeals-court-upholds-25m-judgment-oberlin-college-83811661

https://www.chronicle.com/article/oberlins-aid-to-student-protesters-led-to-a-32-million-judgment-the-college-just-lost-its-appeal

https://www.bet.com/article/9gca77/oberlin-college-lawsuit-appeal-loss-pay-damages-ohio-bakery

https://www.blackenterprise.com/appeals-court-uphold-33-million-verdict-against-oberlin-college-for-false-racism-accusations/

Those are from months ago, not recent.

“MoNThs AgO!” You mean *3* months (or less) ago? That’s “recent,” when we’re talking about an incident that happened 4 years ago.

PP said “only RWNJs” care about this story. They need to just admit they (you?) were wrong.

No one but rags like Daily Mail appears to be covering the interest piece, which is what this thread is about. Are you having trouble staying on topic?

[Anonymous]

Still haven’t seen any evidence this is hurting Oberlin in terms of applications, ranking, employment for graduates, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:This wasn’t an isolated incident. Oberlin has a long record of idiotic woke BS incidents.

True, but Oberlin's current behavior is even worse that its own long record.

True.

[Anonymous]

The Ohio Supreme Court refused to hear Oberlin's appeal, and the college owes $36 million to the Gibsons. The college has still not admitted they or their administrators did any thing wrong, and may choose to try to appeal to federal court in their continuing effort to exhaust the resources of the Gibson family.

The $36 million doesn’t include Oberlin’s own legal fees. The total cost is probably more than half of the college’s total annual budget. It’s amazing that the college has chosen this path when an apology early on would have made the case go away.

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2022/08/ohio-supreme-court-rejects-oberlin-colleges-appeal-of-36-million-defamation-verdict.html

Here’s a few articles from “National” sources for those who want to say it’s a “non-story:”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/court-wont-hear-appeal-in-oberlin-college-25m-judgment/2022/08/30/42de1850-288c-11ed-a90a-fce4015dfc8f_story.html


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oberlin-court-wont-hear-appeal-in-25-million-judgment/

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Anonymous wrote:The Ohio Supreme Court refused to hear Oberlin's appeal, and the college owes $36 million to the Gibsons. The college has still not admitted they or their administrators did any thing wrong, and may choose to try to appeal to federal court in their continuing effort to exhaust the resources of the Gibson family.

The $36 million doesn’t include Oberlin’s own legal fees. The total cost is probably more than half of the college’s total annual budget. It’s amazing that the college has chosen this path when an apology early on would have made the case go away.

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2022/08/ohio-supreme-court-rejects-oberlin-colleges-appeal-of-36-million-defamation-verdict.html

Here’s a few articles from “National” sources for those who want to say it’s a “non-story:”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/court-wont-hear-appeal-in-oberlin-college-25m-judgment/2022/08/30/42de1850-288c-11ed-a90a-fce4015dfc8f_story.html


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oberlin-court-wont-hear-appeal-in-25-million-judgment/

Oberlin’s insurance carrier paid the legal fees.

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How often is this person going to keep starting threads on this? So weird you can't move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Go woke and go broke.

The faster the better to minimize collateral damage.

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Anonymous wrote:99 percent of the people opining on this have absolutely no idea what actually went down. (Much like the banh mi story that conservatives freaked out about, which turned out to be completely anodyne and unremarkable.) Oberlin is a very good school that produces some amazing graduates. The fact that the administration mishandled some aspects of the lawsuit isn't even newsworthy except to conservatives trying to cherry-pick examples of a preset narrative. It's not going to hurt employment prospects for grads, because most employers DO NOT CARE about stupid crap like this.

X a million, all of this.

But, hey, this thread gives a certain segment the opportunity to express faux outrage and use the word "woke" today. So, I guess this is a good day for them.