DP. Not the one to whom you're responding. The original post was about whether this suit might affect employment prospects for Oberlin grads. Not about whether Oberlin was in the wrong or not. No, this suit isn't likely to affect grads' prospects with any employer who hires individuals based on their specific skills, educational achievements and potential for succeeding with the employer's company. Those things have nothing to do with events that took place before current students were even at the college. Any employer who would reject a candidate based on this suit is not an employer for which an Oberlin grad, or any other intelligent student, would want to work anyway. |
| Now PP is expert on hiring as well |
I am an Oberlin grad and you are not. And, your post is wrong. |
+1 As an alum I am disgusted. This is not the college I attended. |
Most have parents with deep pockets and Michigan is less than 2 hours away. |
Wow! What a non-answer.. I'm nowhere close to a conservative, have always voted Democrat and use the term "woke" when it is appropriate (and it is in several circumstances). |
+1. It's so funny how the right continue to chum the water by rehashing the Oberlin case, but didn't have one word to say about Liberty University's salacious scandal. |
It’s called due process. |
Nope. Due process is what the government owes its citizens before depriving them of life or liberty. It shapes criminal procedures not when you settle a civil case or whether you appeal a case when you know you were in the wrong. https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/interpretation/amendment-xiv/clauses/701 |
| You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think this and a string of other idiotic missteps by the college will not impact oberlin grada in the workforce. Even unconscious bias can impact hiring decisions. |
Clearly you did not go to law school, because due process absolutely applies in civil matters. |
The original incident was over 5 years ago and the verdict was three years ago. What evidence is there that this has harmed Oberlin graduates? No one is paying attention to it anymore other that RWNJ news sites. |
The incident took place just after Trump was elected. So, fall 2015. We’re heading into seven years. The President and involved faculty were replaced. The student body has completely turned over— almost twice. Some SLACs were in person during COVID but had student and teachers being pressured not to attend class (ahhmm Haverford and Bryn Mwar). Some had nasty protests. Some big name colleges (Michigan State, The Ohio State, Penn State some UCs) had serious sex abuse scandals. UNC was handing out degrees to athletes who did literally no academic work. Mitch Daniels is a loud and proud mysogenist at Purdue. Those kids you would hire. But yes, an Oberlin protest 6-7 years ago is where you draw the line.
You don’t have to like Oberlin. The students aren’t applying to work for MAGA anyway. But, OP should honest about the fact that this “scandal” they trot out every couple of months is Faux News generated outrage way out of proportion in 2022. You know what else Oberlin did in the past? First college to racially integrate, first college to admit men one women on the same terms. Stop on the Underground Railroad. That’s their past as well. |
Have spent two months in Europe and I can tell you something similar has happened here. The only people who have heard about Oberlin think the school has gone all nuts. |
I just spent four weeks in Europe with my Obie and her sibling. And 95%+ of the people there have never heard of Oberlin (or W&M where my older kid goes. Sad to say UVA boosters that the blank looks continued when she said it was an in state college like UVA. Europe doesn’t care about UVA either). They asked if DDs was in college. She said yes, Oberlin. Blank look. There was one younger guy who was excited about DD’s Oberlin t-shirt because a high school friend had attended. There was an American guy who gave her the thumbs up because his grandson is an Obie. And because of the nature of our activities, we did run into a few people who knew of the Conservatory. That’s it. I guarantee you that Europeans do not care about 99% of colleges, including but not limited to W&M and Oberlin. Which is fine. My Obie is getting a first rate science education, working as a research assistant, getting published and networking with visiting profs. She doesn’t need Europeans to have heard of Oberlin. She needs PhD labs to know the name. Based on the fact 60% of her department gets a PhD and the list always includes big names and national awards like Fulbrights, she’ll be fine. |