DC Mayor - who to vote for

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I like schools open and Robert white would still have them closed, so bowser it is.


Same.


This is a tired and misleading trope. Instead of people giving Bowser credit for "reopening schools", she should be held accountable for the total sh*tshow that virtual learning was. She had her DCPS folks literally lying in Council oversight hearings about how everything was going great, when in actuality kids were doing worksheets for months and there weren't enough laptops/devices for students. The Council wanted to know that school buildings would actually be covid-safe places before sending people back into them. And a reminder that, while some of you were itching to get your kids back to in-person learning, a majority of DCPS families wanted to continue virtual. Blame Bowser and DCPS for not figuring out how to effectively achieve hybrid learning or having some schools in person while others remained virtual. Don't blame Robert White for Bowser's mess.

I'm a Ward 3 public school parent, and Robert White has my vote all the way!



He wanted to keep schools closed longer! Robert White is out of touch.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Bowser is sadly the least worst


That should be her slogan
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like schools open and Robert white would still have them closed, so bowser it is.


Same.


This is a tired and misleading trope. Instead of people giving Bowser credit for "reopening schools", she should be held accountable for the total sh*tshow that virtual learning was. She had her DCPS folks literally lying in Council oversight hearings about how everything was going great, when in actuality kids were doing worksheets for months and there weren't enough laptops/devices for students. The Council wanted to know that school buildings would actually be covid-safe places before sending people back into them. And a reminder that, while some of you were itching to get your kids back to in-person learning, a majority of DCPS families wanted to continue virtual. Blame Bowser and DCPS for not figuring out how to effectively achieve hybrid learning or having some schools in person while others remained virtual. Don't blame Robert White for Bowser's mess.

I'm a Ward 3 public school parent, and Robert White has my vote all the way!


There's another entity that had a lot to do with school reopening, and also hindered school reopening. That entity supports R. White.

Bowser ain't perfect and certainly should have pushed harder against that unnamed entity, but R. White would have continued school closures even longer. As he proposed to do in 2022.
Anonymous
So developing the city and bringing more housing and retail is bad?! I am dying for Walter Reed and Wegman’s to open.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would like a mayor that is tough on crime, and not scared to arrest and jail violent criminals, someone who is beholden to developers because it’s clear they turned the city around since it faced utter decay under folks like Marion Berry, and someone who will cater to UMC parents who would consider sending their kids to DC public schools.

I literally do not care how antithetical that may be to the values of the vast majority of progressive, urban, city dwellers who make their home in this town. I do too and it’s clear that they’re misguided altruism and desires for the same types of progressive policies as other major cities don’t work. Look at San Francisco and its recall of Chesa Boudin or its ultra progressive school board members. I just want common sense, bread and butter stuff.

If someone car jacks or mugs someone, arrest them and put them in prison, don’t release them in perpetuity back to the streets.

If a child is showing advanced ability in math, allow them to thrive in an ap class, don’t stick them with remedial learners who would retard their progress.

If building luxury condos, dog parks, roof decks, pop ups and the like increase home values, so be it. Let the market work as it should. Chill out on all the rent control and DCRA bureaucracy as well.

It’s pretty simple. But, as studies show, humans are biologically programmed to root for the underdog, so anything I say is met with reflexive shock. How can this poster be so cruel!!!?? Think of the poor families…no dude, if people can’t hack it, they can move like everyone else. We should have some to of social safety net, but not tons of ineffective programs funded in perpetuity that show no signs of abating poverty. I like the paid leave proposals for maternity leave and some summer jobs stuff, but seriously we can’t subsidize the same generations of families in projects in perpetuity and claim it’s unfair no to.


Although I find this perspective repellent, I appreciate PP laying out there in all its insular, racist, misinformed glory. It represents a real and not uncommon set of beliefs that people who watch a lot of cable news (not just Fox) believe. A lot of wealthy white people don’t like seeing homeless people, conflate homelessness with crime, and believe that violent crime is surging when in fact it remains at historically low rates.

The San Francisco example is instructive. Homicide and violent crime rates are actually down there, while property crimes are up. Obviously, property crimes affect quality of life, but the idea that SF is some violent hellscape is completely unsupported by facts. And to the extent that property crimes are up, it’s funny how progressive DAs and policies get the blame, but no one wants to talk about the incredibly low rates of crime-solving by police. If you’re interested in data and a balanced look at this, check out this article: https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Chesa-Boudin-San-Francisco-crime-statistics-recall-16268178.php



Thank you for your perspective. I agree my post isn’t for everyone. It comes across as jaded, lacking in optimism and cynical.

I accept that. However, having grown up and lived in crime filled parts of this town, i have no issue with what I wrote.

I also question your claims of falling crime rates. That’s flat out wrong, but I don’t have two hours to spit out recent crime trends from statistical charts for you.

Also, my post wasn’t racist, that was you projecting. In fact, the burden is on you to specifically identify which parts you claim as racist. This isn’t a game of darts where you can just lob out unhelpful accusation of racism. Explain.


Also, I don’t watch Fox News. I read the Atlantic, the economist, wapo, nytimes, watch pbs, and other world newspapers. And yes, I associate crime with homeslessness because logically the link can be easily drawn. There are large homeless encampments in San Francisco and DC and there are major issues associated with those encampments. It seems like you’re willfully obtuse on that issue.

Overall, I just liked seeing the city organically move toward more prosperity under mayors like Fenry and Adrian Williams, folks who supported development. It seems like you’re some kind of social crusader, who probably lives in bethesda, and benefited from the real estate appreciation and reduction in crime from 1999-present, but doesn’t seem to recognize the prime drivers of those benefits or that they derive from new construction, jobs and a generally more liveable city.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like schools open and Robert white would still have them closed, so bowser it is.


Same.


This is a tired and misleading trope. Instead of people giving Bowser credit for "reopening schools", she should be held accountable for the total sh*tshow that virtual learning was. She had her DCPS folks literally lying in Council oversight hearings about how everything was going great, when in actuality kids were doing worksheets for months and there weren't enough laptops/devices for students. The Council wanted to know that school buildings would actually be covid-safe places before sending people back into them. And a reminder that, while some of you were itching to get your kids back to in-person learning, a majority of DCPS families wanted to continue virtual. Blame Bowser and DCPS for not figuring out how to effectively achieve hybrid learning or having some schools in person while others remained virtual. Don't blame Robert White for Bowser's mess.

I'm a Ward 3 public school parent, and Robert White has my vote all the way!


I don't know that anyone is giving her credit for opening schools, but it is a fact that R. White tried to shut down schools this academic year. Bowser did not.

Also, no school district in this country figured out hybrid learning in a way that wasn't terribly disruptive, so thinking that Bowser could have come up with some answer that literally no one else did is silly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So developing the city and bringing more housing and retail is bad?! I am dying for Walter Reed and Wegman’s to open.


No, that's generally not the issue, at least from my perspective. It's failing to enforce the Building Code, leaving victims all over the place. Bowser opposed and fought the council's plan to try to clean up DCRA and create an enforcement arm.
Anonymous
Robert White is an extremist on school closures. If you think schools werent closed nearly long enough, he's your guy. He proposed legislation that would have forced schools to close for most of THIS YEAR.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like schools open and Robert white would still have them closed, so bowser it is.


Same.


This is a tired and misleading trope. Instead of people giving Bowser credit for "reopening schools", she should be held accountable for the total sh*tshow that virtual learning was. She had her DCPS folks literally lying in Council oversight hearings about how everything was going great, when in actuality kids were doing worksheets for months and there weren't enough laptops/devices for students. The Council wanted to know that school buildings would actually be covid-safe places before sending people back into them. And a reminder that, while some of you were itching to get your kids back to in-person learning, a majority of DCPS families wanted to continue virtual. Blame Bowser and DCPS for not figuring out how to effectively achieve hybrid learning or having some schools in person while others remained virtual. Don't blame Robert White for Bowser's mess.

I'm a Ward 3 public school parent, and Robert White has my vote all the way!


virtual was *always* going to be a sh-t show - laptops were not the problem! the problem is that kids can’t learn that way. bowser did what she could to reopen; unions fought her every step; and R White wanted to continue closures INTO 2022.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Robert White is an extremist on school closures. If you think schools werent closed nearly long enough, he's your guy. He proposed legislation that would have forced schools to close for most of THIS YEAR.


I still cannot get over that
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Robert White is an extremist on school closures. If you think schools werent closed nearly long enough, he's your guy. He proposed legislation that would have forced schools to close for most of THIS YEAR.


I still cannot get over that



I don't love Bowser but Robert White is a nut job. She benefits by having completely unqualified challengers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would like a mayor that is tough on crime, and not scared to arrest and jail violent criminals, someone who is beholden to developers because it’s clear they turned the city around since it faced utter decay under folks like Marion Berry, and someone who will cater to UMC parents who would consider sending their kids to DC public schools.

I literally do not care how antithetical that may be to the values of the vast majority of progressive, urban, city dwellers who make their home in this town. I do too and it’s clear that they’re misguided altruism and desires for the same types of progressive policies as other major cities don’t work. Look at San Francisco and its recall of Chesa Boudin or its ultra progressive school board members. I just want common sense, bread and butter stuff.

If someone car jacks or mugs someone, arrest them and put them in prison, don’t release them in perpetuity back to the streets.

If a child is showing advanced ability in math, allow them to thrive in an ap class, don’t stick them with remedial learners who would retard their progress.

If building luxury condos, dog parks, roof decks, pop ups and the like increase home values, so be it. Let the market work as it should. Chill out on all the rent control and DCRA bureaucracy as well.

It’s pretty simple. But, as studies show, humans are biologically programmed to root for the underdog, so anything I say is met with reflexive shock. How can this poster be so cruel!!!?? Think of the poor families…no dude, if people can’t hack it, they can move like everyone else. We should have some to of social safety net, but not tons of ineffective programs funded in perpetuity that show no signs of abating poverty. I like the paid leave proposals for maternity leave and some summer jobs stuff, but seriously we can’t subsidize the same generations of families in projects in perpetuity and claim it’s unfair no to.


Although I find this perspective repellent, I appreciate PP laying out there in all its insular, racist, misinformed glory. It represents a real and not uncommon set of beliefs that people who watch a lot of cable news (not just Fox) believe. A lot of wealthy white people don’t like seeing homeless people, conflate homelessness with crime, and believe that violent crime is surging when in fact it remains at historically low rates.

The San Francisco example is instructive. Homicide and violent crime rates are actually down there, while property crimes are up. Obviously, property crimes affect quality of life, but the idea that SF is some violent hellscape is completely unsupported by facts. And to the extent that property crimes are up, it’s funny how progressive DAs and policies get the blame, but no one wants to talk about the incredibly low rates of crime-solving by police. If you’re interested in data and a balanced look at this, check out this article: https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Chesa-Boudin-San-Francisco-crime-statistics-recall-16268178.php



Thank you for your perspective. I agree my post isn’t for everyone. It comes across as jaded, lacking in optimism and cynical.

I accept that. However, having grown up and lived in crime filled parts of this town, i have no issue with what I wrote.

I also question your claims of falling crime rates. That’s flat out wrong, but I don’t have two hours to spit out recent crime trends from statistical charts for you.

Also, my post wasn’t racist, that was you projecting. In fact, the burden is on you to specifically identify which parts you claim as racist. This isn’t a game of darts where you can just lob out unhelpful accusation of racism. Explain.


Also, I don’t watch Fox News. I read the Atlantic, the economist, wapo, nytimes, watch pbs, and other world newspapers. And yes, I associate crime with homeslessness because logically the link can be easily drawn. There are large homeless encampments in San Francisco and DC and there are major issues associated with those encampments. It seems like you’re willfully obtuse on that issue.

Overall, I just liked seeing the city organically move toward more prosperity under mayors like Fenry and Adrian Williams, folks who supported development. It seems like you’re some kind of social crusader, who probably lives in bethesda, and benefited from the real estate appreciation and reduction in crime from 1999-present, but doesn’t seem to recognize the prime drivers of those benefits or that they derive from new construction, jobs and a generally more liveable city.


You haven’t pointed to a single piece of evidence to support anything you believe; it’s all vibes. I mean:

I also question your claims of falling crime rates. That’s flat out wrong, but I don’t have two hours to spit out recent crime trends from statistical charts for you.


And

And yes, I associate crime with homeslessness because logically the link can be easily drawn. There are large homeless encampments in San Francisco and DC and there are major issues associated with those encampments.


And

Overall, I just liked seeing the city organically move toward more prosperity under mayors like Fenry and Adrian Williams, folks who supported development

LOL. I know you think you’re rational, but when you scratch the surface it’s just about how you *feel* and inferences that you make based on your priors. That’s fine! Everyone is entitled to vote based on how they feel. But don’t pretend that you’re operating based on facts or logic.
Anonymous
I'm voting for T. White. I can't stand Bowser and I don't trust R. White at all.
Anonymous
Oh yes:

Overall, I just liked seeing the city organically move toward more prosperity under mayors like Fenry and Adrian Williams, folks who supported development
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm voting for T. White. I can't stand Bowser and I don't trust R. White at all.

A lot of people will be surprised when T. White does better than R. White, but I won’t.
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