Democrats for Education Reform (Bowser, Goulet etc)

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Anonymous wrote:To be clear, I am the previous poster talking about Goulet accepting an illegal in-kind contribution.

I do not remotely support the WTU. (One of Laura Fuchs' nastier tweets was about me, directly after I spoke at a public meeting.)

Don't conflate distrust of Goulet and disdain for his campaign's (illegal) tactics with support for the WTU.

FWIW, I'm a DCPS teacher and not particularly a WTU supporter, but Laura Fuchs is not synonymous with what teachers think. She's just the loudest voice. I do support public education and dislike what DFER stands for, but I don't think its very productive to make this a WTU vs. DFER discussion

It would be useful for OP to come back and explain how DFER is "right wing", as they claim. I can't understand who would be making that claim beyond XXX group.

I’m not OP, but DFER’s campaign mailers against Janeese Lewis George in 2020 almost exclusively talked about how she wanted to defund MPD. We were receiving them daily. Seemed bizarre for an education-focused organization to harp on her beliefs about police reforms.

How is a group not staying in their lane "right wing"?

I think portraying a candidate who supports criminal justice reforms as wanting to defund MPD as pretty right-wing. Especially considering this was before the murder of George Floyd and the widespread adoption of “Defund the Police”.

No there were a ton of discussions about JLG's thoughts on policing, when she was running for election. I don't know if the phrase "defund the police" was used by her (although I think I recall it was in a tweet of her's at one point, at least), but her views on police reform were a big topic of debate. But I also don't recall the specific flyers, so I don't know if the flyers used the phrase "defend the police" either.

(JLG's beliefs about policing are off-topic, anyway. A poster is trying to say that DFER describing her stances means that DFER is right-wing, which doesn't seem accurate.)

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Union-busting is a right wing goal. Do you really think we're better off if teachers are not unionized like in charter schools? I know several current & former charter school teachers. There is some awful stuff that happens in the school and no recourse for them. It's bad for the kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Union-busting is a right wing goal. Do you really think we're better off if teachers are not unionized like in charter schools? I know several current & former charter school teachers. There is some awful stuff that happens in the school and no recourse for them. It's bad for the kids.

eh, I'm not for no unions, but having been a union organizer and a union member, there are definitely corrupt unions. Unions aren't 100% great.

The history of education in DC suggests that the teachers union hasn't been precisely stellar at advancing kids' educations. I'm not saying charters are way better, but at least it's an attempt at SOMETHING different.

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Anonymous wrote:Union-busting is a right wing goal. Do you really think we're better off if teachers are not unionized like in charter schools? I know several current & former charter school teachers. There is some awful stuff that happens in the school and no recourse for them. It's bad for the kids.

eh, I'm not for no unions, but having been a union organizer and a union member, there are definitely corrupt unions. Unions aren't 100% great.

The history of education in DC suggests that the teachers union hasn't been precisely stellar at advancing kids' educations. I'm not saying charters are way better, but at least it's an attempt at SOMETHING different.

I don't get why it's charter vs. union. We can always have unions. Charter schools can balance out centralized bureaucracy.

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Anonymous wrote:Union-busting is a right wing goal. Do you really think we're better off if teachers are not unionized like in charter schools? I know several current & former charter school teachers. There is some awful stuff that happens in the school and no recourse for them. It's bad for the kids.

eh, I'm not for no unions, but having been a union organizer and a union member, there are definitely corrupt unions. Unions aren't 100% great.

The history of education in DC suggests that the teachers union hasn't been precisely stellar at advancing kids' educations. I'm not saying charters are way better, but at least it's an attempt at SOMETHING different.

I don't get why it's charter vs. union. We can always have unions. Charter schools can balance out centralized bureaucracy.

Agree. Charter teachers can unionize; at least one charter in DC has.

So it doesn't seem correct that advocating for school choice = "union-busting".

Also, by the sound of it, a bunch of DCPS teachers hate their own union, so I don't know that the union is serving the teachers, either. (I don't believe they are serving children, since that is not their goal.)

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Anonymous wrote:Union-busting is a right wing goal. Do you really think we're better off if teachers are not unionized like in charter schools? I know several current & former charter school teachers. There is some awful stuff that happens in the school and no recourse for them. It's bad for the kids.

eh, I'm not for no unions, but having been a union organizer and a union member, there are definitely corrupt unions. Unions aren't 100% great.

The history of education in DC suggests that the teachers union hasn't been precisely stellar at advancing kids' educations. I'm not saying charters are way better, but at least it's an attempt at SOMETHING different.

I don't get why it's charter vs. union. We can always have unions. Charter schools can balance out centralized bureaucracy.

Agree. Charter teachers can unionize; at least one charter in DC has.

So it doesn't seem correct that advocating for school choice = "union-busting".

Also, by the sound of it, a bunch of DCPS teachers hate their own union, so I don't know that the union is serving the teachers, either. (I don't believe they are serving children, since that is not their goal.)

That's pretty speculative. Remember the charter school that chose to shut down when the teachers voted to unionize? It was named after Cesar Chavez also. Would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

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Anonymous wrote:Union-busting is a right wing goal. Do you really think we're better off if teachers are not unionized like in charter schools? I know several current & former charter school teachers. There is some awful stuff that happens in the school and no recourse for them. It's bad for the kids.

eh, I'm not for no unions, but having been a union organizer and a union member, there are definitely corrupt unions. Unions aren't 100% great.

The history of education in DC suggests that the teachers union hasn't been precisely stellar at advancing kids' educations. I'm not saying charters are way better, but at least it's an attempt at SOMETHING different.

I don't get why it's charter vs. union. We can always have unions. Charter schools can balance out centralized bureaucracy.

Agree. Charter teachers can unionize; at least one charter in DC has.

So it doesn't seem correct that advocating for school choice = "union-busting".

Also, by the sound of it, a bunch of DCPS teachers hate their own union, so I don't know that the union is serving the teachers, either. (I don't believe they are serving children, since that is not their goal.)

That's pretty speculative. Remember the charter school that chose to shut down when the teachers voted to unionize? It was named after Cesar Chavez also. Would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

No, I don't know of that charter. There's a Cesar Chavez PCS that is still in operation, but I don't know if it is unionized. It doesn't seem to have closed, as you suggest. The one that I know is currently unionized is Mundo Verde.

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Anonymous wrote:Union-busting is a right wing goal. Do you really think we're better off if teachers are not unionized like in charter schools? I know several current & former charter school teachers. There is some awful stuff that happens in the school and no recourse for them. It's bad for the kids.

eh, I'm not for no unions, but having been a union organizer and a union member, there are definitely corrupt unions. Unions aren't 100% great.

The history of education in DC suggests that the teachers union hasn't been precisely stellar at advancing kids' educations. I'm not saying charters are way better, but at least it's an attempt at SOMETHING different.

I don't get why it's charter vs. union. We can always have unions. Charter schools can balance out centralized bureaucracy.

Agree. Charter teachers can unionize; at least one charter in DC has.

So it doesn't seem correct that advocating for school choice = "union-busting".

Also, by the sound of it, a bunch of DCPS teachers hate their own union, so I don't know that the union is serving the teachers, either. (I don't believe they are serving children, since that is not their goal.)

That's pretty speculative. Remember the charter school that chose to shut down when the teachers voted to unionize? It was named after Cesar Chavez also. Would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

No, I don't know of that charter. There's a Cesar Chavez PCS that is still in operation, but I don't know if it is unionized. It doesn't seem to have closed, as you suggest. The one that I know is currently unionized is Mundo Verde.

https://wamu.org/story/19/01/24/d-c-s-only-unionized-charter-school-faces-an-abrupt-closure/

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Anonymous wrote:Union-busting is a right wing goal. Do you really think we're better off if teachers are not unionized like in charter schools? I know several current & former charter school teachers. There is some awful stuff that happens in the school and no recourse for them. It's bad for the kids.

eh, I'm not for no unions, but having been a union organizer and a union member, there are definitely corrupt unions. Unions aren't 100% great.

The history of education in DC suggests that the teachers union hasn't been precisely stellar at advancing kids' educations. I'm not saying charters are way better, but at least it's an attempt at SOMETHING different.

I don't get why it's charter vs. union. We can always have unions. Charter schools can balance out centralized bureaucracy.

Agree. Charter teachers can unionize; at least one charter in DC has.

So it doesn't seem correct that advocating for school choice = "union-busting".

Also, by the sound of it, a bunch of DCPS teachers hate their own union, so I don't know that the union is serving the teachers, either. (I don't believe they are serving children, since that is not their goal.)

That's pretty speculative. Remember the charter school that chose to shut down when the teachers voted to unionize? It was named after Cesar Chavez also. Would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

No, I don't know of that charter. There's a Cesar Chavez PCS that is still in operation, but I don't know if it is unionized. It doesn't seem to have closed, as you suggest. The one that I know is currently unionized is Mundo Verde.

https://wamu.org/story/19/01/24/d-c-s-only-unionized-charter-school-faces-an-abrupt-closure/

Ah, it looks like Cesar Chavez Prep just consolidated, hence why I see it as still existing. It sounds like it was a mess.

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Anonymous wrote:Getting back to the poll, it's pretty funny that the poll was basically single digits for most candidates, and everyone undecided. I could've told them that!

Whether they were also testing messages who knows. I don't think anyone needs to be told that schools matter in Ward 3.

(Also funny is that candidates talk to TK, who recorded his call!)

They were message testing too. And that they is indeed DFER.

And he recorded it for a reason. He knew what he was going to hear. Nothing was accidental or lucky there.

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Anonymous wrote:Dfer is the group that conducted the poll that was shared illegally and privately with Goulet. It included questions about which messages test best.

If they shared those results with him -- and he admits other results were shared -- they likely had a giant impact on this race.

Goulet is dirty and if he wins a large part of it is because of illegal campaing contributions.

Do you have
1) any description of what you're talking about regarding an illegal poll? Why is taking a poll illegal?
2) an evidence regarding your accusations about illegal contributions?

1) Taking a poll is legal. Sharing private poll results not in the public domain with a candidate is an illegal in-kind contribution. Likely entails illegal coordination too.
2) The WCP reported (https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/558653/eric-goulet-says-hes-seen-a-poll-in-the-ward-3-race-hes-telling-shifting-stories-about-how-he-got-it/) that there was a recording of Goulet saying someone called him to give him the poll results.

Wow the connection to DFER is all rumor.

I see the DFER social media team has arrived.

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(Also funny is that candidates talk to TK, who recorded his call!)

What I got out of that is that Goulet is easily baited and poorly disciplined. A loose cannon.

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Anonymous wrote:Getting back to the poll, it's pretty funny that the poll was basically single digits for most candidates, and everyone undecided. I could've told them that!

Whether they were also testing messages who knows. I don't think anyone needs to be told that schools matter in Ward 3.

(Also funny is that candidates talk to TK, who recorded his call!)

Yeah the whole poll info sharing seems like a nothing-burger.

DFER, in the house!

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Anonymous wrote:Getting back to the poll, it's pretty funny that the poll was basically single digits for most candidates, and everyone undecided. I could've told them that!

Whether they were also testing messages who knows. I don't think anyone needs to be told that schools matter in Ward 3.

(Also funny is that candidates talk to TK, who recorded his call!)

Yeah the whole poll info sharing seems like a nothing-burger.

DFER, in the house!

The tell is that all of the "nothing to see here" posts come during business hours.

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Anonymous wrote:Getting back to the poll, it's pretty funny that the poll was basically single digits for most candidates, and everyone undecided. I could've told them that!

Whether they were also testing messages who knows. I don't think anyone needs to be told that schools matter in Ward 3.

(Also funny is that candidates talk to TK, who recorded his call!)

Yeah the whole poll info sharing seems like a nothing-burger.

DFER, in the house!

The tell is that all of the "nothing to see here" posts come during business hours.

Non “business hours” poster here and as far as political “scandals” in DC go, it’s pretty sad.