Democrats for Education Reform (Bowser, Goulet etc)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dfer is the group that conducted the poll that was shared illegally and privately with Goulet. It included questions about which messages test best.

If they shared those results with him -- and he admits other results were shared -- they likely had a giant impact on this race.

Goulet is dirty and if he wins a large part of it is because of illegal campaing contributions.

Do you have
1) any description of what you're talking about regarding an illegal poll? Why is taking a poll illegal?
2) an evidence regarding your accusations about illegal contributions?

1) Taking a poll is legal. Sharing private poll results not in the public domain with a candidate is an illegal in-kind contribution. Likely entails illegal coordination too.
2) The WCP reported (https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/558653/eric-goulet-says-hes-seen-a-poll-in-the-ward-3-race-hes-telling-shifting-stories-about-how-he-got-it/) that there was a recording of Goulet saying someone called him to give him the poll results.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dfer is the group that conducted the poll that was shared illegally and privately with Goulet. It included questions about which messages test best.

If they shared those results with him -- and he admits other results were shared -- they likely had a giant impact on this race.

Goulet is dirty and if he wins a large part of it is because of illegal campaing contributions.

Do you have
1) any description of what you're talking about regarding an illegal poll? Why is taking a poll illegal?
2) an evidence regarding your accusations about illegal contributions?

DP: https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/558653/eric-goulet-says-hes-seen-a-poll-in-the-ward-3-race-hes-telling-shifting-stories-about-how-he-got-it/

While it hasn't been confirmed, Goulet has allegedly received polling data from DFER, which could be considered a campaign contribution. Since it was not disclosed, it would be considered illegal.

I have no dog in this particular Goulet fight btw (although I do despise DFER), just answering the question above

Interesting. I also don't have any dog in the Goulet fight, but it's kind of interesting that Gray was tanked by rumors that turned out to be inaccurate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dfer is the group that conducted the poll that was shared illegally and privately with Goulet. It included questions about which messages test best.

If they shared those results with him -- and he admits other results were shared -- they likely had a giant impact on this race.

Goulet is dirty and if he wins a large part of it is because of illegal campaing contributions.

Do you have
1) any description of what you're talking about regarding an illegal poll? Why is taking a poll illegal?
2) an evidence regarding your accusations about illegal contributions?

DP: https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/558653/eric-goulet-says-hes-seen-a-poll-in-the-ward-3-race-hes-telling-shifting-stories-about-how-he-got-it/

While it hasn't been confirmed, Goulet has allegedly received polling data from DFER, which could be considered a campaign contribution. Since it was not disclosed, it would be considered illegal.

I have no dog in this particular Goulet fight btw (although I do despise DFER), just answering the question above

Interesting. I also don't have any dog in the Goulet fight, but it's kind of interesting that Gray was tanked by rumors that turned out to be inaccurate.

This is not inaccurate. There's a recording!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dfer is the group that conducted the poll that was shared illegally and privately with Goulet. It included questions about which messages test best.

If they shared those results with him -- and he admits other results were shared -- they likely had a giant impact on this race.

Goulet is dirty and if he wins a large part of it is because of illegal campaing contributions.

Do you have
1) any description of what you're talking about regarding an illegal poll? Why is taking a poll illegal?
2) an evidence regarding your accusations about illegal contributions?

1) Taking a poll is legal. Sharing private poll results not in the public domain with a candidate is an illegal in-kind contribution. Likely entails illegal coordination too.
2) The WCP reported (https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/558653/eric-goulet-says-hes-seen-a-poll-in-the-ward-3-race-hes-telling-shifting-stories-about-how-he-got-it/) that there was a recording of Goulet saying someone called him to give him the poll results.

Wow the connection to DFER is all rumor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charter schools are a complicated issue that creates some strange bedfellows with varied motivations and goals. Public education generally is an area where the truth does not fit neatly into any partisan boxes. Sometimes issues get turned into political wedges by people who want to use them to fan the flames of whatever partisan or culture war is afoot but whatever is actually at stake gets left in the dust. See Common Core as a recent example.

You have to distinguish between Charter schools as incubators where teachers can work more freely and adaptively versus Charter schools as cash cows for the vultures.

..."vultures"?

Lol.

Ok. Keep selling that rational perspective.

I'll stand by it. Look at the number of people who have been caught self-sealing, even when they were purportedly non-profits. Google Kent Amos / DC Charter scandal - he's a real peach. And a lot of places don't have the protections that DC does.

Any evidence of any of this? I'm apparently only allowed to google scandals from certain people/groups.

https://lmgtfy.app/?q=kent+amos+charter+scandal+dc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dfer is the group that conducted the poll that was shared illegally and privately with Goulet. It included questions about which messages test best.

If they shared those results with him -- and he admits other results were shared -- they likely had a giant impact on this race.

Goulet is dirty and if he wins a large part of it is because of illegal campaing contributions.

Do you have
1) any description of what you're talking about regarding an illegal poll? Why is taking a poll illegal?
2) an evidence regarding your accusations about illegal contributions?

1) Taking a poll is legal. Sharing private poll results not in the public domain with a candidate is an illegal in-kind contribution. Likely entails illegal coordination too.
2) The WCP reported (https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/558653/eric-goulet-says-hes-seen-a-poll-in-the-ward-3-race-hes-telling-shifting-stories-about-how-he-got-it/) that there was a recording of Goulet saying someone called him to give him the poll results.

Wow the connection to DFER is all rumor.

A recording sent to the paper seems like more than a rumor.

[Anonymous]

To be clear, I am the previous poster talking about Goulet accepting an illegal in-kind contribution.

I do not remotely support the WTU. (One of Laura Fuchs' nastier tweets was about me, directly after I spoke at a public meeting.)

Don't conflate distrust of Goulet and disdain for his campaign's (illegal) tactics with support for the WTU.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dfer is the group that conducted the poll that was shared illegally and privately with Goulet. It included questions about which messages test best.

If they shared those results with him -- and he admits other results were shared -- they likely had a giant impact on this race.

Goulet is dirty and if he wins a large part of it is because of illegal campaing contributions.

Do you have
1) any description of what you're talking about regarding an illegal poll? Why is taking a poll illegal?
2) an evidence regarding your accusations about illegal contributions?

1) Taking a poll is legal. Sharing private poll results not in the public domain with a candidate is an illegal in-kind contribution. Likely entails illegal coordination too.
2) The WCP reported (https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/558653/eric-goulet-says-hes-seen-a-poll-in-the-ward-3-race-hes-telling-shifting-stories-about-how-he-got-it/) that there was a recording of Goulet saying someone called him to give him the poll results.

Wow the connection to DFER is all rumor.

A recording sent to the paper seems like more than a rumor.

Your Washington City Paper article says the connection to DFER is: "Then there’s the matter of who actually conducted this mystery poll. Goulet doesn’t mention specifics on his call with Kravitz, but most people close to this kerfuffle have a guess: Democrats for Education Reform, which has endorsed Goulet."

That's just a rumor about DFER.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dfer is the group that conducted the poll that was shared illegally and privately with Goulet. It included questions about which messages test best.

If they shared those results with him -- and he admits other results were shared -- they likely had a giant impact on this race.

Goulet is dirty and if he wins a large part of it is because of illegal campaing contributions.

Do you have
1) any description of what you're talking about regarding an illegal poll? Why is taking a poll illegal?
2) an evidence regarding your accusations about illegal contributions?

1) Taking a poll is legal. Sharing private poll results not in the public domain with a candidate is an illegal in-kind contribution. Likely entails illegal coordination too.
2) The WCP reported (https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/558653/eric-goulet-says-hes-seen-a-poll-in-the-ward-3-race-hes-telling-shifting-stories-about-how-he-got-it/) that there was a recording of Goulet saying someone called him to give him the poll results.

Wow the connection to DFER is all rumor.

A recording sent to the paper seems like more than a rumor.

Your Washington City Paper article says the connection to DFER is: "Then there’s the matter of who actually conducted this mystery poll. Goulet doesn’t mention specifics on his call with Kravitz, but most people close to this kerfuffle have a guess: Democrats for Education Reform, which has endorsed Goulet."

That's just a rumor about DFER.

Perry Stein's article mentions that DFER polled the Ward 3 race. Their June 10 disclosure will indicate an expenditure at the time in question. Guaranteed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dfer is the group that conducted the poll that was shared illegally and privately with Goulet. It included questions about which messages test best.

If they shared those results with him -- and he admits other results were shared -- they likely had a giant impact on this race.

Goulet is dirty and if he wins a large part of it is because of illegal campaing contributions.

Do you have
1) any description of what you're talking about regarding an illegal poll? Why is taking a poll illegal?
2) an evidence regarding your accusations about illegal contributions?

1) Taking a poll is legal. Sharing private poll results not in the public domain with a candidate is an illegal in-kind contribution. Likely entails illegal coordination too.
2) The WCP reported (https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/558653/eric-goulet-says-hes-seen-a-poll-in-the-ward-3-race-hes-telling-shifting-stories-about-how-he-got-it/) that there was a recording of Goulet saying someone called him to give him the poll results.

Wow the connection to DFER is all rumor.

A recording sent to the paper seems like more than a rumor.

Your Washington City Paper article says the connection to DFER is: "Then there’s the matter of who actually conducted this mystery poll. Goulet doesn’t mention specifics on his call with Kravitz, but most people close to this kerfuffle have a guess: Democrats for Education Reform, which has endorsed Goulet."

That's just a rumor about DFER.

Oh, ok. Yeah, that's fair. I would bet money that it's DFER but that is all conjecture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To be clear, I am the previous poster talking about Goulet accepting an illegal in-kind contribution.

I do not remotely support the WTU. (One of Laura Fuchs' nastier tweets was about me, directly after I spoke at a public meeting.)

Don't conflate distrust of Goulet and disdain for his campaign's (illegal) tactics with support for the WTU.

FWIW, I'm a DCPS teacher and not particularly a WTU supporter, but Laura Fuchs is not synonymous with what teachers think. She's just the loudest voice. I do support public education and dislike what DFER stands for, but I don't think its very productive to make this a WTU vs. DFER discussion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charter schools are a complicated issue that creates some strange bedfellows with varied motivations and goals. Public education generally is an area where the truth does not fit neatly into any partisan boxes. Sometimes issues get turned into political wedges by people who want to use them to fan the flames of whatever partisan or culture war is afoot but whatever is actually at stake gets left in the dust. See Common Core as a recent example.

You have to distinguish between Charter schools as incubators where teachers can work more freely and adaptively versus Charter schools as cash cows for the vultures.

..."vultures"?

Lol.

Ok. Keep selling that rational perspective.

I'll stand by it. Look at the number of people who have been caught self-sealing, even when they were purportedly non-profits. Google Kent Amos / DC Charter scandal - he's a real peach. And a lot of places don't have the protections that DC does.

Any evidence of any of this? I'm apparently only allowed to google scandals from certain people/groups.

https://lmgtfy.app/?q=kent+amos+charter+scandal+dc

How is this connected at all the topic of the thread? Just smearing for laughs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To be clear, I am the previous poster talking about Goulet accepting an illegal in-kind contribution.

I do not remotely support the WTU. (One of Laura Fuchs' nastier tweets was about me, directly after I spoke at a public meeting.)

Don't conflate distrust of Goulet and disdain for his campaign's (illegal) tactics with support for the WTU.

FWIW, I'm a DCPS teacher and not particularly a WTU supporter, but Laura Fuchs is not synonymous with what teachers think. She's just the loudest voice. I do support public education and dislike what DFER stands for, but I don't think its very productive to make this a WTU vs. DFER discussion

It would be useful for OP to come back and explain how DFER is "right wing", as they claim. I can't understand who would be making that claim beyond XXX group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charter schools are a complicated issue that creates some strange bedfellows with varied motivations and goals. Public education generally is an area where the truth does not fit neatly into any partisan boxes. Sometimes issues get turned into political wedges by people who want to use them to fan the flames of whatever partisan or culture war is afoot but whatever is actually at stake gets left in the dust. See Common Core as a recent example.

You have to distinguish between Charter schools as incubators where teachers can work more freely and adaptively versus Charter schools as cash cows for the vultures.

..."vultures"?

Lol.

Ok. Keep selling that rational perspective.

I'll stand by it. Look at the number of people who have been caught self-sealing, even when they were purportedly non-profits. Google Kent Amos / DC Charter scandal - he's a real peach. And a lot of places don't have the protections that DC does.

Any evidence of any of this? I'm apparently only allowed to google scandals from certain people/groups.

https://lmgtfy.app/?q=kent+amos+charter+scandal+dc

How is this connected at all the topic of the thread? Just smearing for laughs?

There's a button that says "click to show earlier quotes" to give you context for the latest post in a chain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To be clear, I am the previous poster talking about Goulet accepting an illegal in-kind contribution.

I do not remotely support the WTU. (One of Laura Fuchs' nastier tweets was about me, directly after I spoke at a public meeting.)

Don't conflate distrust of Goulet and disdain for his campaign's (illegal) tactics with support for the WTU.

FWIW, I'm a DCPS teacher and not particularly a WTU supporter, but Laura Fuchs is not synonymous with what teachers think. She's just the loudest voice. I do support public education and dislike what DFER stands for, but I don't think its very productive to make this a WTU vs. DFER discussion

It would be useful for OP to come back and explain how DFER is "right wing", as they claim. I can't understand who would be making that claim beyond XXX group.

There are numerous articles out there that connect DFER to the Waltons (of Walmart) and Betsy Devos.

Here is an opinion piece (note: opinion piece) that seems to be more accessible: https://districtdig.com/2020/11/02/opinion/