One D.C. stop-sign camera brought in $1.3 million in tickets in 2 years

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not sure what compels people to post just to be a-holes.

I would just posit two things. First, while you may it funny that people you perceive to be your enemies are being punished, predatory government behavior doesn’t confine itself to your narrow politics and eventually it will affect something important to you. As a result, everyone should have a vested interest in ensuring that the government doesn’t act abusively.

Second, as frustration with abusive government behavior grows it’s now becoming a political issue which may stir a counter-action that you may like even less.


Wrong. This is not predatory government. This is finally taking a step in stopping abusive speeders killing too many of our pedestrians.

Don't want a ticket? Just.slow.down.



Bwahahaha - you must be new to DC.

The DC government, dating back to the Barry days, does not give a F— about safety when they install these cameras, cite white people in DuPont for J-walking, or any of the other revenue schemes they come up with.

Their revenue schemes are solely to raise revenue.

If you seriously believe they care about “public safety,” then explain the dirt bike boys running wild all over SE, and how nothing at all is done about it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Obviously it was needed!!


Exactly. That's why it's there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not sure what compels people to post just to be a-holes.

I would just posit two things. First, while you may it funny that people you perceive to be your enemies are being punished, predatory government behavior doesn’t confine itself to your narrow politics and eventually it will affect something important to you. As a result, everyone should have a vested interest in ensuring that the government doesn’t act abusively.

Second, as frustration with abusive government behavior grows it’s now becoming a political issue which may stir a counter-action that you may like even less.


Wrong. This is not predatory government. This is finally taking a step in stopping abusive speeders killing too many of our pedestrians.

Don't want a ticket? Just.slow.down.



Bwahahaha - you must be new to DC.

The DC government, dating back to the Barry days, does not give a F— about safety when they install these cameras, cite white people in DuPont for J-walking, or any of the other revenue schemes they come up with.

Their revenue schemes are solely to raise revenue.

If you seriously believe they care about “public safety,” then explain the dirt bike boys running wild all over SE, and how nothing at all is done about it.


Oh that’s right you know everything. We all should do our own research…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is why I have a license plate cover.


Our family member just got pulled over in DC for having a plate cover. $400 fine.

This is a lie.


DC DMV tags must be attached to the vehicle to which they are issued. They must be securely fastened in a horizontal position, so that they do not fall off and can be easily read. District law requires that the tags be visible and not obstructed or covered by any substance (e.g., glass, plastic, spray, license tag holders, etc.).

https://dmv.dc.gov/service/dmv-vehicle-tags
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They don’t do this to you in MD or VA. Just sayin’.


MD and VA have real live traffic cops handing out tickets. People who complain about camera tickets in DC are the biggest whiners on Earth. There's no jurisdiction where traffic laws go completely unenforced, nor should there be.


That is the biggest waste of time. They should just install cameras.


Maryland has lots of cameras.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They don’t do this to you in MD or VA. Just sayin’.


MD and VA have real live traffic cops handing out tickets. People who complain about camera tickets in DC are the biggest whiners on Earth. There's no jurisdiction where traffic laws go completely unenforced, nor should there be.


That is the biggest waste of time. They should just install cameras.


Maryland has lots of cameras.

Maryland has zero stop sign cameras.
Anonymous
14% of the tickets issued that were contested were overturned. That is a very high error rate by any standard.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:14% of the tickets issued that were contested were overturned. That is a very high error rate by any standard.


86% of $1.3 million is still not too bad. However, that camera is almost certainly contracted. How much does the contracting company get per ticket?
Anonymous
They have them around Kenilworth. I see they have moved them into the mostly white parts of town now.

I stopped driving into DC as much. That means I spend less money in DC and get fewer tickets, too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They have them around Kenilworth. I see they have moved them into the mostly white parts of town now.

I stopped driving into DC as much. That means I spend less money in DC and get fewer tickets, too.

Then I guess the policy is a success? I’m not really sure anymore.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:14% of the tickets issued that were contested were overturned. That is a very high error rate by any standard.


The tickets being overturned doesn't mean that they were issued in error. Most tickets in DC will be overturned if you contest it and it's not your 30th.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They have them around Kenilworth. I see they have moved them into the mostly white parts of town now.

I stopped driving into DC as much. That means I spend less money in DC and get fewer tickets, too.


If you're not driving in DC anymore because you get too many tickets, then the citizens of DC definitely come out ahead. Do your terrible driving at home.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They have them around Kenilworth. I see they have moved them into the mostly white parts of town now.

I stopped driving into DC as much. That means I spend less money in DC and get fewer tickets, too.


If you're not driving in DC anymore because you get too many tickets, then the citizens of DC definitely come out ahead. Do your terrible driving at home.


Cameras can’t discern who is a terrible driver. Cameras are for raising revenue.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Obviously it was needed!!


Exactly. That's why it's there.


Doesn’t sound like it’s helping to correct driver behavior if so many tickets keep getting issued. Is it well signed so drivers are aware of the camera?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They have them around Kenilworth. I see they have moved them into the mostly white parts of town now.

I stopped driving into DC as much. That means I spend less money in DC and get fewer tickets, too.


If you're not driving in DC anymore because you get too many tickets, then the citizens of DC definitely come out ahead. Do your terrible driving at home.


Cameras can’t discern who is a terrible driver. Cameras are for raising revenue.


Raising revenue off of traffic violations. If you're paying so many tickets that you're like "how upsetting, I guess there's nothing I can do but avoid that part of the country!" then you are a terrible driver.
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