Are conservatives boycotting Disney now?

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Anonymous wrote:No one is boycotting Disney. Disney has a huge socially conservative clientele, here and abroad, you can bet they're going to cater to it, while virtue signaling to try and keep their more progressive employees reasonably compliant. It's a struggle between progressive Hollywood, and paying customers. Disney management is used to threading a fine line between the two. It's done so for decades. The previous CEO was more progressive than usual, so that's why there's now a little reframing going on with this CEO, who doesn't want to stick his neck out quite as much. It will blow over.

How interesting that you think Disney is “catering” to conservatives but “virtue signaling” to progressives. I don’t see it.

PP you replied to. Because it is. I don't care either way, just so you know. But you should all realize that Disney is never going to be a progressive company. Most of its customers are socially conservative. So that's what Disney is going to sell, with a sprinkling of counter-examples it can point to when it's accused of not being woke enough.

There is NO WAY DeSantis is actually going to move against Disney long term - he would damage his own state's tourism.

It also might be that this was simply a bridge too far for Disney, despite its conservative leanings.

See, I actually think that DeSantis is that stupid. Time will tell I guess!

Disney movies/shows are starting to introduce gay characters. This is going to blow Desantis' and the uber conservatives' collective minds.

https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/disney-executive-wants-more-lgbtqia-minority-character/

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Anonymous wrote:Over the dust up with Desantis? My ILs proposed a family trip to Disney next year. Our kids are young and I wasn’t super excited about the idea but they offered to pay for most of it and it is really the only time that works for everyone before the older cousins go off to college. So SIL has been making the arrangements for lodging, which parks we’d go to, etc. But FIL just told DH and SIL we need to pause the planning until we “see what happens with Disney.” No one had any idea what he was talking about, it’s apparently not a money thing, but then DH heard from someone else that some conservative pundits are encouraging folks to boycott Disney over their opposition of Desantis’ new law. I mean, we never asked for this trip so I am fine to cancel but at some point we need to book flights and I’m not messing around with needless drama for months. Is this really a thing? Or is everyone worries Disney would go under if they lose their tax exempt status?

Disney stock is in a tailspin.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is boycotting Disney. Disney has a huge socially conservative clientele, here and abroad, you can bet they're going to cater to it, while virtue signaling to try and keep their more progressive employees reasonably compliant. It's a struggle between progressive Hollywood, and paying customers. Disney management is used to threading a fine line between the two. It's done so for decades. The previous CEO was more progressive than usual, so that's why there's now a little reframing going on with this CEO, who doesn't want to stick his neck out quite as much. It will blow over.

How interesting that you think Disney is “catering” to conservatives but “virtue signaling” to progressives. I don’t see it.

PP you replied to. Because it is. I don't care either way, just so you know. But you should all realize that Disney is never going to be a progressive company. Most of its customers are socially conservative. So that's what Disney is going to sell, with a sprinkling of counter-examples it can point to when it's accused of not being woke enough.

There is NO WAY DeSantis is actually going to move against Disney long term - he would damage his own state's tourism.

It also might be that this was simply a bridge too far for Disney, despite its conservative leanings.

See, I actually think that DeSantis is that stupid. Time will tell I guess!

Disney movies/shows are starting to introduce gay characters. This is going to blow Desantis' and the uber conservatives' collective minds.

https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/disney-executive-wants-more-lgbtqia-minority-character/

Sorry, but I don’t want my kids seeing gay kisses in Disney movies.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes they’re starting to boycott. I am on some Disney groups and they’re not explicitly saying they are, because of group rules, but it’s political.


Also, I didn’t know they were tax exempt!

Disney isn’t tax exempt.

(The second) 10:37 here And I didn’t think they were which is why I was surprised when OP said they were. Either way, in my Disney groups there are people who are boycotting/not patronizing Disney. That’s fine, it’s completely their right. The same way some people don’t patronize Chick-fil-A. Less crowds is always better!

OP is confused. When Disney World was being planned, Walt Disney made an agreement with Florida to essentially create his own jurisdiction, called Reedy Creek Improvement District. In doing so, he was able to do things like build new rides, hotels, etc. without having to get everything approved by Orange and Osceola County Boards (the two counties in which Disney World is located). In return, Walt Disney Company provides for its own trash collection, fire protection, road maintenance, etc.

This doesn’t mean Disney doesn’t pay taxes. Of course they do. Having their own improvement district just means they take on the cost of running things within that district, in return for more efficient operations (since they don’t need to go through local approval processes for new buildings).

DeSantis wants to revoke Reedy Creek Improvement District, which will actually raise the cost for local Florida residents of having Disney World there, since they’ll have to pay for all of those services. The counties will also have to deal with approving new rides, hotels, etc. It’s a terrible deal for Florida.

OP here and yes sorry, I was confused! Thank you for the detailed explanation!

And yeah, I’m really tempted to just pull out of this but I’m letting DH deal with his family. At least early on it sounded like this trip was important to his parents, who are getting older and likely won’t be up for it for much longer, so the whole 180 is just bizarre.

PP here — no worries. It’s a really idiosyncratic arrangement that Disney figured out for itself (but one that makes a huge amount of sense for a corporation with a ton of money and a desire for maximum control over its operations).

When they started building the park the local government was not capable of providing the services.

I would argue the local government is still not capable of providing the services, and they will certainly be at a worse level than what Disney provides for itself now - and very expensive for taxpayers. Seems like a great way to s***w everyone here.

I struggle to see what the end game is here for these maroon Republicans. What do they think happens after Disney loses its private government? Is this just a horse head in the bed for other corporations?

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Lots of Democrats are also disgusted with Disney right now.

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I heard Disney is planning to shut down till the republicans apologize.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is boycotting Disney. Disney has a huge socially conservative clientele, here and abroad, you can bet they're going to cater to it, while virtue signaling to try and keep their more progressive employees reasonably compliant. It's a struggle between progressive Hollywood, and paying customers. Disney management is used to threading a fine line between the two. It's done so for decades. The previous CEO was more progressive than usual, so that's why there's now a little reframing going on with this CEO, who doesn't want to stick his neck out quite as much. It will blow over.

How interesting that you think Disney is “catering” to conservatives but “virtue signaling” to progressives. I don’t see it.

PP you replied to. Because it is. I don't care either way, just so you know. But you should all realize that Disney is never going to be a progressive company. Most of its customers are socially conservative. So that's what Disney is going to sell, with a sprinkling of counter-examples it can point to when it's accused of not being woke enough.

There is NO WAY DeSantis is actually going to move against Disney long term - he would damage his own state's tourism.

It also might be that this was simply a bridge too far for Disney, despite its conservative leanings.

See, I actually think that DeSantis is that stupid. Time will tell I guess!

Disney movies/shows are starting to introduce gay characters. This is going to blow Desantis' and the uber conservatives' collective minds.

https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/disney-executive-wants-more-lgbtqia-minority-character/

Sorry, but I don’t want my kids seeing gay kisses in Disney movies.

Sorry, but your preferences don’t get to dictate the stories that Disney tells. If you’re that concerned, prescreen everything so you can be warned and know when to clap your hands over your children’s eyes so they are not irredeemably corrupted by seeing a G rated gay kiss.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes they’re starting to boycott. I am on some Disney groups and they’re not explicitly saying they are, because of group rules, but it’s political.


Also, I didn’t know they were tax exempt!

Disney isn’t tax exempt.

(The second) 10:37 here And I didn’t think they were which is why I was surprised when OP said they were. Either way, in my Disney groups there are people who are boycotting/not patronizing Disney. That’s fine, it’s completely their right. The same way some people don’t patronize Chick-fil-A. Less crowds is always better!

OP is confused. When Disney World was being planned, Walt Disney made an agreement with Florida to essentially create his own jurisdiction, called Reedy Creek Improvement District. In doing so, he was able to do things like build new rides, hotels, etc. without having to get everything approved by Orange and Osceola County Boards (the two counties in which Disney World is located). In return, Walt Disney Company provides for its own trash collection, fire protection, road maintenance, etc.

This doesn’t mean Disney doesn’t pay taxes. Of course they do. Having their own improvement district just means they take on the cost of running things within that district, in return for more efficient operations (since they don’t need to go through local approval processes for new buildings).

DeSantis wants to revoke Reedy Creek Improvement District, which will actually raise the cost for local Florida residents of having Disney World there, since they’ll have to pay for all of those services. The counties will also have to deal with approving new rides, hotels, etc. It’s a terrible deal for Florida.

OP here and yes sorry, I was confused! Thank you for the detailed explanation!

And yeah, I’m really tempted to just pull out of this but I’m letting DH deal with his family. At least early on it sounded like this trip was important to his parents, who are getting older and likely won’t be up for it for much longer, so the whole 180 is just bizarre.

PP here — no worries. It’s a really idiosyncratic arrangement that Disney figured out for itself (but one that makes a huge amount of sense for a corporation with a ton of money and a desire for maximum control over its operations).

When they started building the park the local government was not capable of providing the services.

I would argue the local government is still not capable of providing the services, and they will certainly be at a worse level than what Disney provides for itself now - and very expensive for taxpayers. Seems like a great way to s***w everyone here.

I struggle to see what the end game is here for these maroon Republicans. What do they think happens after Disney loses its private government? Is this just a horse head in the bed for other corporations?

The republicans want a government like Russia has. I am sure republicans in Florida have their hands out excepting Disney to paid them off or they want Disney to shut down so one of their friends can buy it on the cheap. It’s always some type of grift with the republicans.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of Democrats are also disgusted with Disney right now.

really? How many? Lots and lots and lots? People are saying..?

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Anonymous wrote:No one is boycotting Disney. Disney has a huge socially conservative clientele, here and abroad, you can bet they're going to cater to it, while virtue signaling to try and keep their more progressive employees reasonably compliant. It's a struggle between progressive Hollywood, and paying customers. Disney management is used to threading a fine line between the two. It's done so for decades. The previous CEO was more progressive than usual, so that's why there's now a little reframing going on with this CEO, who doesn't want to stick his neck out quite as much. It will blow over.

How interesting that you think Disney is “catering” to conservatives but “virtue signaling” to progressives. I don’t see it.

PP you replied to. Because it is. I don't care either way, just so you know. But you should all realize that Disney is never going to be a progressive company. Most of its customers are socially conservative. So that's what Disney is going to sell, with a sprinkling of counter-examples it can point to when it's accused of not being woke enough.

There is NO WAY DeSantis is actually going to move against Disney long term - he would damage his own state's tourism.

It also might be that this was simply a bridge too far for Disney, despite its conservative leanings.

See, I actually think that DeSantis is that stupid. Time will tell I guess!

Disney movies/shows are starting to introduce gay characters. This is going to blow Desantis' and the uber conservatives' collective minds.

https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/disney-executive-wants-more-lgbtqia-minority-character/

Sorry, but I don’t want my kids seeing gay kisses in Disney movies.

Then don't watch. Problem solved.

I don't like watching/hearing Trump speak, so I don't watch him when he's on the news. See? Easy.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes they’re starting to boycott. I am on some Disney groups and they’re not explicitly saying they are, because of group rules, but it’s political.


Also, I didn’t know they were tax exempt!

Disney isn’t tax exempt.

(The second) 10:37 here And I didn’t think they were which is why I was surprised when OP said they were. Either way, in my Disney groups there are people who are boycotting/not patronizing Disney. That’s fine, it’s completely their right. The same way some people don’t patronize Chick-fil-A. Less crowds is always better!

OP is confused. When Disney World was being planned, Walt Disney made an agreement with Florida to essentially create his own jurisdiction, called Reedy Creek Improvement District. In doing so, he was able to do things like build new rides, hotels, etc. without having to get everything approved by Orange and Osceola County Boards (the two counties in which Disney World is located). In return, Walt Disney Company provides for its own trash collection, fire protection, road maintenance, etc.

This doesn’t mean Disney doesn’t pay taxes. Of course they do. Having their own improvement district just means they take on the cost of running things within that district, in return for more efficient operations (since they don’t need to go through local approval processes for new buildings).

DeSantis wants to revoke Reedy Creek Improvement District, which will actually raise the cost for local Florida residents of having Disney World there, since they’ll have to pay for all of those services. The counties will also have to deal with approving new rides, hotels, etc. It’s a terrible deal for Florida.

OP here and yes sorry, I was confused! Thank you for the detailed explanation!

And yeah, I’m really tempted to just pull out of this but I’m letting DH deal with his family. At least early on it sounded like this trip was important to his parents, who are getting older and likely won’t be up for it for much longer, so the whole 180 is just bizarre.

PP here — no worries. It’s a really idiosyncratic arrangement that Disney figured out for itself (but one that makes a huge amount of sense for a corporation with a ton of money and a desire for maximum control over its operations).

When they started building the park the local government was not capable of providing the services.

I would argue the local government is still not capable of providing the services, and they will certainly be at a worse level than what Disney provides for itself now - and very expensive for taxpayers. Seems like a great way to s***w everyone here.

I struggle to see what the end game is here for these maroon Republicans. What do they think happens after Disney loses its private government? Is this just a horse head in the bed for other corporations?

The republicans want a government like Russia has. I am sure republicans in Florida have their hands out excepting Disney to paid them off or they want Disney to shut down so one of their friends can buy it on the cheap. It’s always some type of grift with the republicans.

It would be devastating to the state if Disney decided to leave - not that they even could. That's why I am having a hard time seeing where exactly this goes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of Democrats are also disgusted with Disney right now.

Prove it.

[Anonymous]

13:50 has obviously never been to Russia. Please go!

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Anonymous wrote:No one is boycotting Disney. Disney has a huge socially conservative clientele, here and abroad, you can bet they're going to cater to it, while virtue signaling to try and keep their more progressive employees reasonably compliant. It's a struggle between progressive Hollywood, and paying customers. Disney management is used to threading a fine line between the two. It's done so for decades. The previous CEO was more progressive than usual, so that's why there's now a little reframing going on with this CEO, who doesn't want to stick his neck out quite as much. It will blow over.

How interesting that you think Disney is “catering” to conservatives but “virtue signaling” to progressives. I don’t see it.

PP you replied to. Because it is. I don't care either way, just so you know. But you should all realize that Disney is never going to be a progressive company. Most of its customers are socially conservative. So that's what Disney is going to sell, with a sprinkling of counter-examples it can point to when it's accused of not being woke enough.

There is NO WAY DeSantis is actually going to move against Disney long term - he would damage his own state's tourism.

It also might be that this was simply a bridge too far for Disney, despite its conservative leanings.

See, I actually think that DeSantis is that stupid. Time will tell I guess!

Disney movies/shows are starting to introduce gay characters. This is going to blow Desantis' and the uber conservatives' collective minds.

https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/disney-executive-wants-more-lgbtqia-minority-character/

Sorry, but I don’t want my kids seeing gay kisses in Disney movies.

So when they see two people in love out in the real world you want them to have rude reactions?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes they’re starting to boycott. I am on some Disney groups and they’re not explicitly saying they are, because of group rules, but it’s political.


Also, I didn’t know they were tax exempt!

Disney isn’t tax exempt.

(The second) 10:37 here And I didn’t think they were which is why I was surprised when OP said they were. Either way, in my Disney groups there are people who are boycotting/not patronizing Disney. That’s fine, it’s completely their right. The same way some people don’t patronize Chick-fil-A. Less crowds is always better!

OP is confused. When Disney World was being planned, Walt Disney made an agreement with Florida to essentially create his own jurisdiction, called Reedy Creek Improvement District. In doing so, he was able to do things like build new rides, hotels, etc. without having to get everything approved by Orange and Osceola County Boards (the two counties in which Disney World is located). In return, Walt Disney Company provides for its own trash collection, fire protection, road maintenance, etc.

This doesn’t mean Disney doesn’t pay taxes. Of course they do. Having their own improvement district just means they take on the cost of running things within that district, in return for more efficient operations (since they don’t need to go through local approval processes for new buildings).

DeSantis wants to revoke Reedy Creek Improvement District, which will actually raise the cost for local Florida residents of having Disney World there, since they’ll have to pay for all of those services. The counties will also have to deal with approving new rides, hotels, etc. It’s a terrible deal for Florida.

OP here and yes sorry, I was confused! Thank you for the detailed explanation!

And yeah, I’m really tempted to just pull out of this but I’m letting DH deal with his family. At least early on it sounded like this trip was important to his parents, who are getting older and likely won’t be up for it for much longer, so the whole 180 is just bizarre.

PP here — no worries. It’s a really idiosyncratic arrangement that Disney figured out for itself (but one that makes a huge amount of sense for a corporation with a ton of money and a desire for maximum control over its operations).

When they started building the park the local government was not capable of providing the services.

I would argue the local government is still not capable of providing the services, and they will certainly be at a worse level than what Disney provides for itself now - and very expensive for taxpayers. Seems like a great way to s***w everyone here.

I struggle to see what the end game is here for these maroon Republicans. What do they think happens after Disney loses its private government? Is this just a horse head in the bed for other corporations?

The republicans want a government like Russia has. I am sure republicans in Florida have their hands out excepting Disney to paid them off or they want Disney to shut down so one of their friends can buy it on the cheap. It’s always some type of grift with the republicans.

It would be devastating to the state if Disney decided to leave - not that they even could. That's why I am having a hard time seeing where exactly this goes.

I would bet Disney is the state’s largest employer — or certainly the anchor of Orlando tourism. If I ran Universal, Legoland, Sea World, etc. I’d be worried about anything happening to Disney World, as I’m sure a percentage of the visitors to those parks are people who are tacking a few days onto a Disney World trip.