Are conservatives boycotting Disney now?

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Conservatives' slavish devotion to cancel culture while protesting cancel culture is a wee bit amusing.

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Anonymous wrote:Liberals who previously scoffed at going to Disney should start flooding the gates.

Oh but you see progressives/ liberals are far too erudite to ever consider going to Disney.

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Anonymous wrote:Liberals who previously scoffed at going to Disney should start flooding the gates.

Oh but you see progressives/ liberals are far too erudite to ever consider going to Disney.

Can you provide any data that substantiates that Walt Disney World guests tend to be more conservative?

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Anonymous wrote:No one is boycotting Disney. Disney has a huge socially conservative clientele, here and abroad, you can bet they're going to cater to it, while virtue signaling to try and keep their more progressive employees reasonably compliant. It's a struggle between progressive Hollywood, and paying customers. Disney management is used to threading a fine line between the two. It's done so for decades. The previous CEO was more progressive than usual, so that's why there's now a little reframing going on with this CEO, who doesn't want to stick his neck out quite as much. It will blow over.

How interesting that you think Disney is “catering” to conservatives but “virtue signaling” to progressives. I don’t see it.

PP you replied to. Because it is. I don't care either way, just so you know. But you should all realize that Disney is never going to be a progressive company. Most of its customers are socially conservative. So that's what Disney is going to sell, with a sprinkling of counter-examples it can point to when it's accused of not being woke enough.

There is NO WAY DeSantis is actually going to move against Disney long term - he would damage his own state's tourism.

I don't think you have any evidence for the assertion that "most of customers are socially conservative."

This hysteria from Fox "News" hardly supports your assertion about "virtue signaling." That phrase suggests empty symbolic gestures, not a "left-wing agenda." https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/disney-left-wing-activism-environment-fear-workers

I mean, Disney has been unabashedly pro-LGBTQ for years. https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/04/its-not-just-frozen-disney-has-always-been-subtly-pro-gay/361060/

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Anonymous wrote:What morons.

What an insightful and intelligent observation!

I agree. I think that comment summed up those right wing nut jobs pretty well

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Anonymous wrote:Conservatives' slavish devotion to cancel culture while protesting cancel culture is a wee bit amusing.

+1

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I am not spending my money in Florida. Awful state. I’ll go to California Disney.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes they’re starting to boycott. I am on some Disney groups and they’re not explicitly saying they are, because of group rules, but it’s political.


Also, I didn’t know they were tax exempt!

Disney isn’t tax exempt.

(The second) 10:37 here And I didn’t think they were which is why I was surprised when OP said they were. Either way, in my Disney groups there are people who are boycotting/not patronizing Disney. That’s fine, it’s completely their right. The same way some people don’t patronize Chick-fil-A. Less crowds is always better!

OP is confused. When Disney World was being planned, Walt Disney made an agreement with Florida to essentially create his own jurisdiction, called Reedy Creek Improvement District. In doing so, he was able to do things like build new rides, hotels, etc. without having to get everything approved by Orange and Osceola County Boards (the two counties in which Disney World is located). In return, Walt Disney Company provides for its own trash collection, fire protection, road maintenance, etc.

This doesn’t mean Disney doesn’t pay taxes. Of course they do. Having their own improvement district just means they take on the cost of running things within that district, in return for more efficient operations (since they don’t need to go through local approval processes for new buildings).

DeSantis wants to revoke Reedy Creek Improvement District, which will actually raise the cost for local Florida residents of having Disney World there, since they’ll have to pay for all of those services. The counties will also have to deal with approving new rides, hotels, etc. It’s a terrible deal for Florida.

OP here and yes sorry, I was confused! Thank you for the detailed explanation!

And yeah, I’m really tempted to just pull out of this but I’m letting DH deal with his family. At least early on it sounded like this trip was important to his parents, who are getting older and likely won’t be up for it for much longer, so the whole 180 is just bizarre.

PP here — no worries. It’s a really idiosyncratic arrangement that Disney figured out for itself (but one that makes a huge amount of sense for a corporation with a ton of money and a desire for maximum control over its operations).

When they started building the park the local government was not capable of providing the services.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes they’re starting to boycott. I am on some Disney groups and they’re not explicitly saying they are, because of group rules, but it’s political.


Also, I didn’t know they were tax exempt!

Disney isn’t tax exempt.

(The second) 10:37 here And I didn’t think they were which is why I was surprised when OP said they were. Either way, in my Disney groups there are people who are boycotting/not patronizing Disney. That’s fine, it’s completely their right. The same way some people don’t patronize Chick-fil-A. Less crowds is always better!

OP is confused. When Disney World was being planned, Walt Disney made an agreement with Florida to essentially create his own jurisdiction, called Reedy Creek Improvement District. In doing so, he was able to do things like build new rides, hotels, etc. without having to get everything approved by Orange and Osceola County Boards (the two counties in which Disney World is located). In return, Walt Disney Company provides for its own trash collection, fire protection, road maintenance, etc.

This doesn’t mean Disney doesn’t pay taxes. Of course they do. Having their own improvement district just means they take on the cost of running things within that district, in return for more efficient operations (since they don’t need to go through local approval processes for new buildings).

DeSantis wants to revoke Reedy Creek Improvement District, which will actually raise the cost for local Florida residents of having Disney World there, since they’ll have to pay for all of those services. The counties will also have to deal with approving new rides, hotels, etc. It’s a terrible deal for Florida.

OP here and yes sorry, I was confused! Thank you for the detailed explanation!

And yeah, I’m really tempted to just pull out of this but I’m letting DH deal with his family. At least early on it sounded like this trip was important to his parents, who are getting older and likely won’t be up for it for much longer, so the whole 180 is just bizarre.

PP here — no worries. It’s a really idiosyncratic arrangement that Disney figured out for itself (but one that makes a huge amount of sense for a corporation with a ton of money and a desire for maximum control over its operations).

When they started building the park the local government was not capable of providing the services.

I am sure the county governments are thrilled with the prospect of taking these these responsibilities on.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes they’re starting to boycott. I am on some Disney groups and they’re not explicitly saying they are, because of group rules, but it’s political.


Also, I didn’t know they were tax exempt!

Disney isn’t tax exempt.

(The second) 10:37 here And I didn’t think they were which is why I was surprised when OP said they were. Either way, in my Disney groups there are people who are boycotting/not patronizing Disney. That’s fine, it’s completely their right. The same way some people don’t patronize Chick-fil-A. Less crowds is always better!

OP is confused. When Disney World was being planned, Walt Disney made an agreement with Florida to essentially create his own jurisdiction, called Reedy Creek Improvement District. In doing so, he was able to do things like build new rides, hotels, etc. without having to get everything approved by Orange and Osceola County Boards (the two counties in which Disney World is located). In return, Walt Disney Company provides for its own trash collection, fire protection, road maintenance, etc.

This doesn’t mean Disney doesn’t pay taxes. Of course they do. Having their own improvement district just means they take on the cost of running things within that district, in return for more efficient operations (since they don’t need to go through local approval processes for new buildings).

DeSantis wants to revoke Reedy Creek Improvement District, which will actually raise the cost for local Florida residents of having Disney World there, since they’ll have to pay for all of those services. The counties will also have to deal with approving new rides, hotels, etc. It’s a terrible deal for Florida.

OP here and yes sorry, I was confused! Thank you for the detailed explanation!

And yeah, I’m really tempted to just pull out of this but I’m letting DH deal with his family. At least early on it sounded like this trip was important to his parents, who are getting older and likely won’t be up for it for much longer, so the whole 180 is just bizarre.

PP here — no worries. It’s a really idiosyncratic arrangement that Disney figured out for itself (but one that makes a huge amount of sense for a corporation with a ton of money and a desire for maximum control over its operations).

When they started building the park the local government was not capable of providing the services.

I am sure the county governments are thrilled with the prospect of taking these these responsibilities on.

Those two counties are heavily Democratic, so I’m sure part of this is about being vindictive towards them.

[Anonymous]

Keep laughing and insulting people for not being a Disney groomer. When this shit gets exposed you will ALL get sick. Save that hate for disclosure.

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Anonymous wrote:Keep laughing and insulting people for not being a Disney groomer. When this shit gets exposed you will ALL get sick. Save that hate for disclosure.

Wut

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Anonymous wrote:Would love this. Headed there in a week.

Same. Had DH and I are fairly conservative. Bring on the boycott!

[Anonymous]

There is so much pent up demand that Disney won’t miss a few boomer conservatives. Once international travel picks up Disney will be even insanely crowded.

DeSantis was catering to conservative boomers with the Dont Say Gay bill. He needed something that stroked their bigoted fears enough to move them past how many of their peers he killed during covid. Boomers in Florida did not like having their hip replacement and doctors appointments delayed because the hospitals were constantly at capacity. DeSantis needed to put his Captain COVid in the rear view mirror. The best way to endear yourself to old bigoted boomers is to go after gay people.

Disneys market is not boomers. It’s millennial parents and their zoomer kids who both deeply dislike bigoted boomers. Bigoted bible humpers in fly over states don’t spend $$$ at Disney. They may buy knock off disney crap at Walmart or thrift stores but they aren’t booking the Grand Floridian.

OP - your bigger problem s that your FIL is a nast bigot. Why would you want your kids vacationing with a nasty bigot anyway? Use this as an opportunity to go on a vacation that you want with your nuclear family leaving the bigot behind.

[Anonymous]

I know conservatives boycotting Disney because of their new “woke” stuff - Ie. Changing the greeting from boys and girls to gender neutral. And they don’t like the idea of gay characters in upcoming Disney movies.