Timeline for TJ case?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If they do a lottery, they really should reopen and allow any 8th grader to apply.

Why?

By the way - no they shouldn't. The system cannot afford any further inputs at this point.

Just take the kids with 4.0's and the the ones who got the science question right. That will probably still be more than can be admitted. So then do lottery. Then spend the remaining time getting admissions right next year, instead of fighting in court. What a waste of time and resources!

Who started this whole mess?

- oh right. Radical leftist progressives.

Ehh, they changed the admissions process. That happens all the time. No one was required to contest it.

That's right. Just sit in the corner like good children and take your punishment for being too successful. We radical leftists know what is good for you and everyone else as we just need to feel self righteous and superior.

I'll be honest... we're not that concerned with what's best for YOU, because there are a lot more people than just YOU to consider.

We are more concerned with what's best for TJ. And we have enough experience to know that pretty well.

You sound so pompous

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If they do a lottery, they really should reopen and allow any 8th grader to apply.

Why?

By the way - no they shouldn't. The system cannot afford any further inputs at this point.

Just take the kids with 4.0's and the the ones who got the science question right. That will probably still be more than can be admitted. So then do lottery. Then spend the remaining time getting admissions right next year, instead of fighting in court. What a waste of time and resources!

Who started this whole mess?

- oh right. Radical leftist progressives.

Ehh, they changed the admissions process. That happens all the time. No one was required to contest it.

That's right. Just sit in the corner like good children and take your punishment for being too successful. We radical leftists know what is good for you and everyone else as we just need to feel self righteous and superior.

I'll be honest... we're not that concerned with what's best for YOU, because there are a lot more people than just YOU to consider.

We are more concerned with what's best for TJ. And we have enough experience to know that pretty well.

You sound so pompous

Experienced and confident, my friend.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they do a lottery, they really should reopen and allow any 8th grader to apply.

Why?

By the way - no they shouldn't. The system cannot afford any further inputs at this point.

Just take the kids with 4.0's and the the ones who got the science question right. That will probably still be more than can be admitted. So then do lottery. Then spend the remaining time getting admissions right next year, instead of fighting in court. What a waste of time and resources!

Who started this whole mess?

- oh right. Radical leftist progressives.

Ehh, they changed the admissions process. That happens all the time. No one was required to contest it.

That's right. Just sit in the corner like good children and take your punishment for being too successful. We radical leftists know what is good for you and everyone else as we just need to feel self righteous and superior.

I'll be honest... we're not that concerned with what's best for YOU, because there are a lot more people than just YOU to consider.

We are more concerned with what's best for TJ. And we have enough experience to know that pretty well.

You sound so pompous

Well, they seem to grasp that it isn't just about their needs like privileged jerks spouting off.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you admit by lottery, TJ teachers will leave in droves. They chose to work at TJ for high level teaching. Or they could teach at base schools. They will never say this publicly of course. There is no stomach for a lottery. Youngkin has already nixed it.

Asian prospective TJ students are already avoiding TJ in droves.

The court has validated their belief that the School Board and Dr. Brabrand are racist towards Asian people. Most of those who can afford it are opting for private school.

Those that can get in plus afford it are few in number right now. As Asians grow in number and wealth, private HSs are also going to start capping Asians more. They have always preferred a diverse mix with a large URM number.

You seem to really hate Asians.

That's odd I thought Asians that made up less than 20% of the county had something like 70% of the TJ seats.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they do a lottery, they really should reopen and allow any 8th grader to apply.

Why?

By the way - no they shouldn't. The system cannot afford any further inputs at this point.

Just take the kids with 4.0's and the the ones who got the science question right. That will probably still be more than can be admitted. So then do lottery. Then spend the remaining time getting admissions right next year, instead of fighting in court. What a waste of time and resources!

Who started this whole mess?

- oh right. Radical leftist progressives.

Ehh, they changed the admissions process. That happens all the time. No one was required to contest it.

That's right. Just sit in the corner like good children and take your punishment for being too successful. We radical leftists know what is good for you and everyone else as we just need to feel self righteous and superior.

I'll be honest... we're not that concerned with what's best for YOU, because there are a lot more people than just YOU to consider.

We are more concerned with what's best for TJ. And we have enough experience to know that pretty well.

You sound so pompous

Experienced and confident, my friend.

That's what you may think you are, but you just sound pompous. Just being honest, my friend

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they do a lottery, they really should reopen and allow any 8th grader to apply.

Why?

By the way - no they shouldn't. The system cannot afford any further inputs at this point.

Just take the kids with 4.0's and the the ones who got the science question right. That will probably still be more than can be admitted. So then do lottery. Then spend the remaining time getting admissions right next year, instead of fighting in court. What a waste of time and resources!

Who started this whole mess?

- oh right. Radical leftist progressives.

Ehh, they changed the admissions process. That happens all the time. No one was required to contest it.

That's right. Just sit in the corner like good children and take your punishment for being too successful. We radical leftists know what is good for you and everyone else as we just need to feel self righteous and superior.

I'll be honest... we're not that concerned with what's best for YOU, because there are a lot more people than just YOU to consider.

We are more concerned with what's best for TJ. And we have enough experience to know that pretty well.

You sound so pompous

Well, they seem to grasp that it isn't just about their needs like privileged jerks spouting off.

Robin, learn to write better.

[Anonymous]

We must have 70% of TJ teachers to be Asians to properly reflect the demographics of the student population. TJ principal must be Asian to properly reflect the demographics of the student body.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they do a lottery, they really should reopen and allow any 8th grader to apply.

Why?

By the way - no they shouldn't. The system cannot afford any further inputs at this point.

Just take the kids with 4.0's and the the ones who got the science question right. That will probably still be more than can be admitted. So then do lottery. Then spend the remaining time getting admissions right next year, instead of fighting in court. What a waste of time and resources!

Who started this whole mess?

- oh right. Radical leftist progressives.

Ehh, they changed the admissions process. That happens all the time. No one was required to contest it.

That's right. Just sit in the corner like good children and take your punishment for being too successful. We radical leftists know what is good for you and everyone else as we just need to feel self righteous and superior.

I'll be honest... we're not that concerned with what's best for YOU, because there are a lot more people than just YOU to consider.

We are more concerned with what's best for TJ. And we have enough experience to know that pretty well.

You sound so pompous

Well, they seem to grasp that it isn't just about their needs like privileged jerks spouting off.

Sure about that? They dont seem to lose anything from the new admission plan but everything to gain from it. Why not get behind a policy that gives some spots to black and latino kids if that policy also give their white privileged kids a much better chance at admission?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they do a lottery, they really should reopen and allow any 8th grader to apply.

Why?

By the way - no they shouldn't. The system cannot afford any further inputs at this point.

Just take the kids with 4.0's and the the ones who got the science question right. That will probably still be more than can be admitted. So then do lottery. Then spend the remaining time getting admissions right next year, instead of fighting in court. What a waste of time and resources!

Who started this whole mess?

- oh right. Radical leftist progressives.

Ehh, they changed the admissions process. That happens all the time. No one was required to contest it.

That's right. Just sit in the corner like good children and take your punishment for being too successful. We radical leftists know what is good for you and everyone else as we just need to feel self righteous and superior.

I'll be honest... we're not that concerned with what's best for YOU, because there are a lot more people than just YOU to consider.

We are more concerned with what's best for TJ. And we have enough experience to know that pretty well.

You sound so pompous

Well, they seem to grasp that it isn't just about their needs like privileged jerks spouting off.

Sure about that? They dont seem to lose anything from the new admission plan but everything to gain from it. Why not get behind a policy that gives some spots to black and latino kids if that policy also give their white privileged kids a much better chance at admission?

White kids were admitted at the same rate relative to their application numbers as they were previously. Their offer numbers increased because the class size increased and more of them applied. This has NEVER been about white kids - they don’t care about TJ.

[Anonymous]

20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.

20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.

20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

20% of TJ students should also be Asian?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.

20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

20% of TJ students should also be Asian?

Yes but only if all other key positions are 20%. You have to be consistent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.

20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

20% of TJ students should also be Asian?

Yes but only if all other key positions are 20%. You have to be consistent.

PP. I think everyone would agree that neither is a good idea. There are no TJ reform advocates who believe that TJ should be 20% Asian, but people choose to incorrectly ascribe that attitude to us because we see it as a positive when doors are opened to populations that have been entirely shut out of the process for generations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they do a lottery, they really should reopen and allow any 8th grader to apply.

Why?

By the way - no they shouldn't. The system cannot afford any further inputs at this point.

Just take the kids with 4.0's and the the ones who got the science question right. That will probably still be more than can be admitted. So then do lottery. Then spend the remaining time getting admissions right next year, instead of fighting in court. What a waste of time and resources!

Who started this whole mess?

- oh right. Radical leftist progressives.

Ehh, they changed the admissions process. That happens all the time. No one was required to contest it.

That's right. Just sit in the corner like good children and take your punishment for being too successful. We radical leftists know what is good for you and everyone else as we just need to feel self righteous and superior.

I'll be honest... we're not that concerned with what's best for YOU, because there are a lot more people than just YOU to consider.

We are more concerned with what's best for TJ. And we have enough experience to know that pretty well.

You sound so pompous

Well, they seem to grasp that it isn't just about their needs like privileged jerks spouting off.

Sure about that? They dont seem to lose anything from the new admission plan but everything to gain from it. Why not get behind a policy that gives some spots to black and latino kids if that policy also give their white privileged kids a much better chance at admission?

White kids were admitted at the same rate relative to their application numbers as they were previously. Their offer numbers increased because the class size increased and more of them applied. This has NEVER been about white kids - they don’t care about TJ.

Their representation still increases from 17% to 22%. They benefited from the change. If white kids/parents don't care about TJ, why did their application number increase? Maybe they're thinking that they have a better chance now with a new process that has a ridiculously low bar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.

20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

20% of TJ students should also be Asian?

Yes but only if all other key positions are 20%. You have to be consistent.

PP. I think everyone would agree that neither is a good idea. There are no TJ reform advocates who believe that TJ should be 20% Asian, but people choose to incorrectly ascribe that attitude to us because we see it as a positive when doors are opened to populations that have been entirely shut out of the process for generations.

Like for Asians and key County positions. Yes, Asians have been totally shut out of a County that Asians make up 20% for many years now. No member of the school board, no member of the Board of Supervisors, no member of County judges, no House delegates from the County, no representation in the top positions of FCPS, no representation in the leadership positions at TJ, no principals at any County schools, no representation at leadership positions at County police on and on and on. Why so quiet about these egregious complete and total lack of representation?