Timeline for TJ case?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But how does the 4th Circuit typically take?

6 months from the notice of appeal is the average timeline.

What about the emergency stay for the class of 2026? That can’t possibly take 6 months, right?

It won't. I would expect that to be settled some time in the area of spring break.

I am more and more convinced that FCPS will move to a lottery if the stay is not granted. TJ's process of welcoming the freshmen and getting staff hired was incredibly strained last year when admissions decisions were released in late June and students confirmed by mid-July.

In a way, I just wish that FCPS would make public that the lottery is their plan if the stay fails as it might put pressure on the C4TJ complainants to drop the suit. Two things are true:

1) Lotteries have always survived judicial scrutiny;

2) Lotteries would have a much greater impact on the Asian population than the current system.

Nah. No way the suit will be withdrawn when Jackson announced that she will recuse herself from the Harvard affirmative action case if confirmed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But how does the 4th Circuit typically take?

6 months from the notice of appeal is the average timeline.

What about the emergency stay for the class of 2026? That can’t possibly take 6 months, right?

It won't. I would expect that to be settled some time in the area of spring break.

I am more and more convinced that FCPS will move to a lottery if the stay is not granted. TJ's process of welcoming the freshmen and getting staff hired was incredibly strained last year when admissions decisions were released in late June and students confirmed by mid-July.

In a way, I just wish that FCPS would make public that the lottery is their plan if the stay fails as it might put pressure on the C4TJ complainants to drop the suit. Two things are true:

1) Lotteries have always survived judicial scrutiny;

2) Lotteries would have a much greater impact on the Asian population than the current system.

Nah. No way the suit will be withdrawn when Jackson announced that she will recuse herself from the Harvard affirmative action case if confirmed.

The Harvard case will have no impact on TJ. It is a case involving a private university, not a public secondary school.

Again, you have to look at impacts here. If I am HJ or YM, and I already have kids at TJ (one of them by the new admissions process!) I am shaking in my boots at the prospect that they might be subject to a lottery instead of the new process. And the longer this thing goes on, the more likely the lottery becomes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But how does the 4th Circuit typically take?

6 months from the notice of appeal is the average timeline.

What about the emergency stay for the class of 2026? That can’t possibly take 6 months, right?

It won't. I would expect that to be settled some time in the area of spring break.

I am more and more convinced that FCPS will move to a lottery if the stay is not granted. TJ's process of welcoming the freshmen and getting staff hired was incredibly strained last year when admissions decisions were released in late June and students confirmed by mid-July.

In a way, I just wish that FCPS would make public that the lottery is their plan if the stay fails as it might put pressure on the C4TJ complainants to drop the suit. Two things are true:

1) Lotteries have always survived judicial scrutiny;

2) Lotteries would have a much greater impact on the Asian population than the current system.

Nah. No way the suit will be withdrawn when Jackson announced that she will recuse herself from the Harvard affirmative action case if confirmed.

The Harvard case will have no impact on TJ. It is a case involving a private university, not a public secondary school.

Again, you have to look at impacts here. If I am HJ or YM, and I already have kids at TJ (one of them by the new admissions process!) I am shaking in my boots at the prospect that they might be subject to a lottery instead of the new process. And the longer this thing goes on, the more likely the lottery becomes.

It's being decided at the same time as the UNC case. That case is going to end up being the more important of the two precisely because it is a public university.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But how does the 4th Circuit typically take?

6 months from the notice of appeal is the average timeline.

What about the emergency stay for the class of 2026? That can’t possibly take 6 months, right?

It won't. I would expect that to be settled some time in the area of spring break.

I am more and more convinced that FCPS will move to a lottery if the stay is not granted. TJ's process of welcoming the freshmen and getting staff hired was incredibly strained last year when admissions decisions were released in late June and students confirmed by mid-July.

In a way, I just wish that FCPS would make public that the lottery is their plan if the stay fails as it might put pressure on the C4TJ complainants to drop the suit. Two things are true:

1) Lotteries have always survived judicial scrutiny;

2) Lotteries would have a much greater impact on the Asian population than the current system.

Nah. No way the suit will be withdrawn when Jackson announced that she will recuse herself from the Harvard affirmative action case if confirmed.

The Harvard case will have no impact on TJ. It is a case involving a private university, not a public secondary school.

Again, you have to look at impacts here. If I am HJ or YM, and I already have kids at TJ (one of them by the new admissions process!) I am shaking in my boots at the prospect that they might be subject to a lottery instead of the new process. And the longer this thing goes on, the more likely the lottery becomes.

It's being decided at the same time as the UNC case. That case is going to end up being the more important of the two precisely because it is a public university.

Once the case is thrown out there plenty of time to do a lottery.

[Anonymous]

If they do a lottery, they really should reopen and allow any 8th grader to apply.

[Anonymous]

The original recommendation from FCPS staff to the School Board in October 2020 was a lottery.

It would not be bad thing if that is where the class of 2025 lands.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But how does the 4th Circuit typically take?

6 months from the notice of appeal is the average timeline.

What about the emergency stay for the class of 2026? That can’t possibly take 6 months, right?

It won't. I would expect that to be settled some time in the area of spring break.

I am more and more convinced that FCPS will move to a lottery if the stay is not granted. TJ's process of welcoming the freshmen and getting staff hired was incredibly strained last year when admissions decisions were released in late June and students confirmed by mid-July.

In a way, I just wish that FCPS would make public that the lottery is their plan if the stay fails as it might put pressure on the C4TJ complainants to drop the suit. Two things are true:

1) Lotteries have always survived judicial scrutiny;

2) Lotteries would have a much greater impact on the Asian population than the current system.

Nah. No way the suit will be withdrawn when Jackson announced that she will recuse herself from the Harvard affirmative action case if confirmed.

The Harvard case will have no impact on TJ. It is a case involving a private university, not a public secondary school.

Again, you have to look at impacts here. If I am HJ or YM, and I already have kids at TJ (one of them by the new admissions process!) I am shaking in my boots at the prospect that they might be subject to a lottery instead of the new process. And the longer this thing goes on, the more likely the lottery becomes.

It's being decided at the same time as the UNC case. That case is going to end up being the more important of the two precisely because it is a public university.

Nevertheless, she won't recuse herself from the UNC case. So the question of her recusal won't be relevant to a case that is a nearer analog to TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If they do a lottery, they really should reopen and allow any 8th grader to apply.

Why?

By the way - no they shouldn't. The system cannot afford any further inputs at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they do a lottery, they really should reopen and allow any 8th grader to apply.

Why?

By the way - no they shouldn't. The system cannot afford any further inputs at this point.

Just take the kids with 4.0's and the the ones who got the science question right. That will probably still be more than can be admitted. So then do lottery. Then spend the remaining time getting admissions right next year, instead of fighting in court. What a waste of time and resources!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they do a lottery, they really should reopen and allow any 8th grader to apply.

Why?

By the way - no they shouldn't. The system cannot afford any further inputs at this point.

Just take the kids with 4.0's and the the ones who got the science question right. That will probably still be more than can be admitted. So then do lottery. Then spend the remaining time getting admissions right next year, instead of fighting in court. What a waste of time and resources!

Who started this whole mess?

- oh right. Radical leftist progressives.

[Anonymous]

A lottery without the current experience factors and penalty for attending an AAP center would probably be better than the system they were using. The process they chose really devalued STEM interest and readiness in favor of only diversity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they do a lottery, they really should reopen and allow any 8th grader to apply.

Why?

By the way - no they shouldn't. The system cannot afford any further inputs at this point.

Just take the kids with 4.0's and the the ones who got the science question right. That will probably still be more than can be admitted. So then do lottery. Then spend the remaining time getting admissions right next year, instead of fighting in court. What a waste of time and resources!

Who started this whole mess?

- oh right. Radical leftist progressives.

Ehh, they changed the admissions process. That happens all the time. No one was required to contest it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lottery without the current experience factors and penalty for attending an AAP center would probably be better than the system they were using. The process they chose really devalued STEM interest and readiness in favor of only diversity.

They can do a lottery based on middle school attended.

[Anonymous]

They can keep everything same and just remove experience factor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they do a lottery, they really should reopen and allow any 8th grader to apply.

Why?

By the way - no they shouldn't. The system cannot afford any further inputs at this point.

Just take the kids with 4.0's and the the ones who got the science question right. That will probably still be more than can be admitted. So then do lottery. Then spend the remaining time getting admissions right next year, instead of fighting in court. What a waste of time and resources!

Who started this whole mess?

- oh right. Radical leftist progressives.

Ehh, they changed the admissions process. That happens all the time. No one was required to contest it.

That's right. Just sit in the corner like good children and take your punishment for being too successful. We radical leftists know what is good for you and everyone else as we just need to feel self righteous and superior.