Crime in LA

Anonymous
Guys, let the looney-birds pretend it's not a problem. The pendulum has to swing back and forth. At this rate there will be a Republican Governor in California in 4 years. Normal everyday politically disinterested citizens are now impacted by crime and they will turn out and vote.
Anonymous
It’s laughable that these DA’s just pivot to intervention and prevention rhetoric, which has literally nothing to do with the jobs they were elected to fill.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s laughable that these DA’s just pivot to intervention and prevention rhetoric, which has literally nothing to do with the jobs they were elected to fill.


Right. They need to focus on their jobs, which is prosecuting the crimes that already happened.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Again, the question was where is there polling or documentation of a national DNC agenda to ignore gun crime?


Here is my issue.....

I don't doubt that there are Democrats who are opposed to the lax measures being taken by these progressive prosecutors. I am sure there are moderates out there that think the inclination to go easy on these repeat violent offenders is not good for society.

The problem is that there are no prominent Democrats, in these DA's districts, or any other district, speaking up AGAINST the policies that put these violent criminals back on the street. There is no outcry from the left. As they say, silence is complicity.


Did any of these DA's specifically run on a platform of being lax on gun crime? Can anyone show that they did? Or was there a bait-and-switch?


What is funny is how desperate you are to distance your party from its policies. You know enough to know these policies are radioactive to the general public, and you know darn well which party is pushing these policies.



What's funny is that for all of your handwaving you still haven't actually shown any specific evidence showing the party as a whole is specifically advocating for going weak on gun crimes. You say they are "pushing" it so show me a memo, a statement, ANYTHING to prove it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Again, the question was where is there polling or documentation of a national DNC agenda to ignore gun crime?


Here is my issue.....

I don't doubt that there are Democrats who are opposed to the lax measures being taken by these progressive prosecutors. I am sure there are moderates out there that think the inclination to go easy on these repeat violent offenders is not good for society.

The problem is that there are no prominent Democrats, in these DA's districts, or any other district, speaking up AGAINST the policies that put these violent criminals back on the street. There is no outcry from the left. As they say, silence is complicity.


Did any of these DA's specifically run on a platform of being lax on gun crime? Can anyone show that they did? Or was there a bait-and-switch?


What is funny is how desperate you are to distance your party from its policies. You know enough to know these policies are radioactive to the general public, and you know darn well which party is pushing these policies.



What's funny is that for all of your handwaving you still haven't actually shown any specific evidence showing the party as a whole is specifically advocating for going weak on gun crimes. You say they are "pushing" it so show me a memo, a statement, ANYTHING to prove it.


The fact that we have Soros-funded progressive Democrat DA's across the country who, instead of doing their jobs as prosecutors, are acting like they are public defenders or legislators changing the laws is evidence enough. These people are not interested in advocating for victims of crimes. They are advocating for the criminals. When Democrats start speaking up against these prosecutors and start taking a more reasonable approach to prosecuting violent crime, then we will reconsider what the Democrats stand for IRT crime and punishment. That has not happened.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Again, the question was where is there polling or documentation of a national DNC agenda to ignore gun crime?


Here is my issue.....

I don't doubt that there are Democrats who are opposed to the lax measures being taken by these progressive prosecutors. I am sure there are moderates out there that think the inclination to go easy on these repeat violent offenders is not good for society.

The problem is that there are no prominent Democrats, in these DA's districts, or any other district, speaking up AGAINST the policies that put these violent criminals back on the street. There is no outcry from the left. As they say, silence is complicity.


Did any of these DA's specifically run on a platform of being lax on gun crime? Can anyone show that they did? Or was there a bait-and-switch?


What is funny is how desperate you are to distance your party from its policies. You know enough to know these policies are radioactive to the general public, and you know darn well which party is pushing these policies.



What's funny is that for all of your handwaving you still haven't actually shown any specific evidence showing the party as a whole is specifically advocating for going weak on gun crimes. You say they are "pushing" it so show me a memo, a statement, ANYTHING to prove it.


The fact that we have Soros-funded progressive Democrat DA's across the country who, instead of doing their jobs as prosecutors, are acting like they are public defenders or legislators changing the laws is evidence enough. These people are not interested in advocating for victims of crimes. They are advocating for the criminals. When Democrats start speaking up against these prosecutors and start taking a more reasonable approach to prosecuting violent crime, then we will reconsider what the Democrats stand for IRT crime and punishment. That has not happened.


Ahh there it is, the "Soros" bogeyman. You know this is where you start to slip into looking like a conspiracy monger.

Even so, you STILL haven't shown any specific evidence of an "agenda" that specifically says to give gun crime a pass.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Again, the question was where is there polling or documentation of a national DNC agenda to ignore gun crime?


Here is my issue.....

I don't doubt that there are Democrats who are opposed to the lax measures being taken by these progressive prosecutors. I am sure there are moderates out there that think the inclination to go easy on these repeat violent offenders is not good for society.

The problem is that there are no prominent Democrats, in these DA's districts, or any other district, speaking up AGAINST the policies that put these violent criminals back on the street. There is no outcry from the left. As they say, silence is complicity.


There's hardly any prominent Republicans anywhere willing to speak out against violent right wing extremism like the violent attack on the US Capitol on 1/6 or the guy arrested on his way to assassinate Dr. Fauci, or the massive right wing propaganda machine that is fueling that violence and extremism with lies like Trump's Big Lie and anti-vaxx conspiracy theories. And the few who do get attacked by their own party.

So don't presume to tell me the right wing has any coherent policy to offer where it comes to containing violent crime. Shut down the toxic disinformation, denounce the extremism, join in the prosecution of those who participated in it and maybe THEN you will have some credibility, maybe THEN you might be worth listening to.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Again, the question was where is there polling or documentation of a national DNC agenda to ignore gun crime?


Here is my issue.....

I don't doubt that there are Democrats who are opposed to the lax measures being taken by these progressive prosecutors. I am sure there are moderates out there that think the inclination to go easy on these repeat violent offenders is not good for society.

The problem is that there are no prominent Democrats, in these DA's districts, or any other district, speaking up AGAINST the policies that put these violent criminals back on the street. There is no outcry from the left. As they say, silence is complicity.


There's hardly any prominent Republicans anywhere willing to speak out against violent right wing extremism like the violent attack on the US Capitol on 1/6 or the guy arrested on his way to assassinate Dr. Fauci, or the massive right wing propaganda machine that is fueling that violence and extremism with lies like Trump's Big Lie and anti-vaxx conspiracy theories. And the few who do get attacked by their own party.

So don't presume to tell me the right wing has any coherent policy to offer where it comes to containing violent crime. Shut down the toxic disinformation, denounce the extremism, join in the prosecution of those who participated in it and maybe THEN you will have some credibility, maybe THEN you might be worth listening to.


Give me a fricking break. Nearly every Republican - every one - has condemned the actions at the Capitol on Jan. 6.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Again, the question was where is there polling or documentation of a national DNC agenda to ignore gun crime?


Here is my issue.....

I don't doubt that there are Democrats who are opposed to the lax measures being taken by these progressive prosecutors. I am sure there are moderates out there that think the inclination to go easy on these repeat violent offenders is not good for society.

The problem is that there are no prominent Democrats, in these DA's districts, or any other district, speaking up AGAINST the policies that put these violent criminals back on the street. There is no outcry from the left. As they say, silence is complicity.


Did any of these DA's specifically run on a platform of being lax on gun crime? Can anyone show that they did? Or was there a bait-and-switch?


What is funny is how desperate you are to distance your party from its policies. You know enough to know these policies are radioactive to the general public, and you know darn well which party is pushing these policies.



What's funny is that for all of your handwaving you still haven't actually shown any specific evidence showing the party as a whole is specifically advocating for going weak on gun crimes. You say they are "pushing" it so show me a memo, a statement, ANYTHING to prove it.


The fact that we have Soros-funded progressive Democrat DA's across the country who, instead of doing their jobs as prosecutors, are acting like they are public defenders or legislators changing the laws is evidence enough. These people are not interested in advocating for victims of crimes. They are advocating for the criminals. When Democrats start speaking up against these prosecutors and start taking a more reasonable approach to prosecuting violent crime, then we will reconsider what the Democrats stand for IRT crime and punishment. That has not happened.


Ahh there it is, the "Soros" bogeyman. You know this is where you start to slip into looking like a conspiracy monger.

Even so, you STILL haven't shown any specific evidence of an "agenda" that specifically says to give gun crime a pass.


It's a fact, Skippy. Soros has funded just about every one of these far-left progressive DAs.

#FactsMatter

How about you give us an example of a Democrat speaking out against the actions of these prosecutors?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Again, the question was where is there polling or documentation of a national DNC agenda to ignore gun crime?


Here is my issue.....

I don't doubt that there are Democrats who are opposed to the lax measures being taken by these progressive prosecutors. I am sure there are moderates out there that think the inclination to go easy on these repeat violent offenders is not good for society.

The problem is that there are no prominent Democrats, in these DA's districts, or any other district, speaking up AGAINST the policies that put these violent criminals back on the street. There is no outcry from the left. As they say, silence is complicity.


Did any of these DA's specifically run on a platform of being lax on gun crime? Can anyone show that they did? Or was there a bait-and-switch?


What is funny is how desperate you are to distance your party from its policies. You know enough to know these policies are radioactive to the general public, and you know darn well which party is pushing these policies.



What's funny is that for all of your handwaving you still haven't actually shown any specific evidence showing the party as a whole is specifically advocating for going weak on gun crimes. You say they are "pushing" it so show me a memo, a statement, ANYTHING to prove it.


The fact that we have Soros-funded progressive Democrat DA's across the country who, instead of doing their jobs as prosecutors, are acting like they are public defenders or legislators changing the laws is evidence enough. These people are not interested in advocating for victims of crimes. They are advocating for the criminals. When Democrats start speaking up against these prosecutors and start taking a more reasonable approach to prosecuting violent crime, then we will reconsider what the Democrats stand for IRT crime and punishment. That has not happened.


Ahh there it is, the "Soros" bogeyman. You know this is where you start to slip into looking like a conspiracy monger.

Even so, you STILL haven't shown any specific evidence of an "agenda" that specifically says to give gun crime a pass.


They don't need to outright state their agenda. It is clear in their actions....

Exhibit 1: Larry Krasner - Philadelphia

In 2017, the year before District Attorney Larry Krasner took office, the city had 315 murders.

As of last night, the city had 499 murders, one short of the all-time record of 500, set back in 1990, at the height of the crack cocaine epidemic.

If Philadelphia continues on its current record pace, the city will finish this year with 563 murders, a 79% increase since Larry Krasner has been D.A.

Krasner has previously blamed the city's gun violence epidemic on the pandemic, poverty, the city's failing schools, as well as systemic racism. The one person Larry Krasner never blames is Larry Krasner.

Yet, according to statistics kept by the D.A.'s office, the conviction rate for prosecuting gun crimes in the D.A.'s office has dropped from 64% in 2017, the last year Seth Williams was D.A., all the way down to 35% this year under Progressive Larry Krasner, a decrease of 45%

Meanwhile, according to the D.A.'s own statistics, the number of gun crime cases withdrawn or dismissed by the D.A.'s office has more than doubled, rising from 27% in 2017, the last year Seth Williams was D.A., all the way up to 61% this year under Progressive Larry Krasner.


https://www.bigtrial.net/2021/11/under-larry-krasner-philly-has-almost.html
Anonymous
Exhibit 2 - George Gascon - LA, California

In the year since George Gascón became L.A. County District Attorney, his office has become ground zero for the national movement to end mass incarceration and address racial disparities in the criminal justice system. Among his most controversial policies are those aimed at reducing prison sentences for serious and violent felonies.

On Dec. 7, 2020, the day he took office, Gascón took aim at two common so-called sentencing enhancements L.A. prosecutors had used to lengthen prison time for tens of thousands of people accused of using guns while committing crimes and/or committing crimes for the benefit of a gang. The overwhelming majority of them were Black and Brown men.

Using the California Public Records Act, we obtained data on the filing of gang and gun sentencing enhancements — also called allegations — for the first half of each year from 2012 to 2021. The numbers reveal a tectonic shift.

The data shows the filing of gang allegations from January through June of this year plunged 99% compared with the average for the same time period over the previous nine years — from 2,289 to 30.
Prosecutors filed 731 gun allegations in the first six months of this year — that’s a 63% drop compared with the average of 1,973 in the first half of the previous nine years.


https://laist.com/news/criminal-justice/gang-gun-charges-plummet-under-da-gascon-sparking-debate-over-justice-and-safety
Anonymous
Anonymous
Blade runner was a documentary people!
Anonymous


A 26-year-old woman who pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting a 10-year-old girl in Palmdale might be sentenced to a short stay in juvenile hall or granted probation at a court hearing this month, sparking another round of outrage over Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. George Gascón’s all-or-nothing criminal justice reform platform.

The complicated case of Hannah Tubbs has drawn increasing frustration from law enforcement officials and politicians in recent weeks, who say the situation once again highlights the problem with Gascón’s blanket ban on trying juveniles as adults.

Tubbs, who identifies as female, was two weeks shy of her 18th birthday when prosecutors say she walked into the women’s restroom of a Denny’s restaurant in 2014, grabbed a 10-year-old girl by the throat and locked her in a stall, court records show. Tubbs then shoved her hand down the girl’s pants and sexually assaulted her, prosecutors say, stopping only after someone else entered the restroom.

The case drew widespread attention at the time, and the L.A. County Board of Supervisors issued a $20,000 reward for information leading to an arrest. But Tubbs was not linked to the crime until 2019, when her DNA was entered into a database after she was arrested on suspicion of battery in Idaho, said Lt. Richard Ruiz of the L.A. County Sheriff’s Department’s Special Victims Bureau.

She has also been arrested for battery, drug possession and probation violations in Idaho and Washington, where she also has a pending misdemeanor case, Ruiz said. Tubbs was convicted of assault with a deadly weapon in Kern County and faced a prior allegation of sexually assaulting a minor, which did not result in a prosecution, according to Ruiz and a review of court records. Several calls to the Kern County district attorney’s office seeking additional information on both cases were not returned.

The district attorney also expressed concern that Tubbs herself would be victimized if placed in an adult facility as a transgender woman and noted a probation report actually recommended Tubbs be sentenced to home confinement. Instead, Gascón said, prosecutors asked for Tubbs to be kept in custody for two years where she could receive treatment and therapy.

Anonymous
I'm not sure why these DA's are all pro defending the rights of criminals while working taxpayers get the shaft.
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