Philadelphia breaks all time murder rate

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Blame gun people. Anyone who owns a gun is at fault. Each and every one of them. Your neighbor. Your husband. Your son. Your father. They are all guilty. They created this. They are responsible. The blood is on their hands.

This is not true at all. Do you actually think if guns were to become illegal that criminals would dutifully take theirs to the police station to be melted down?

Mexico has some of the strictest gun laws in the world yet homicides are still rampant. Basically the only people who have guns are in the cartels. Which actually makes it worse for average Joe because they're now totally defenseless against them. https://www.wsj.com/articles/mexicos-soaring-murder-rate-proves-gun-control-is-deadly-11571696723

Europe and Australia managed to figure it out. You go door to door and take the guns. If you’re caught hiding one, you pay a fine equivalent to 1.5x your net worth and you go away for 5 years. Should take care of the holdouts pretty quick.

First, you are going to need to amend the Constitution. Good luck!

You sure about that? All we have to do is pack the court who will rule that Heller was wrongly decided and the words “well regulated militia” actually mean something. I wouldn’t take your supposed constitutional rights for granted. The Supreme Court is well on its way to debasing itself as a collection of party hacks. Once the damage is done, nothing will stop the New York’s and Californias of the world from passing and enforcing whatever laws they want. It’s not like the Supreme Court is going to send the Marshalls out to stop people from being thrown in state jail and their guns confiscated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And the years isn't even over yet 513 people have been murdered to date. You can see this pattern in all democrat run cities. At what point do citizens say enough is enough, these policies aren't working. Letting repeat violent offenders back out to commit yet more crimes with little or no bail puts ALL voters at risk.

And all the folks 18 months ago who screamed abolish/defund the police act like it never happened.

But what I don’t understand is given that the vast majority of the victims are poor POC why isn’t there any outrage amongst that community. The democrats assume they’ll always have the poor POC vote and yet fail that constituency repeatedly. Why the blond loyalty to a party machine that is so condescending don dismissive of their needs?

There is! But marginalized communities often don't speak up. They often feel it won't do any good, or they are afraid to for other reasons (like immigration status concerns). Politicians don't hear them, so they don't care about them. Even if they pretend that they do.

Bottom line is just to look at the conviction stats and which communities lose their fathers to jail. Also, snitches get stitches mentality. The whole thing is pretty intractable. Then you have liberals clamoring for reduced sentences and violence interruptors and restorative justice aaaaaand then crime skyrockets and you get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess replacing police with public safety engineers/associates doesn't really work.

Baltimore has followed a similar path. Murder rates on par with Iraq. Over 1000 murdered in 3 years.

Has any city actually “replaced police with public safety engineers/associates?”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess replacing police with public safety engineers/associates doesn't really work.

Baltimore has followed a similar path. Murder rates on par with Iraq. Over 1000 murdered in 3 years.

Has any city actually “replaced police with public safety engineers/associates?”

Anybody who wants to see 2024 go back to Trump should be absolutely giddy about the massive spike in crime. Sit back and enjoy it. The left (by way of social media) got what they wanted and now police are avoiding high risk stops where there is a increased likelihood of use of force. The results are as clear as they were predictable. Don't even get started about 'smash and grab'.

It's incumbent upon the right to play dirty in 2024 and make sure that the Democrat's eat the full brunt of this massive spike in crime and frame their platform around 'Defund the Police'. By then there will be several years of skyrocketing crime stats to pack into campaign commercials.

Let the left go on about bringing social workers to deal with violent criminals and dissect every shooting on Twitter by saying 'they could have shot him in his pinky toe' or 'why didn't they just shoot the knife out of her hand?' or 'they could have just tazed him'... Ultimately, humans are bottom line oriented creatures. I've reached the unfortunate conclusion that this is just one of those things where it will have to get much, much worse before it gets better. It will get better in 2024. Until then, enjoy threads like these and the occasional segment on CNN where somebody dares to point out certain trends....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess replacing police with public safety engineers/associates doesn't really work.

Baltimore has followed a similar path. Murder rates on par with Iraq. Over 1000 murdered in 3 years.

Has any city actually “replaced police with public safety engineers/associates?”

Anybody who wants to see 2024 go back to Trump should be absolutely giddy about the massive spike in crime. Sit back and enjoy it. The left (by way of social media) got what they wanted and now police are avoiding high risk stops where there is a increased likelihood of use of force. The results are as clear as they were predictable. Don't even get started about 'smash and grab'.

It's incumbent upon the right to play dirty in 2024 and make sure that the Democrat's eat the full brunt of this massive spike in crime and frame their platform around 'Defund the Police'. By then there will be several years of skyrocketing crime stats to pack into campaign commercials.

Let the left go on about bringing social workers to deal with violent criminals and dissect every shooting on Twitter by saying 'they could have shot him in his pinky toe' or 'why didn't they just shoot the knife out of her hand?' or 'they could have just tazed him'... Ultimately, humans are bottom line oriented creatures. I've reached the unfortunate conclusion that this is just one of those things where it will have to get much, much worse before it gets better. It will get better in 2024. Until then, enjoy threads like these and the occasional segment on CNN where somebody dares to point out certain trends....

So your answer is no, I take it. No city has actually “replaced police with public safety engineers/associates.” You’re just going to lie and say they have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have to wonder if any of these criminals were previously incarcerated and released because of Covid.

When localities were emptying prisons due to the pandemic, did anyone stop to think what the ramifications of that might be?

I would love to see specific stats of some of the people arrested of violent crimes and if they were some of those released because of Covid.

Me too, but that ain't gonna happen. Nobody in charge wants to face the embarrassment of their decisions being directly harmful. Many such cases!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have to wonder if any of these criminals were previously incarcerated and released because of Covid.

When localities were emptying prisons due to the pandemic, did anyone stop to think what the ramifications of that might be?

I would love to see specific stats of some of the people arrested of violent crimes and if they were some of those released because of Covid.

“Although it is too soon for formal evaluation of release programs implemented in response to COVID-19, early analysis of recidivism rates across the study suggests that released prisoners have not reoffended at high rates. This indicates that release programs have been successful, and, in a few jurisdictions, governments have confirmed their programs will be continued beyond the pandemic.”
https://www.dlapiper.com/~/media/files/insights/publications/2021/03/dla-piper-prison-population-during-covid-19.pdf?la=en&hash=F5C1EBBA0D3D86BDDA58FAC87DB9EF3CAE3815DF

[Anonymous]

The only thing that is going to stop violent crime immediately in its tracks in any city anywhere is to impose draconian measures like a curfew and mandatory jail time if caught outside during the curfew. The other is to confiscate all guns. Neither are going to happen. All the other solutions (like solving income inequality, common sense gun control, and various social programs) will take too long and will be hard to implement and therefore we will not attempt them or will abandon them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess replacing police with public safety engineers/associates doesn't really work.

Baltimore has followed a similar path. Murder rates on par with Iraq. Over 1000 murdered in 3 years.

Has any city actually “replaced police with public safety engineers/associates?”

Anybody who wants to see 2024 go back to Trump should be absolutely giddy about the massive spike in crime. Sit back and enjoy it. The left (by way of social media) got what they wanted and now police are avoiding high risk stops where there is a increased likelihood of use of force. The results are as clear as they were predictable. Don't even get started about 'smash and grab'.

It's incumbent upon the right to play dirty in 2024 and make sure that the Democrat's eat the full brunt of this massive spike in crime and frame their platform around 'Defund the Police'. By then there will be several years of skyrocketing crime stats to pack into campaign commercials.

Let the left go on about bringing social workers to deal with violent criminals and dissect every shooting on Twitter by saying 'they could have shot him in his pinky toe' or 'why didn't they just shoot the knife out of her hand?' or 'they could have just tazed him'... Ultimately, humans are bottom line oriented creatures. I've reached the unfortunate conclusion that this is just one of those things where it will have to get much, much worse before it gets better. It will get better in 2024. Until then, enjoy threads like these and the occasional segment on CNN where somebody dares to point out certain trends....

So your answer is no, I take it. No city has actually “replaced police with public safety engineers/associates.” You’re just going to lie and say they have.

They made it so challenging that many police officers quit or retired in large numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess replacing police with public safety engineers/associates doesn't really work.

Baltimore has followed a similar path. Murder rates on par with Iraq. Over 1000 murdered in 3 years.

Has any city actually “replaced police with public safety engineers/associates?”

Anybody who wants to see 2024 go back to Trump should be absolutely giddy about the massive spike in crime. Sit back and enjoy it. The left (by way of social media) got what they wanted and now police are avoiding high risk stops where there is a increased likelihood of use of force. The results are as clear as they were predictable. Don't even get started about 'smash and grab'.

It's incumbent upon the right to play dirty in 2024 and make sure that the Democrat's eat the full brunt of this massive spike in crime and frame their platform around 'Defund the Police'. By then there will be several years of skyrocketing crime stats to pack into campaign commercials.

Let the left go on about bringing social workers to deal with violent criminals and dissect every shooting on Twitter by saying 'they could have shot him in his pinky toe' or 'why didn't they just shoot the knife out of her hand?' or 'they could have just tazed him'... Ultimately, humans are bottom line oriented creatures. I've reached the unfortunate conclusion that this is just one of those things where it will have to get much, much worse before it gets better. It will get better in 2024. Until then, enjoy threads like these and the occasional segment on CNN where somebody dares to point out certain trends....

So your answer is no, I take it. No city has actually “replaced police with public safety engineers/associates.” You’re just going to lie and say they have.

They made it so challenging that many police officers quit or retired in large numbers.

+1 This. With all of the unwarranted BS attacks on law enforcement it’s no surprise that morale is desperately low and police forces are having trouble retaining and recruiting officers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have to wonder if any of these criminals were previously incarcerated and released because of Covid.

When localities were emptying prisons due to the pandemic, did anyone stop to think what the ramifications of that might be?

I would love to see specific stats of some of the people arrested of violent crimes and if they were some of those released because of Covid.

Prisons should not have released inmates but use the nursing homes strategy.

[Anonymous]

Actually I think a lot of the long term prison population: serial killers, child rapists, 1st degree pre-meditated murderers, school shooters should simply be executed - nothing drawn out - just simple firing squad day after conviction.

ban all assault weapons- period- they are weapons fo war and not intended for civilian areas. Sue the manufacturers every time a civilian is killed with one- ala how the tobacco companies and the opiod big pharma were put on the run.

Then, prisons can house for real jail time the rest: robbers, drunk drivers, manslaughter, arson, white colar crime, drug dealers for hard long sentences- including anyone who illegally owns a gun

Our society is littered with criminality and especially with regards to pedophiles, rapists and serial killers these people should simply not be among us again- ever.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess replacing police with public safety engineers/associates doesn't really work.

Baltimore has followed a similar path. Murder rates on par with Iraq. Over 1000 murdered in 3 years.

Has any city actually “replaced police with public safety engineers/associates?”

Anybody who wants to see 2024 go back to Trump should be absolutely giddy about the massive spike in crime. Sit back and enjoy it. The left (by way of social media) got what they wanted and now police are avoiding high risk stops where there is a increased likelihood of use of force. The results are as clear as they were predictable. Don't even get started about 'smash and grab'.

It's incumbent upon the right to play dirty in 2024 and make sure that the Democrat's eat the full brunt of this massive spike in crime and frame their platform around 'Defund the Police'. By then there will be several years of skyrocketing crime stats to pack into campaign commercials.

Let the left go on about bringing social workers to deal with violent criminals and dissect every shooting on Twitter by saying 'they could have shot him in his pinky toe' or 'why didn't they just shoot the knife out of her hand?' or 'they could have just tazed him'... Ultimately, humans are bottom line oriented creatures. I've reached the unfortunate conclusion that this is just one of those things where it will have to get much, much worse before it gets better. It will get better in 2024. Until then, enjoy threads like these and the occasional segment on CNN where somebody dares to point out certain trends....

Agree. I only wish the tough on crime policing that will inevitable come under Republican rule would extend somehow to the wards of dc. We’re run by an Uber liberal city council that feels bad prospecting criminals and does their best to make life easier for them. I never seem a group of people so identity within criminals over victims. Anyway, I was a Biden voter. Can we get Charlie Baker or Larry Hogan or someone moderate to run? I could vote for them but not for trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the years isn't even over yet 513 people have been murdered to date. You can see this pattern in all democrat run cities. At what point do citizens say enough is enough, these policies aren't working. Letting repeat violent offenders back out to commit yet more crimes with little or no bail puts ALL voters at risk.

And all the folks 18 months ago who screamed abolish/defund the police act like it never happened.

But what I don’t understand is given that the vast majority of the victims are poor POC why isn’t there any outrage amongst that community. The democrats assume they’ll always have the poor POC vote and yet fail that constituency repeatedly. Why the blond loyalty to a party machine that is so condescending don dismissive of their needs?

This is such a clueless response. People don’t speak up because they are scared. How would a Republican help solve this? And I never understand the argument of the GOP that city dwellers should vote R because Ds have failed them. How come Rs in failing red rural areas keeping voting for Rs?

They’re scared to vote? Good lord you’re an imbecile.

They are scared to speak up against the people committing the violence. The fact that went over your head proves that you are clueless. And again, if they vote R, how are things going to change for them?