Philadelphia breaks all time murder rate

Anonymous
I guess replacing police with public safety engineers/associates doesn't really work.

Baltimore has followed a similar path. Murder rates on par with Iraq. Over 1000 murdered in 3 years.
Anonymous
The country is awash in guns. Legal guns very easily become illegally acquired guns. Lots of straw buyers out there peddling guns on social media & the internet. It just takes a few clicks to find someone willing to sell you a handgun in a parking lot, no questions asked Suicides by gun are also rising in tandem with gun violence and murders.

It’s the presence of more & more guns that are the issue. Firearms per capita keep rising.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Blame gun people. Anyone who owns a gun is at fault. Each and every one of them. Your neighbor. Your husband. Your son. Your father. They are all guilty. They created this. They are responsible. The blood is on their hands.


This is not true at all. Do you actually think if guns were to become illegal that criminals would dutifully take theirs to the police station to be melted down?

Mexico has some of the strictest gun laws in the world yet homicides are still rampant. Basically the only people who have guns are in the cartels. Which actually makes it worse for average Joe because they're now totally defenseless against them. https://www.wsj.com/articles/mexicos-soaring-murder-rate-proves-gun-control-is-deadly-11571696723
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Blame gun people. Anyone who owns a gun is at fault. Each and every one of them. Your neighbor. Your husband. Your son. Your father. They are all guilty. They created this. They are responsible. The blood is on their hands.


This is not true at all. Do you actually think if guns were to become illegal that criminals would dutifully take theirs to the police station to be melted down?

Mexico has some of the strictest gun laws in the world yet homicides are still rampant. Basically the only people who have guns are in the cartels. Which actually makes it worse for average Joe because they're now totally defenseless against them. https://www.wsj.com/articles/mexicos-soaring-murder-rate-proves-gun-control-is-deadly-11571696723


Europe and Australia managed to figure it out. You go door to door and take the guns. If you’re caught hiding one, you pay a fine equivalent to 1.5x your net worth and you go away for 5 years. Should take care of the holdouts pretty quick.
Anonymous
So Philadelphia has a fully funded, fully staffed police department and the murder rate is at an all time high? Sounds like a great time to fire every single one of them for poor performance. They can figure out another way to earn six figures with no marketable skills to afford their McMansions in the burbs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When everyone can have a gun, what else do you expect? I thought this was what the GOP and NRA wanted - the freedom to settle your own disputes and be able to defend yourself.


In addition to more effective gun control, quit making excuses for repeat criminals and keep them behind bars. Darrell Brooks is a perfect example.


I was reading about the decrease in prison population the other day. Seems the reason is that the mass incarceration in 90's proved to be a strain economically on the states so they started paroling more of these criminals back out into community.

Some cities take a great number of them and seems section 8 housing vouchers are used some how. I know that is not supposed to happen, but serious criminals seem to be guaranteed rent if paid by the state and in some economically depressed areas where landlords can't find tenants steadily, they seem to take these vouchers. Granted, the property owners do not live in the community anymore so they don't care. There also might be tax breaks for shelters that house high concentrations of parolees in a given neighborhood.

City residents should all go on a website like ONX- Hunt ( an app for your phone) and look up who owns the homes, apartment buildings in your neighborhood. If you have a lot of shelters or section 8 housing- guaranteed you have concentration of recent parolees living there

Add to that the gun industry and strained police resources
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Blame gun people. Anyone who owns a gun is at fault. Each and every one of them. Your neighbor. Your husband. Your son. Your father. They are all guilty. They created this. They are responsible. The blood is on their hands.


This is not true at all. Do you actually think if guns were to become illegal that criminals would dutifully take theirs to the police station to be melted down?

Mexico has some of the strictest gun laws in the world yet homicides are still rampant. Basically the only people who have guns are in the cartels. Which actually makes it worse for average Joe because they're now totally defenseless against them. https://www.wsj.com/articles/mexicos-soaring-murder-rate-proves-gun-control-is-deadly-11571696723


Europe and Australia managed to figure it out. You go door to door and take the guns. If you’re caught hiding one, you pay a fine equivalent to 1.5x your net worth and you go away for 5 years. Should take care of the holdouts pretty quick.


That gets my Vote
Anonymous
It’s not the guns, it’s a culture of violence and criminality. And a criminal justice system that’s a revolving door.
Anonymous
The suicide and overdose death rates are astronomical, too.

We are missing something.
Anonymous
Unemployment + depression/ anxiety + addiction + firearms= breakdown of social fabric

If it helps to see it more objectively: just look at what happened to Native Americans when they lost their meaningful lifestyle and went to live on reservations.

No one has trouble drawing a straight line there, yet with uneducated, chronically unemployed and consumer based economy/ lifestyle everyone asks , " gee what is happening to America ???"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Unemployment + depression/ anxiety + addiction + firearms= breakdown of social fabric

If it helps to see it more objectively: just look at what happened to Native Americans when they lost their meaningful lifestyle and went to live on reservations.

No one has trouble drawing a straight line there, yet with uneducated, chronically unemployed and consumer based economy/ lifestyle everyone asks , " gee what is happening to America ???"


And if you remove guns from that equation then everything else instantly resolves. It’s very simple. Get rid of the guns, and all other problems will go away.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unemployment + depression/ anxiety + addiction + firearms= breakdown of social fabric

If it helps to see it more objectively: just look at what happened to Native Americans when they lost their meaningful lifestyle and went to live on reservations.

No one has trouble drawing a straight line there, yet with uneducated, chronically unemployed and consumer based economy/ lifestyle everyone asks , " gee what is happening to America ???"


And if you remove guns from that equation then everything else instantly resolves. It’s very simple. Get rid of the guns, and all other problems will go away.


You forgot the /s. But it goes without saying- guns make killing too easy. Yes, you can still mow someone down with a car, or stab them, or throw poison in their face. You could beat them or strangle them, or blow up their car or set fire to their home. But in every case the killer has to risk something themselves and there are multiple opportunities along the way to rethink and walk away. Absent explosives, nothing kills as many people at once than an assault rifle. Guns are the classic kill first think later weapon. Take them away and murders go down automatically, as just about every civilized nation has discovered.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Blame gun people. Anyone who owns a gun is at fault. Each and every one of them. Your neighbor. Your husband. Your son. Your father. They are all guilty. They created this. They are responsible. The blood is on their hands.


This is not true at all. Do you actually think if guns were to become illegal that criminals would dutifully take theirs to the police station to be melted down?

Mexico has some of the strictest gun laws in the world yet homicides are still rampant. Basically the only people who have guns are in the cartels. Which actually makes it worse for average Joe because they're now totally defenseless against them. https://www.wsj.com/articles/mexicos-soaring-murder-rate-proves-gun-control-is-deadly-11571696723


Europe and Australia managed to figure it out. You go door to door and take the guns. If you’re caught hiding one, you pay a fine equivalent to 1.5x your net worth and you go away for 5 years. Should take care of the holdouts pretty quick.


I would argue that most of these criminals have 0 networth and wouldn't mind being locked away for 5 years. Taking away guns only hurts honest citizens.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Blame gun people. Anyone who owns a gun is at fault. Each and every one of them. Your neighbor. Your husband. Your son. Your father. They are all guilty. They created this. They are responsible. The blood is on their hands.


This is not true at all. Do you actually think if guns were to become illegal that criminals would dutifully take theirs to the police station to be melted down?

Mexico has some of the strictest gun laws in the world yet homicides are still rampant. Basically the only people who have guns are in the cartels. Which actually makes it worse for average Joe because they're now totally defenseless against them. https://www.wsj.com/articles/mexicos-soaring-murder-rate-proves-gun-control-is-deadly-11571696723


Europe and Australia managed to figure it out. You go door to door and take the guns. If you’re caught hiding one, you pay a fine equivalent to 1.5x your net worth and you go away for 5 years. Should take care of the holdouts pretty quick.


First, you are going to need to amend the Constitution. Good luck!
Anonymous
I have to wonder if any of these criminals were previously incarcerated and released because of Covid.

When localities were emptying prisons due to the pandemic, did anyone stop to think what the ramifications of that might be?

I would love to see specific stats of some of the people arrested of violent crimes and if they were some of those released because of Covid.
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