What’s up with Santa Clara?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a top 50 school and it’s Jesuit. What’s not to like?

Is being Jesuit a positive?

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Depends on who you talk to. I'm finding more and more Catholics don't consider it a positive (I'm Catholic.)

Did you take a poll? Or have you decided that because you’re Catholic you can speak for all Catholics?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a top 50 school and it’s Jesuit. What’s not to like?

Is being Jesuit a positive?

If someone said that about a Jewish school, they”d be accused of being anti-Semitic. Catholic hate isn’t cool, PP.

It's not hate. Inquiring why that's a positive.

The values, service orientation, & beliefs.

I'm Catholic. If my children were going to go to a Catholic college, I'd look first at Jesuit and Augustinian. Not sure I'd consider others.

Notre Dame isn't good enough for you to consider?

Agree, PP is making a distinction without a difference. Benedictine colleges are great as are Holy Cross, etc.

I suspect PP was making a distinction based on the philosophies of the orders, which are quite different.

If your kid plans to study philosophy, theology, or get really involved in on-campus religious life it is perhaps something to consider but for everyone else I'm not sure why it really matters.

You are very literal. Their philosophy guides the school’s ethos and values. How open are they to other faith traditions? How welcoming are they of LGBTQ+ students? How much do they value open and free discourse? That’s why it matters.

Why should a Catholic school be "open to other faith traditions?" Would you expect a college of any other faith to be "open" like that? Should a Jewish university embrace "pepperoni pizza fridays?" Should a Muslim university encourage students to have a glass of wine with dinner?

The Jesuit philosophy is to be open, to be thoughtful and to question things. So yes, you expect it from a Jesuit school.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a top 50 school and it’s Jesuit. What’s not to like?

Is being Jesuit a positive?

If someone said that about a Jewish school, they”d be accused of being anti-Semitic. Catholic hate isn’t cool, PP.

It's not hate. Inquiring why that's a positive.

The values, service orientation, & beliefs.

I'm Catholic. If my children were going to go to a Catholic college, I'd look first at Jesuit and Augustinian. Not sure I'd consider others.

Notre Dame isn't good enough for you to consider?

Agree, PP is making a distinction without a difference. Benedictine colleges are great as are Holy Cross, etc.

I suspect PP was making a distinction based on the philosophies of the orders, which are quite different.

If your kid plans to study philosophy, theology, or get really involved in on-campus religious life it is perhaps something to consider but for everyone else I'm not sure why it really matters.

You are very literal. Their philosophy guides the school’s ethos and values. How open are they to other faith traditions? How welcoming are they of LGBTQ+ students? How much do they value open and free discourse? That’s why it matters.

Why should a Catholic school be "open to other faith traditions?" Would you expect a college of any other faith to be "open" like that? Should a Jewish university embrace "pepperoni pizza fridays?" Should a Muslim university encourage students to have a glass of wine with dinner?

The Jesuit philosophy is to be open, to be thoughtful and to question things. So yes, you expect it from a Jesuit school.

And that's exactly why many Catholics are not fans of Jesuit schools. If they are sending their kids to a Catholic school, they are expecting a Catholic education. Not an "open" education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a top 50 school and it’s Jesuit. What’s not to like?

Is being Jesuit a positive?

new poster here
Depends on who you talk to. I'm finding more and more Catholics don't consider it a positive (I'm Catholic.)

Did you take a poll? Or have you decided that because you’re Catholic you can speak for all Catholics?

I didn't say I speak for all Catholics--I didn't even say it's MY opinion. I say that with the Catholics that I talk to, there is not a favorable opinion of Jesuit schools. This is a different attitude from what I encourtered 20-30 years ago.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a top 50 school and it’s Jesuit. What’s not to like?

Is being Jesuit a positive?

new poster here
Depends on who you talk to. I'm finding more and more Catholics don't consider it a positive (I'm Catholic.)

Did you take a poll? Or have you decided that because you’re Catholic you can speak for all Catholics?

I didn't say I speak for all Catholics--I didn't even say it's MY opinion. I say that with the Catholics that I talk to, there is not a favorable opinion of Jesuit schools. This is a different attitude from what I encourtered 20-30 years ago.

How many Catholics have you discussed Jesuit education with? You’re talking out your ass and you know it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a top 50 school and it’s Jesuit. What’s not to like?

Is being Jesuit a positive?

new poster here
Depends on who you talk to. I'm finding more and more Catholics don't consider it a positive (I'm Catholic.)

Did you take a poll? Or have you decided that because you’re Catholic you can speak for all Catholics?

I didn't say I speak for all Catholics--I didn't even say it's MY opinion. I say that with the Catholics that I talk to, there is not a favorable opinion of Jesuit schools. This is a different attitude from what I encourtered 20-30 years ago.

How many Catholics have you discussed Jesuit education with? You’re talking out your ass and you know it.

No, I'm not. But obviously continuing this conversation with you is useless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a top 50 school and it’s Jesuit. What’s not to like?

Is being Jesuit a positive?

new poster here
Depends on who you talk to. I'm finding more and more Catholics don't consider it a positive (I'm Catholic.)

Did you take a poll? Or have you decided that because you’re Catholic you can speak for all Catholics?

I didn't say I speak for all Catholics--I didn't even say it's MY opinion. I say that with the Catholics that I talk to, there is not a favorable opinion of Jesuit schools. This is a different attitude from what I encourtered 20-30 years ago.

How many Catholics have you discussed Jesuit education with? You’re talking out your ass and you know it.

Maybe you and your friends are just conservative. I’m Catholic and I would only send my kids to Jesuit schools if they chose a Catholic college because of their value system.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a top 50 school and it’s Jesuit. What’s not to like?

Is being Jesuit a positive?

new poster here
Depends on who you talk to. I'm finding more and more Catholics don't consider it a positive (I'm Catholic.)

Did you take a poll? Or have you decided that because you’re Catholic you can speak for all Catholics?

I didn't say I speak for all Catholics--I didn't even say it's MY opinion. I say that with the Catholics that I talk to, there is not a favorable opinion of Jesuit schools. This is a different attitude from what I encourtered 20-30 years ago.

Your friends with conservatives.. my mom is conservative and jokes that Jesuit schools are not Catholic.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a top 50 school and it’s Jesuit. What’s not to like?

Is being Jesuit a positive?

new poster here
Depends on who you talk to. I'm finding more and more Catholics don't consider it a positive (I'm Catholic.)

Did you take a poll? Or have you decided that because you’re Catholic you can speak for all Catholics?

I didn't say I speak for all Catholics--I didn't even say it's MY opinion. I say that with the Catholics that I talk to, there is not a favorable opinion of Jesuit schools. This is a different attitude from what I encourtered 20-30 years ago.

How many Catholics have you discussed Jesuit education with? You’re talking out your ass and you know it.

Maybe you and your friends are just conservative. I’m Catholic and I would only send my kids to Jesuit schools if they chose a Catholic college because of their value system.

Only? Hum that’s odd. No to Notre Dame

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a top 50 school and it’s Jesuit. What’s not to like?

Is being Jesuit a positive?

new poster here
Depends on who you talk to. I'm finding more and more Catholics don't consider it a positive (I'm Catholic.)

Did you take a poll? Or have you decided that because you’re Catholic you can speak for all Catholics?

I didn't say I speak for all Catholics--I didn't even say it's MY opinion. I say that with the Catholics that I talk to, there is not a favorable opinion of Jesuit schools. This is a different attitude from what I encourtered 20-30 years ago.

How many Catholics have you discussed Jesuit education with? You’re talking out your ass and you know it.

Maybe you and your friends are just conservative. I’m Catholic and I would only send my kids to Jesuit schools if they chose a Catholic college because of their value system.

Agree!!!

[Anonymous]

A little bit like Bucknell or SMU but more californian

[Anonymous]

I'm not Catholic and I can clearly see how conservative Catholics and Jesuits could be at odds. We've raised our kids outside of the influence of religion but one of them is drawn to the values of the Jesuits and isn't turned off by the idea of a Jesuit college.

[Anonymous]

party school

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a top 50 school and it’s Jesuit. What’s not to like?

Is being Jesuit a positive?

If someone said that about a Jewish school, they”d be accused of being anti-Semitic. Catholic hate isn’t cool, PP.

It's not hate. Inquiring why that's a positive.

The values, service orientation, & beliefs.

I'm Catholic. If my children were going to go to a Catholic college, I'd look first at Jesuit and Augustinian. Not sure I'd consider others.

Notre Dame isn't good enough for you to consider?

Agree, PP is making a distinction without a difference. Benedictine colleges are great as are Holy Cross, etc.

I suspect PP was making a distinction based on the philosophies of the orders, which are quite different.

If your kid plans to study philosophy, theology, or get really involved in on-campus religious life it is perhaps something to consider but for everyone else I'm not sure why it really matters.

You are very literal. Their philosophy guides the school’s ethos and values. How open are they to other faith traditions? How welcoming are they of LGBTQ+ students? How much do they value open and free discourse? That’s why it matters.

You are very literal. There are a LOT of factors, IMO, that matter way more for those things than what religious order the school is. For example, I wouldn't be super inclined to send my gay kid to Boston College (Jesuit) but would happily send him to DePaul (Vincentian). Augustinian? The one I'm most familiar with is Villanova, and it's ethos is pretty much...preppy kids from Catholic high schools in the northeast.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a top 50 school and it’s Jesuit. What’s not to like?

Is being Jesuit a positive?

new poster here
Depends on who you talk to. I'm finding more and more Catholics don't consider it a positive (I'm Catholic.)

Did you take a poll? Or have you decided that because you’re Catholic you can speak for all Catholics?

I didn't say I speak for all Catholics--I didn't even say it's MY opinion. I say that with the Catholics that I talk to, there is not a favorable opinion of Jesuit schools. This is a different attitude from what I encourtered 20-30 years ago.

How many Catholics have you discussed Jesuit education with? You’re talking out your ass and you know it.

Maybe you and your friends are just conservative. I’m Catholic and I would only send my kids to Jesuit schools if they chose a Catholic college because of their value system.

Only? Hum that’s odd. No to Notre Dame

NP. Are you the same person that's been picking fights throughout this thread in the name of conservative Catholicism? I believe you used the Notre Dame example earlier.