It's not hate. Inquiring why that's a positive. |
IME most of the Jesuit "hate" is coming from Catholics. |
I'm aware of that. |
And that makes it OK? |
Transparent fail. |
Notice I put "hate" in quotes (because that is how a pp referred to it.) I don't see it as hate, but as criticism. Yes, criticism is ok. |
Note to self. Don't inquire about matters of theology or religion on DCUM. Someone will find it offensive. |
Or, since there is a rich history of Jesuit involvement in education, and this is a board focused on education, someone might be providing information that is relevant. IF you have something intelligent to add to the discussion, do it. Otherwise, look inward when considering prejudices. |
The values, service orientation, & beliefs. I'm Catholic. If my children were going to go to a Catholic college, I'd look first at Jesuit and Augustinian. Not sure I'd consider others. |
I'm the original "offensive" inquirer. Thank you for your response. |
Notre Dame isn't good enough for you to consider? |
San Pedro Square 3 miles away in downtown San Jose is the goto place for dining and nightlife. It's very popular with both Santa Clara and San Jose State students. |
Agree, PP is making a distinction without a difference. Benedictine colleges are great as are Holy Cross, etc. |
Conservative/“traditional” Catholics, perhaps. Jesuit schools tend to be more progressive, with a strong emphasis on social justice, open dialogue, and free inquiry. So, for example, they’ll allow pro-reproductive rights speakers to be invited to campus, might have an LGBTQ+ center, etc. |
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Georgetown Alum. My senior year I sat next to a retired dean that was a priest and I asked him what is the big deal that the school is Jesuit, because a speaker kept mentioning it. He said the Jesuit colleges promoted learning and scholarship more than other Catholic school orders. There was a group of Jesuit colleges that decided they were going to be more like other universities as part of their core mission of scholarship. The schools weren't going to so focused on Theology, Divinity and Spirituality. The colleges were more for the broader Catholic community and outsiders, vs. training the next generation of priests. Then he went on to say that Georgetown has a large Jewish faculty and student population and its muslim population is growing. He mentioned how they hired a Rabbi for a kosher kitchen and had plans for halal meals, and how they told all muslim students that are more than welcome to their their prayers in the chapel. I was pretty embarrassed I was so ignorant.
So the Jesuit schools are often the ones where you are surprised to learn they are Catholic schools when you first find out. They have a reputation of being liberal and some Catholics really like it and others don't. Honestly, I hadn't a clue. I'm not Catholic and didn't even know Georgetown was a Catholic school until I applied. |