1st grade is a bad as we suspected

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here - serious question. In a class of 20, where 14-15 kids can sit at their desk, follow basic instructions (get out the blue folder and your pencil), sit on the carpet without touching others, stand in a line, raise their hand etc. and 5 kids literally cannot/will not do these things no matter what you say or do, what is the best way to describe it? They are very clearly not behaviorally the same as the vast majority of their peers.

Five kids have a harder time sitting still than their peers.

Five kids have a harder time following instructions than others.

Five kids have a harder time staying quiet than others.

Focus on your observations of their behavior, not your assumptions about their brain function.

(Also, these observations are not surprising at all, given how many *Kindergartners* in this area were forced to do school via Zoom last year.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here - serious question. In a class of 20, where 14-15 kids can sit at their desk, follow basic instructions (get out the blue folder and your pencil), sit on the carpet without touching others, stand in a line, raise their hand etc. and 5 kids literally cannot/will not do these things no matter what you say or do, what is the best way to describe it? They are very clearly not behaviorally the same as the vast majority of their peers.

Oh I don’t know OP. On average does 25+ percent of the population have ADHD?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here - serious question. In a class of 20, where 14-15 kids can sit at their desk, follow basic instructions (get out the blue folder and your pencil), sit on the carpet without touching others, stand in a line, raise their hand etc. and 5 kids literally cannot/will not do these things no matter what you say or do, what is the best way to describe it? They are very clearly not behaviorally the same as the vast majority of their peers.

Oh I don’t know OP. On average does 25+ percent of the population have ADHD?

OP here. Based on the number of actually diagnosed kids in the upper grades, I’d say in our ES it’s probably 1 in 5 has some kind of IEP. Not all for ADHD but most. And this I DO know because subs get a list of IEPs and accommodations in every class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here - serious question. In a class of 20, where 14-15 kids can sit at their desk, follow basic instructions (get out the blue folder and your pencil), sit on the carpet without touching others, stand in a line, raise their hand etc. and 5 kids literally cannot/will not do these things no matter what you say or do, what is the best way to describe it? They are very clearly not behaviorally the same as the vast majority of their peers.

Sounds like the teacher needs to develop new strategies. They’re behind. But throwing up your hands and trashing their parents isn’t fair.

I sent my 3 year old to preschool last year. I had the privilege to do so.

OP here. I didn’t trash the parents? Maybe you are the one assuming it’s the parents fault?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My sister is a teacher and reports the same about first grade. We pulled her to do K at private and my sister urged us to stay for first grade because she knew this is what it would be like this year. I’m really hoping we can switch back to public for second grade. It’s a disgrace what public schools in this region did to kids last year.

My sister, a special Ed teacher, reports the same for first and second grade. We worked incredibly hard with our now second grader last year. It was miserable for all. I can only imagine how far behind other kids were whose parents could not do the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here - serious question. In a class of 20, where 14-15 kids can sit at their desk, follow basic instructions (get out the blue folder and your pencil), sit on the carpet without touching others, stand in a line, raise their hand etc. and 5 kids literally cannot/will not do these things no matter what you say or do, what is the best way to describe it? They are very clearly not behaviorally the same as the vast majority of their peers.

Sounds like the teacher needs to develop new strategies. They’re behind. But throwing up your hands and trashing their parents isn’t fair.

I sent my 3 year old to preschool last year. I had the privilege to do so.

OP here. I didn’t trash the parents? Maybe you are the one assuming it’s the parents fault?

Sorry I jumped ahead a little. It will get there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a first grade mom. Fortunately my kid is doing great because we hired a pod teacher and allowed play dates for socialization. But from check ins with her teacher, I’m under the impression she is now way ahead of her peers. And there have been some class-wide emails about behavior issues the teacher is asking us to address at home and I’m so grateful my child isn’t involved, but I also feel horrible for the school staff dealing with this. This group of kids really was an after thought throughout the pandemic.

You should feel bad for your child. Her class is probably a chaotic mess and she is probably bored to death.

I do feel bad for her. For the other kids who are behind. For the teacher. I also have a lot of anger at society for deciding it was ok to sacrifice this age group to save by and large the elderly. We could have had kids masked and in school last year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a first grade mom. Fortunately my kid is doing great because we hired a pod teacher and allowed play dates for socialization. But from check ins with her teacher, I’m under the impression she is now way ahead of her peers. And there have been some class-wide emails about behavior issues the teacher is asking us to address at home and I’m so grateful my child isn’t involved, but I also feel horrible for the school staff dealing with this. This group of kids really was an after thought throughout the pandemic.

You should feel bad for your child. Her class is probably a chaotic mess and she is probably bored to death.

I do feel bad for her. For the other kids who are behind. For the teacher. I also have a lot of anger at society for deciding it was ok to sacrifice this age group to save by and large the elderly. We could have had kids masked and in school last year.

Yes, so many of us parents of young elementary school students were screaming from the rooftops last year that the kids were not okay and no one cared at all. Instead we got a bunch of gaslighting emails from school administrators patting themselves on the back and claiming there was little to no learning loss.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a first grade mom. Fortunately my kid is doing great because we hired a pod teacher and allowed play dates for socialization. But from check ins with her teacher, I’m under the impression she is now way ahead of her peers. And there have been some class-wide emails about behavior issues the teacher is asking us to address at home and I’m so grateful my child isn’t involved, but I also feel horrible for the school staff dealing with this. This group of kids really was an after thought throughout the pandemic.

You should feel bad for your child. Her class is probably a chaotic mess and she is probably bored to death.

I do feel bad for her. For the other kids who are behind. For the teacher. I also have a lot of anger at society for deciding it was ok to sacrifice this age group to save by and large the elderly. We could have had kids masked and in school last year.

Yes, so many of us parents of young elementary school students were screaming from the rooftops last year that the kids were not okay and no one cared at all. Instead we got a bunch of gaslighting emails from school administrators patting themselves on the back and claiming there was little to no learning loss.

There was a pandemic. The schools did the right thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a first grade mom. Fortunately my kid is doing great because we hired a pod teacher and allowed play dates for socialization. But from check ins with her teacher, I’m under the impression she is now way ahead of her peers. And there have been some class-wide emails about behavior issues the teacher is asking us to address at home and I’m so grateful my child isn’t involved, but I also feel horrible for the school staff dealing with this. This group of kids really was an after thought throughout the pandemic.

You should feel bad for your child. Her class is probably a chaotic mess and she is probably bored to death.

I do feel bad for her. For the other kids who are behind. For the teacher. I also have a lot of anger at society for deciding it was ok to sacrifice this age group to save by and large the elderly. We could have had kids masked and in school last year.

Yes, so many of us parents of young elementary school students were screaming from the rooftops last year that the kids were not okay and no one cared at all. Instead we got a bunch of gaslighting emails from school administrators patting themselves on the back and claiming there was little to no learning loss.

You understand that the principal and the teachers had no say over when school reopened. It was entirely up to the superintendent and the school board. Be mad at them, not your individual school staff. They are the ones dealing with the fallout, and they are not responsible for causing the issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a first grade mom. Fortunately my kid is doing great because we hired a pod teacher and allowed play dates for socialization. But from check ins with her teacher, I’m under the impression she is now way ahead of her peers. And there have been some class-wide emails about behavior issues the teacher is asking us to address at home and I’m so grateful my child isn’t involved, but I also feel horrible for the school staff dealing with this. This group of kids really was an after thought throughout the pandemic.

You should feel bad for your child. Her class is probably a chaotic mess and she is probably bored to death.

I do feel bad for her. For the other kids who are behind. For the teacher. I also have a lot of anger at society for deciding it was ok to sacrifice this age group to save by and large the elderly. We could have had kids masked and in school last year.

Yes, so many of us parents of young elementary school students were screaming from the rooftops last year that the kids were not okay and no one cared at all. Instead we got a bunch of gaslighting emails from school administrators patting themselves on the back and claiming there was little to no learning loss.

There was a pandemic. The schools did the right thing.

Yeah, there’s still a pandemic with a variant more dangerous to young kids and yet somehow the schools are now open.

[Anonymous]

If you are such an academically superior specimen and we all need to learn from you, why are you a substitute teacher?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh gee, a substitute teacher who thinks she’s qualified to diagnose ADHD in 6 and 7 yos, when even experts will tell you that at those ages many kids will grow out of their supposed ADHD symptoms within a year or two as they mature.

Wow. The post went right over your head didn’t it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a first grade mom. Fortunately my kid is doing great because we hired a pod teacher and allowed play dates for socialization. But from check ins with her teacher, I’m under the impression she is now way ahead of her peers. And there have been some class-wide emails about behavior issues the teacher is asking us to address at home and I’m so grateful my child isn’t involved, but I also feel horrible for the school staff dealing with this. This group of kids really was an after thought throughout the pandemic.

You should feel bad for your child. Her class is probably a chaotic mess and she is probably bored to death.

I do feel bad for her. For the other kids who are behind. For the teacher. I also have a lot of anger at society for deciding it was ok to sacrifice this age group to save by and large the elderly. We could have had kids masked and in school last year.

Yes, so many of us parents of young elementary school students were screaming from the rooftops last year that the kids were not okay and no one cared at all. Instead we got a bunch of gaslighting emails from school administrators patting themselves on the back and claiming there was little to no learning loss.

You understand that the principal and the teachers had no say over when school reopened. It was entirely up to the superintendent and the school board. Be mad at them, not your individual school staff. They are the ones dealing with the fallout, and they are not responsible for causing the issue.

True- when I said school administrators I was really primarily referring to the superintendents. However I am disappointed that more teachers/principals in this area didn’t join parents in speaking up as to the importance of getting young kids back in the classrooms last year.

[Anonymous]

If they're really that far behind then they should be held back at the end of the year.