TJ admission should be a pure lottery for all who meet application requirements.

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Anonymous wrote:Well it was not meeting it prior to this year either given how many kids were prepping for the test. If it was to really serve the tippy top kids that “need” TJ those kids would not need to prep. The whole factory business of prep schools made a mockery of that supposed goal TJ was trying to serve. So unless they can figure out a way around the preppers and the years long planning people did to strategize what activities to do to get in….I am happier with the new system.

Just shut the f up. It was the number 1 high school in the U.S. Clearly, the admissions process was getting the best and brightest. Stop all the Asian hate.

It was ranked number 1 by several publications because of the students' performance on standardized exams. Given that the admissions process overselected for test-taking ability and incentivized expensive and time-consuming courses, it shouldn't be surprising that the school ranked highly in those metrics.

Also, who said anything about Asians? Is the Asian identity so wrapped up in TJ that you can't separate the two?

You people say "preppers" to mean Asians. And it is ranked number 1 based on 6 criteria. No one cares about performance deciding a competitive process until its dominated by Asians. You are such a racist.

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Anonymous wrote:Well it was not meeting it prior to this year either given how many kids were prepping for the test. If it was to really serve the tippy top kids that “need” TJ those kids would not need to prep. The whole factory business of prep schools made a mockery of that supposed goal TJ was trying to serve. So unless they can figure out a way around the preppers and the years long planning people did to strategize what activities to do to get in….I am happier with the new system.

Just shut the f up. It was the number 1 high school in the U.S. Clearly, the admissions process was getting the best and brightest. Stop all the Asian hate.

It was ranked number 1 by several publications because of the students' performance on standardized exams. Given that the admissions process overselected for test-taking ability and incentivized expensive and time-consuming courses, it shouldn't be surprising that the school ranked highly in those metrics.

Also, who said anything about Asians? Is the Asian identity so wrapped up in TJ that you can't separate the two?

You people say "preppers" to mean Asians. And it is ranked number 1 based on 6 criteria. No one cares about performance deciding a competitive process until its dominated by Asians. You are such a racist.

"You people". Real nice.

If you knew anything about TJ you would know that there are dozens of "preppers" who get in every year who are NOT Asians, and there are dozens of Asians who get in every year who are NOT "preppers". You're creating a false equivalency to prop up your tired narrative of persecution. That narrative lost for a reason. It's ugly, childish, and smacks of privilege.

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Anonymous wrote:Well it was not meeting it prior to this year either given how many kids were prepping for the test. If it was to really serve the tippy top kids that “need” TJ those kids would not need to prep. The whole factory business of prep schools made a mockery of that supposed goal TJ was trying to serve. So unless they can figure out a way around the preppers and the years long planning people did to strategize what activities to do to get in….I am happier with the new system.

Just shut the f up. It was the number 1 high school in the U.S. Clearly, the admissions process was getting the best and brightest. Stop all the Asian hate.

It was ranked number 1 by several publications because of the students' performance on standardized exams. Given that the admissions process overselected for test-taking ability and incentivized expensive and time-consuming courses, it shouldn't be surprising that the school ranked highly in those metrics.

Also, who said anything about Asians? Is the Asian identity so wrapped up in TJ that you can't separate the two?

You people say "preppers" to mean Asians. And it is ranked number 1 based on 6 criteria. No one cares about performance deciding a competitive process until its dominated by Asians. You are such a racist.

I'm not Pp you are arguing with but i am the one who said that the "preppers" gutted any sense of TJ's "true purpose" as being a school for the super gifted kids who "really need it". I stand by that. I frankly don't care what race they are - I don't like the notion of incentivizing a system that requires the kids to go to outside classes to prep for an entrance test and to plan years ahead with private extracurriculers to put on their application. If there were a way to more naturally select teh kids who "really need it" I'd support that. Since there's not, I support dialing down the crazy amp-up to TJ applications and think the % per school and revisions to the process seem a decent way to try to get there. I don't care at all about increasing URM shares at TJ (nice but not my personal priority); I'm just saying that I prefer the new approach when considering if it would be a good fit for my own child.

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Anonymous wrote:Well it was not meeting it prior to this year either given how many kids were prepping for the test. If it was to really serve the tippy top kids that “need” TJ those kids would not need to prep. The whole factory business of prep schools made a mockery of that supposed goal TJ was trying to serve. So unless they can figure out a way around the preppers and the years long planning people did to strategize what activities to do to get in….I am happier with the new system.

Just shut the f up. It was the number 1 high school in the U.S. Clearly, the admissions process was getting the best and brightest. Stop all the Asian hate.

It was ranked number 1 by several publications because of the students' performance on standardized exams. Given that the admissions process overselected for test-taking ability and incentivized expensive and time-consuming courses, it shouldn't be surprising that the school ranked highly in those metrics.

Also, who said anything about Asians? Is the Asian identity so wrapped up in TJ that you can't separate the two?

You people say "preppers" to mean Asians. And it is ranked number 1 based on 6 criteria. No one cares about performance deciding a competitive process until its dominated by Asians. You are such a racist.

I'm not Pp you are arguing with but i am the one who said that the "preppers" gutted any sense of TJ's "true purpose" as being a school for the super gifted kids who "really need it". I stand by that. I frankly don't care what race they are - I don't like the notion of incentivizing a system that requires the kids to go to outside classes to prep for an entrance test and to plan years ahead with private extracurriculers to put on their application. If there were a way to more naturally select teh kids who "really need it" I'd support that. Since there's not, I support dialing down the crazy amp-up to TJ applications and think the % per school and revisions to the process seem a decent way to try to get there. I don't care at all about increasing URM shares at TJ (nice but not my personal priority); I'm just saying that I prefer the new approach when considering if it would be a good fit for my own child.

If I understand well, current criteria now favor: having the disposable income to buy a rental property in an admissions-favorable school zone; having the means to groom a flawless, empty GPA; having the ability to write a persuasive sob story. Ostensibly, this was done to make it more difficult for wealthy, over-privileged, politically-connected people to gain a leg up on the admissions process.

I don't have a sense for the exact degree to which prep has distorted the picture of who is truly advanced/gifted. I am pretty confident, though, that the perceptions of impact have been heavily skewed by racial bias.

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Anonymous wrote:Well it was not meeting it prior to this year either given how many kids were prepping for the test. If it was to really serve the tippy top kids that “need” TJ those kids would not need to prep. The whole factory business of prep schools made a mockery of that supposed goal TJ was trying to serve. So unless they can figure out a way around the preppers and the years long planning people did to strategize what activities to do to get in….I am happier with the new system.

Just shut the f up. It was the number 1 high school in the U.S. Clearly, the admissions process was getting the best and brightest. Stop all the Asian hate.

It was ranked number 1 by several publications because of the students' performance on standardized exams. Given that the admissions process overselected for test-taking ability and incentivized expensive and time-consuming courses, it shouldn't be surprising that the school ranked highly in those metrics.

Also, who said anything about Asians? Is the Asian identity so wrapped up in TJ that you can't separate the two?

You people say "preppers" to mean Asians. And it is ranked number 1 based on 6 criteria. No one cares about performance deciding a competitive process until its dominated by Asians. You are such a racist.

I'm not Pp you are arguing with but i am the one who said that the "preppers" gutted any sense of TJ's "true purpose" as being a school for the super gifted kids who "really need it". I stand by that. I frankly don't care what race they are - I don't like the notion of incentivizing a system that requires the kids to go to outside classes to prep for an entrance test and to plan years ahead with private extracurriculers to put on their application. If there were a way to more naturally select teh kids who "really need it" I'd support that. Since there's not, I support dialing down the crazy amp-up to TJ applications and think the % per school and revisions to the process seem a decent way to try to get there. I don't care at all about increasing URM shares at TJ (nice but not my personal priority); I'm just saying that I prefer the new approach when considering if it would be a good fit for my own child.

If I understand well, current criteria now favor: having the disposable income to buy a rental property in an admissions-favorable school zone; having the means to groom a flawless, empty GPA; having the ability to write a persuasive sob story. Ostensibly, this was done to make it more difficult for wealthy, over-privileged, politically-connected people to gain a leg up on the admissions process.

I don't have a sense for the exact degree to which prep has distorted the picture of who is truly advanced/gifted. I am pretty confident, though, that the perceptions of impact have been heavily skewed by racial bias.

Thankfully, you do not understand well.

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Anonymous wrote:Well it was not meeting it prior to this year either given how many kids were prepping for the test. If it was to really serve the tippy top kids that “need” TJ those kids would not need to prep. The whole factory business of prep schools made a mockery of that supposed goal TJ was trying to serve. So unless they can figure out a way around the preppers and the years long planning people did to strategize what activities to do to get in….I am happier with the new system.

Just shut the f up. It was the number 1 high school in the U.S. Clearly, the admissions process was getting the best and brightest. Stop all the Asian hate.

It was ranked number 1 by several publications because of the students' performance on standardized exams. Given that the admissions process overselected for test-taking ability and incentivized expensive and time-consuming courses, it shouldn't be surprising that the school ranked highly in those metrics.

Also, who said anything about Asians? Is the Asian identity so wrapped up in TJ that you can't separate the two?

You people say "preppers" to mean Asians. And it is ranked number 1 based on 6 criteria. No one cares about performance deciding a competitive process until its dominated by Asians. You are such a racist.

I'm not Pp you are arguing with but i am the one who said that the "preppers" gutted any sense of TJ's "true purpose" as being a school for the super gifted kids who "really need it". I stand by that. I frankly don't care what race they are - I don't like the notion of incentivizing a system that requires the kids to go to outside classes to prep for an entrance test and to plan years ahead with private extracurriculers to put on their application. If there were a way to more naturally select teh kids who "really need it" I'd support that. Since there's not, I support dialing down the crazy amp-up to TJ applications and think the % per school and revisions to the process seem a decent way to try to get there. I don't care at all about increasing URM shares at TJ (nice but not my personal priority); I'm just saying that I prefer the new approach when considering if it would be a good fit for my own child.

If I understand well, current criteria now favor: having the disposable income to buy a rental property in an admissions-favorable school zone; having the means to groom a flawless, empty GPA; having the ability to write a persuasive sob story. Ostensibly, this was done to make it more difficult for wealthy, over-privileged, politically-connected people to gain a leg up on the admissions process.

I don't have a sense for the exact degree to which prep has distorted the picture of who is truly advanced/gifted. I am pretty confident, though, that the perceptions of impact have been heavily skewed by racial bias.

Thankfully, you do not understand well.

Let's just shut down TJ at this point. It's too divisive. Not worth the resources.

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Anonymous wrote:Well it was not meeting it prior to this year either given how many kids were prepping for the test. If it was to really serve the tippy top kids that “need” TJ those kids would not need to prep. The whole factory business of prep schools made a mockery of that supposed goal TJ was trying to serve. So unless they can figure out a way around the preppers and the years long planning people did to strategize what activities to do to get in….I am happier with the new system.

Just shut the f up. It was the number 1 high school in the U.S. Clearly, the admissions process was getting the best and brightest. Stop all the Asian hate.

It was ranked number 1 by several publications because of the students' performance on standardized exams. Given that the admissions process overselected for test-taking ability and incentivized expensive and time-consuming courses, it shouldn't be surprising that the school ranked highly in those metrics.

Also, who said anything about Asians? Is the Asian identity so wrapped up in TJ that you can't separate the two?

You people say "preppers" to mean Asians. And it is ranked number 1 based on 6 criteria. No one cares about performance deciding a competitive process until its dominated by Asians. You are such a racist.

I'm not Pp you are arguing with but i am the one who said that the "preppers" gutted any sense of TJ's "true purpose" as being a school for the super gifted kids who "really need it". I stand by that. I frankly don't care what race they are - I don't like the notion of incentivizing a system that requires the kids to go to outside classes to prep for an entrance test and to plan years ahead with private extracurriculers to put on their application. If there were a way to more naturally select teh kids who "really need it" I'd support that. Since there's not, I support dialing down the crazy amp-up to TJ applications and think the % per school and revisions to the process seem a decent way to try to get there. I don't care at all about increasing URM shares at TJ (nice but not my personal priority); I'm just saying that I prefer the new approach when considering if it would be a good fit for my own child.

If I understand well, current criteria now favor: having the disposable income to buy a rental property in an admissions-favorable school zone; having the means to groom a flawless, empty GPA; having the ability to write a persuasive sob story. Ostensibly, this was done to make it more difficult for wealthy, over-privileged, politically-connected people to gain a leg up on the admissions process.

I don't have a sense for the exact degree to which prep has distorted the picture of who is truly advanced/gifted. I am pretty confident, though, that the perceptions of impact have been heavily skewed by racial bias.

Thankfully, you do not understand well.

If only logic worked the way you think it does, we could all be equally reassured.

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Anonymous wrote:Well it was not meeting it prior to this year either given how many kids were prepping for the test. If it was to really serve the tippy top kids that “need” TJ those kids would not need to prep. The whole factory business of prep schools made a mockery of that supposed goal TJ was trying to serve. So unless they can figure out a way around the preppers and the years long planning people did to strategize what activities to do to get in….I am happier with the new system.

Just shut the f up. It was the number 1 high school in the U.S. Clearly, the admissions process was getting the best and brightest. Stop all the Asian hate.

It was ranked number 1 by several publications because of the students' performance on standardized exams. Given that the admissions process overselected for test-taking ability and incentivized expensive and time-consuming courses, it shouldn't be surprising that the school ranked highly in those metrics.

Also, who said anything about Asians? Is the Asian identity so wrapped up in TJ that you can't separate the two?

You people say "preppers" to mean Asians. And it is ranked number 1 based on 6 criteria. No one cares about performance deciding a competitive process until its dominated by Asians. You are such a racist.

I'm not Pp you are arguing with but i am the one who said that the "preppers" gutted any sense of TJ's "true purpose" as being a school for the super gifted kids who "really need it". I stand by that. I frankly don't care what race they are - I don't like the notion of incentivizing a system that requires the kids to go to outside classes to prep for an entrance test and to plan years ahead with private extracurriculers to put on their application. If there were a way to more naturally select teh kids who "really need it" I'd support that. Since there's not, I support dialing down the crazy amp-up to TJ applications and think the % per school and revisions to the process seem a decent way to try to get there. I don't care at all about increasing URM shares at TJ (nice but not my personal priority); I'm just saying that I prefer the new approach when considering if it would be a good fit for my own child.

If I understand well, current criteria now favor: having the disposable income to buy a rental property in an admissions-favorable school zone; having the means to groom a flawless, empty GPA; having the ability to write a persuasive sob story. Ostensibly, this was done to make it more difficult for wealthy, over-privileged, politically-connected people to gain a leg up on the admissions process.

I don't have a sense for the exact degree to which prep has distorted the picture of who is truly advanced/gifted. I am pretty confident, though, that the perceptions of impact have been heavily skewed by racial bias.

The kids have to be above average for that to work to begin with.

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Anonymous wrote:Well it was not meeting it prior to this year either given how many kids were prepping for the test. If it was to really serve the tippy top kids that “need” TJ those kids would not need to prep. The whole factory business of prep schools made a mockery of that supposed goal TJ was trying to serve. So unless they can figure out a way around the preppers and the years long planning people did to strategize what activities to do to get in….I am happier with the new system.

Just shut the f up. It was the number 1 high school in the U.S. Clearly, the admissions process was getting the best and brightest. Stop all the Asian hate.

It was ranked number 1 by several publications because of the students' performance on standardized exams. Given that the admissions process overselected for test-taking ability and incentivized expensive and time-consuming courses, it shouldn't be surprising that the school ranked highly in those metrics.

Also, who said anything about Asians? Is the Asian identity so wrapped up in TJ that you can't separate the two?

You people say "preppers" to mean Asians. And it is ranked number 1 based on 6 criteria. No one cares about performance deciding a competitive process until its dominated by Asians. You are such a racist.

I'm not Pp you are arguing with but i am the one who said that the "preppers" gutted any sense of TJ's "true purpose" as being a school for the super gifted kids who "really need it". I stand by that. I frankly don't care what race they are - I don't like the notion of incentivizing a system that requires the kids to go to outside classes to prep for an entrance test and to plan years ahead with private extracurriculers to put on their application. If there were a way to more naturally select teh kids who "really need it" I'd support that. Since there's not, I support dialing down the crazy amp-up to TJ applications and think the % per school and revisions to the process seem a decent way to try to get there. I don't care at all about increasing URM shares at TJ (nice but not my personal priority); I'm just saying that I prefer the new approach when considering if it would be a good fit for my own child.

If I understand well, current criteria now favor: having the disposable income to buy a rental property in an admissions-favorable school zone; having the means to groom a flawless, empty GPA; having the ability to write a persuasive sob story. Ostensibly, this was done to make it more difficult for wealthy, over-privileged, politically-connected people to gain a leg up on the admissions process.

I don't have a sense for the exact degree to which prep has distorted the picture of who is truly advanced/gifted. I am pretty confident, though, that the perceptions of impact have been heavily skewed by racial bias.

Thankfully, you do not understand well.

Let's just shut down TJ at this point. It's too divisive. Not worth the resources.

We should be so lucky, but the FCPS gods have something else in mind. TJ will just continue to chew up far more time and attention than it warrants, especially with the convoluted new admissions process.

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Anonymous wrote:Well it was not meeting it prior to this year either given how many kids were prepping for the test. If it was to really serve the tippy top kids that “need” TJ those kids would not need to prep. The whole factory business of prep schools made a mockery of that supposed goal TJ was trying to serve. So unless they can figure out a way around the preppers and the years long planning people did to strategize what activities to do to get in….I am happier with the new system.

Just shut the f up. It was the number 1 high school in the U.S. Clearly, the admissions process was getting the best and brightest. Stop all the Asian hate.

It was ranked number 1 by several publications because of the students' performance on standardized exams. Given that the admissions process overselected for test-taking ability and incentivized expensive and time-consuming courses, it shouldn't be surprising that the school ranked highly in those metrics.

Also, who said anything about Asians? Is the Asian identity so wrapped up in TJ that you can't separate the two?

You people say "preppers" to mean Asians. And it is ranked number 1 based on 6 criteria. No one cares about performance deciding a competitive process until its dominated by Asians. You are such a racist.

I'm not Pp you are arguing with but i am the one who said that the "preppers" gutted any sense of TJ's "true purpose" as being a school for the super gifted kids who "really need it". I stand by that. I frankly don't care what race they are - I don't like the notion of incentivizing a system that requires the kids to go to outside classes to prep for an entrance test and to plan years ahead with private extracurriculers to put on their application. If there were a way to more naturally select teh kids who "really need it" I'd support that. Since there's not, I support dialing down the crazy amp-up to TJ applications and think the % per school and revisions to the process seem a decent way to try to get there. I don't care at all about increasing URM shares at TJ (nice but not my personal priority); I'm just saying that I prefer the new approach when considering if it would be a good fit for my own child.

If I understand well, current criteria now favor: having the disposable income to buy a rental property in an admissions-favorable school zone; having the means to groom a flawless, empty GPA; having the ability to write a persuasive sob story. Ostensibly, this was done to make it more difficult for wealthy, over-privileged, politically-connected people to gain a leg up on the admissions process.

I don't have a sense for the exact degree to which prep has distorted the picture of who is truly advanced/gifted. I am pretty confident, though, that the perceptions of impact have been heavily skewed by racial bias.

Thankfully, you do not understand well.

Let's just shut down TJ at this point. It's too divisive. Not worth the resources.

OK Bill deblasio.
Let's keep those who are capable from fully excelling because it's unfair to those who can't.

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Anonymous wrote:Well it was not meeting it prior to this year either given how many kids were prepping for the test. If it was to really serve the tippy top kids that “need” TJ those kids would not need to prep. The whole factory business of prep schools made a mockery of that supposed goal TJ was trying to serve. So unless they can figure out a way around the preppers and the years long planning people did to strategize what activities to do to get in….I am happier with the new system.

Just shut the f up. It was the number 1 high school in the U.S. Clearly, the admissions process was getting the best and brightest. Stop all the Asian hate.

It was ranked number 1 by several publications because of the students' performance on standardized exams. Given that the admissions process overselected for test-taking ability and incentivized expensive and time-consuming courses, it shouldn't be surprising that the school ranked highly in those metrics.

Also, who said anything about Asians? Is the Asian identity so wrapped up in TJ that you can't separate the two?

You people say "preppers" to mean Asians. And it is ranked number 1 based on 6 criteria. No one cares about performance deciding a competitive process until its dominated by Asians. You are such a racist.

I'm not Pp you are arguing with but i am the one who said that the "preppers" gutted any sense of TJ's "true purpose" as being a school for the super gifted kids who "really need it". I stand by that. I frankly don't care what race they are - I don't like the notion of incentivizing a system that requires the kids to go to outside classes to prep for an entrance test and to plan years ahead with private extracurriculers to put on their application. If there were a way to more naturally select teh kids who "really need it" I'd support that. Since there's not, I support dialing down the crazy amp-up to TJ applications and think the % per school and revisions to the process seem a decent way to try to get there. I don't care at all about increasing URM shares at TJ (nice but not my personal priority); I'm just saying that I prefer the new approach when considering if it would be a good fit for my own child.

If I understand well, current criteria now favor: having the disposable income to buy a rental property in an admissions-favorable school zone; having the means to groom a flawless, empty GPA; having the ability to write a persuasive sob story. Ostensibly, this was done to make it more difficult for wealthy, over-privileged, politically-connected people to gain a leg up on the admissions process.

I don't have a sense for the exact degree to which prep has distorted the picture of who is truly advanced/gifted. I am pretty confident, though, that the perceptions of impact have been heavily skewed by racial bias.

Thankfully, you do not understand well.

Let's just shut down TJ at this point. It's too divisive. Not worth the resources.

OK Bill deblasio.
Let's keep those who are capable from fully excelling because it's unfair to those who can't.

I can't imagine the stupidity of anyone who'd suggest that, even after the random TJ admissions changes, FCPS has somehow magically ended up with a system where those are capable of fully excelling at a single school (TJ), and no one else falls in that category.

The problem with the changes made by FCPS is that they'll soak up even more resources. OP isn't wrong to suggest that either it should be merit-based (as before), a lottery (as proposed), or shut down. FCPS does fewer and fewer things very well, and trying to create the equivalent of a selective college's admissions department to handle admissions at a single high school is far, far beyond FCPS's capabilities to get right.

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Anonymous wrote:Well it was not meeting it prior to this year either given how many kids were prepping for the test. If it was to really serve the tippy top kids that “need” TJ those kids would not need to prep. The whole factory business of prep schools made a mockery of that supposed goal TJ was trying to serve. So unless they can figure out a way around the preppers and the years long planning people did to strategize what activities to do to get in….I am happier with the new system.

Just shut the f up. It was the number 1 high school in the U.S. Clearly, the admissions process was getting the best and brightest. Stop all the Asian hate.

It was ranked number 1 by several publications because of the students' performance on standardized exams. Given that the admissions process overselected for test-taking ability and incentivized expensive and time-consuming courses, it shouldn't be surprising that the school ranked highly in those metrics.

Also, who said anything about Asians? Is the Asian identity so wrapped up in TJ that you can't separate the two?

You people say "preppers" to mean Asians. And it is ranked number 1 based on 6 criteria. No one cares about performance deciding a competitive process until its dominated by Asians. You are such a racist.

I'm not Pp you are arguing with but i am the one who said that the "preppers" gutted any sense of TJ's "true purpose" as being a school for the super gifted kids who "really need it". I stand by that. I frankly don't care what race they are - I don't like the notion of incentivizing a system that requires the kids to go to outside classes to prep for an entrance test and to plan years ahead with private extracurriculers to put on their application. If there were a way to more naturally select teh kids who "really need it" I'd support that. Since there's not, I support dialing down the crazy amp-up to TJ applications and think the % per school and revisions to the process seem a decent way to try to get there. I don't care at all about increasing URM shares at TJ (nice but not my personal priority); I'm just saying that I prefer the new approach when considering if it would be a good fit for my own child.

If I understand well, current criteria now favor: having the disposable income to buy a rental property in an admissions-favorable school zone; having the means to groom a flawless, empty GPA; having the ability to write a persuasive sob story. Ostensibly, this was done to make it more difficult for wealthy, over-privileged, politically-connected people to gain a leg up on the admissions process.

I don't have a sense for the exact degree to which prep has distorted the picture of who is truly advanced/gifted. I am pretty confident, though, that the perceptions of impact have been heavily skewed by racial bias.

Thankfully, you do not understand well.

Let's just shut down TJ at this point. It's too divisive. Not worth the resources.

OK Bill deblasio.
Let's keep those who are capable from fully excelling because it's unfair to those who can't.

I can't imagine the stupidity of anyone who'd suggest that, even after the random TJ admissions changes, FCPS has somehow magically ended up with a system where those are capable of fully excelling at a single school (TJ), and no one else falls in that category.

The problem with the changes made by FCPS is that they'll soak up even more resources. OP isn't wrong to suggest that either it should be merit-based (as before), a lottery (as proposed), or shut down. FCPS does fewer and fewer things very well, and trying to create the equivalent of a selective college's admissions department to handle admissions at a single high school is far, far beyond FCPS's capabilities to get right.

Huh..that's the universal set of options. change, keep it as before or shut it down. there isn't a fourth option. so you are always right. man/woman, you are such a genius.

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Anonymous wrote:Well it was not meeting it prior to this year either given how many kids were prepping for the test. If it was to really serve the tippy top kids that “need” TJ those kids would not need to prep. The whole factory business of prep schools made a mockery of that supposed goal TJ was trying to serve. So unless they can figure out a way around the preppers and the years long planning people did to strategize what activities to do to get in….I am happier with the new system.

Just shut the f up. It was the number 1 high school in the U.S. Clearly, the admissions process was getting the best and brightest. Stop all the Asian hate.

It was ranked number 1 by several publications because of the students' performance on standardized exams. Given that the admissions process overselected for test-taking ability and incentivized expensive and time-consuming courses, it shouldn't be surprising that the school ranked highly in those metrics.

Also, who said anything about Asians? Is the Asian identity so wrapped up in TJ that you can't separate the two?

You people say "preppers" to mean Asians. And it is ranked number 1 based on 6 criteria. No one cares about performance deciding a competitive process until its dominated by Asians. You are such a racist.

I'm not Pp you are arguing with but i am the one who said that the "preppers" gutted any sense of TJ's "true purpose" as being a school for the super gifted kids who "really need it". I stand by that. I frankly don't care what race they are - I don't like the notion of incentivizing a system that requires the kids to go to outside classes to prep for an entrance test and to plan years ahead with private extracurriculers to put on their application. If there were a way to more naturally select teh kids who "really need it" I'd support that. Since there's not, I support dialing down the crazy amp-up to TJ applications and think the % per school and revisions to the process seem a decent way to try to get there. I don't care at all about increasing URM shares at TJ (nice but not my personal priority); I'm just saying that I prefer the new approach when considering if it would be a good fit for my own child.

If I understand well, current criteria now favor: having the disposable income to buy a rental property in an admissions-favorable school zone; having the means to groom a flawless, empty GPA; having the ability to write a persuasive sob story. Ostensibly, this was done to make it more difficult for wealthy, over-privileged, politically-connected people to gain a leg up on the admissions process.

I don't have a sense for the exact degree to which prep has distorted the picture of who is truly advanced/gifted. I am pretty confident, though, that the perceptions of impact have been heavily skewed by racial bias.

Thankfully, you do not understand well.

Let's just shut down TJ at this point. It's too divisive. Not worth the resources.

OK Bill deblasio.
Let's keep those who are capable from fully excelling because it's unfair to those who can't.

I can't imagine the stupidity of anyone who'd suggest that, even after the random TJ admissions changes, FCPS has somehow magically ended up with a system where those are capable of fully excelling at a single school (TJ), and no one else falls in that category.

The problem with the changes made by FCPS is that they'll soak up even more resources. OP isn't wrong to suggest that either it should be merit-based (as before), a lottery (as proposed), or shut down. FCPS does fewer and fewer things very well, and trying to create the equivalent of a selective college's admissions department to handle admissions at a single high school is far, far beyond FCPS's capabilities to get right.

Huh..that's the universal set of options. change, keep it as before or shut it down. there isn't a fourth option. so you are always right. man/woman, you are such a genius.

That’s not much of a rebuttal, which suggests you care about little other than the feel-good tokenism embraced by our current, hapless School Board. Shocking.

[Anonymous]

This is an important piece. What a shame the cretins in charge of FCPS have never given the matter of TJ admissions a sliver of the attention this author devoted to the topic.

https://www.inquiremore.com/p/culture-not-racism-explains-asian

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is an important piece. What a shame the cretins in charge of FCPS have never given the matter of TJ admissions a sliver of the attention this author devoted to the topic.

https://www.inquiremore.com/p/culture-not-racism-explains-asian

It is about what's in it for me NOW, not about the truth or long term. So stop with your logic.