TJ admission should be a pure lottery for all who meet application requirements.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If students are responsible for younger siblings, working, and don't have parental support, how will they handle the workload at TJ?

Not saying they shouldn't be given a shot but it doesn't seem like an environment in which they would be able to keep up.

That's their business, not yours. You are looking for a reason not to admit them or for them not to apply. Stop.

Besides, in many of those instances, "care" involves literally just being at home so that the party in question isn't home alone. That doesn't preclude one from doing homework. It does, however, preclude being out at an extracurricular activity.

First, I said in my post that I wasn't saying they shouldn't be given a shot
Second, if the entire process is being re-arranged to accommodate these students and then they fail because the problems they face are still there we will again hear calls for more accommodation. As a taxpayer, its actually my business since those pushing for this made it so. You can't reconfigure everything based on these factors and then say its no one's business. They've made it our business.

Taxpayers have a vested interest in these kids succeeding. Would you rather later pay for their housing food and medical care or for them to create jobs for your grandchildren, pay your pension or create your elder care equipment?

Agreed. Support school choice. Vote Republican.

Not if I were on fire and the GOP had the only hose.

+1000. No way would I ever vote for the traitor party of Trump

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. One time I taught a truly special kid. Perfect recall. The only thing she got wrong all year was repeating a mistake I had made and later corrected. Kids like that really need TJ.

Lame.

You had one kid like that one time. TJ isn’t there for one kid.

TJ lottery all the way!

You misunderstood. If each high school got two slots to nominate (which I believe is the plan) , it ensures that the profoundly gifted kids get through. They really need it.

I think those “profoundly gifted” spots will be passed out to someone who’s Mommy or Daddy is on the middle school PTA.
Not the kid who’s actually profoundly gifted.
I have a kid who is and is thriving at TJ. All kids needed time to grow up while taking classes that challenged each kid. Just because my kid has a very high IQ, doesn’t mean they don’t need to learn the life skills of struggling in a class on their level: how to study, not procrastinating, ect.
However, my kid isn’t a social butterfly and I didn’t volunteer for things that would have gotten me in front of the principal.
I’m so glad kid got in under the old system.
No we aren’t Asian.

[Anonymous]

Instead of a lottery why not have each middle school
Select their best and brightest and send them? Then students are competing with peers from their own school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Instead of a lottery why not have each middle school
Select their best and brightest and send them? Then students are competing with peers from their own school.

This is what is currently happening under the new process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of a lottery why not have each middle school
Select their best and brightest and send them? Then students are competing with peers from their own school.

This is what is currently happening under the new process.

Yup, this. the new process allocates seats to each school and the kids who do not get those seats are selected through the old application process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nope. One time I taught a truly special kid. Perfect recall. The only thing she got wrong all year was repeating a mistake I had made and later corrected. Kids like that really need TJ.

Lame.

You had one kid like that one time. TJ isn’t there for one kid.

TJ lottery all the way!

You misunderstood. If each high school got two slots to nominate (which I believe is the plan) , it ensures that the profoundly gifted kids get through. They really need it.

I think those “profoundly gifted” spots will be passed out to someone who’s Mommy or Daddy is on the middle school PTA.
Not the kid who’s actually profoundly gifted.
I have a kid who is and is thriving at TJ. All kids needed time to grow up while taking classes that challenged each kid. Just because my kid has a very high IQ, doesn’t mean they don’t need to learn the life skills of struggling in a class on their level: how to study, not procrastinating, ect.
However, my kid isn’t a social butterfly and I didn’t volunteer for things that would have gotten me in front of the principal.
I’m so glad kid got in under the old system.
No we aren’t Asian.

+1. FCPS should watch who gets nominated for these spots closely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nope. One time I taught a truly special kid. Perfect recall. The only thing she got wrong all year was repeating a mistake I had made and later corrected. Kids like that really need TJ.

Lame.

You had one kid like that one time. TJ isn’t there for one kid.

TJ lottery all the way!

You misunderstood. If each high school got two slots to nominate (which I believe is the plan) , it ensures that the profoundly gifted kids get through. They really need it.

I think those “profoundly gifted” spots will be passed out to someone who’s Mommy or Daddy is on the middle school PTA.
Not the kid who’s actually profoundly gifted.
I have a kid who is and is thriving at TJ. All kids needed time to grow up while taking classes that challenged each kid. Just because my kid has a very high IQ, doesn’t mean they don’t need to learn the life skills of struggling in a class on their level: how to study, not procrastinating, ect.
However, my kid isn’t a social butterfly and I didn’t volunteer for things that would have gotten me in front of the principal.
I’m so glad kid got in under the old system.
No we aren’t Asian.

The middle school has zero say in who is selected by the admissions office - indeed, there aren't even teacher recommendations as part of the new process, which I think is a bit of a mistake.

It is all about how the admissions office evaluates the group of students coming from each middle school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nope. One time I taught a truly special kid. Perfect recall. The only thing she got wrong all year was repeating a mistake I had made and later corrected. Kids like that really need TJ.

Lame.

You had one kid like that one time. TJ isn’t there for one kid.

TJ lottery all the way!

You misunderstood. If each high school got two slots to nominate (which I believe is the plan) , it ensures that the profoundly gifted kids get through. They really need it.

I think those “profoundly gifted” spots will be passed out to someone who’s Mommy or Daddy is on the middle school PTA.
Not the kid who’s actually profoundly gifted.
I have a kid who is and is thriving at TJ. All kids needed time to grow up while taking classes that challenged each kid. Just because my kid has a very high IQ, doesn’t mean they don’t need to learn the life skills of struggling in a class on their level: how to study, not procrastinating, ect.
However, my kid isn’t a social butterfly and I didn’t volunteer for things that would have gotten me in front of the principal.
I’m so glad kid got in under the old system.
No we aren’t Asian.

+1. FCPS should watch who gets nominated for these spots closely.

No one gets nominated for anything by the school. The evaluations take place within the Admissions Office.

There also isn't any way to determine who is and is not a student occupying an allocated seat. Nearly all of the schools that TJ draws from have allocated seat totals that are smaller than the reporting threshold. So for example, if Stone Middle School has only 6 seats allocated to them, and they have six or fewer students, that number will be listed as "TS" - too small to report. It'll still be "TS" if the number is 9. And if it's, say, 13, because they got some unallocated seats as well, there's no way to know which of those 13 kids received an allocated seat and which ones didn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of a lottery why not have each middle school
Select their best and brightest and send them? Then students are competing with peers from their own school.

This is what is currently happening under the new process.

Yup, this. the new process allocates seats to each school and the kids who do not get those seats are selected through the old application process.

Not true. There is no test. That was the first hurdle of the old process. It is gone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If students are responsible for younger siblings, working, and don't have parental support, how will they handle the workload at TJ?

Not saying they shouldn't be given a shot but it doesn't seem like an environment in which they would be able to keep up.

That's their business, not yours. You are looking for a reason not to admit them or for them not to apply. Stop.

Besides, in many of those instances, "care" involves literally just being at home so that the party in question isn't home alone. That doesn't preclude one from doing homework. It does, however, preclude being out at an extracurricular activity.

First, I said in my post that I wasn't saying they shouldn't be given a shot
Second, if the entire process is being re-arranged to accommodate these students and then they fail because the problems they face are still there we will again hear calls for more accommodation. As a taxpayer, its actually my business since those pushing for this made it so. You can't reconfigure everything based on these factors and then say its no one's business. They've made it our business.

Taxpayers have a vested interest in these kids succeeding. Would you rather later pay for their housing food and medical care or for them to create jobs for your grandchildren, pay your pension or create your elder care equipment?

Agreed. Support school choice. Vote Republican.

Not if I were on fire and the GOP had the only hose.

+1000. No way would I ever vote for the traitor party of Trump

Spoken like the true suburban wokie SJW whose kids probably go to Langley and doesn't have to worry about the quality of schools for THEIR kids while trying to keep us from getting better schools for OUR kids. The divide in our party between the haves and have nots on this issue is getting more clear by the day. Take Detroit, for example: https://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/democratic-minority-voters-overwhelmingly-favor-school-choice

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure this is a troll post

How did you get to such conclusion? Because if doesn’t suit you?

Go back to WeChat

They can go back further than that.

There are more than plenty racists here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of a lottery why not have each middle school
Select their best and brightest and send them? Then students are competing with peers from their own school.

This is what is currently happening under the new process.

My understanding is that each middle school identifies TJ-eligible students, but does not select them for TJ.

[Anonymous]

I believe that TJ should either have continued with the old system, which was in place for years and emphasized objective assessments, or gone to a pure lottery among students meeting threshold requirements.

The new system is highly offensive - it commits ever more FCPS resources to ever more subjective assessments of applicants to a single school and requires heavy vetting by lawyers and FCPS officials. As a result, it diverts more Gatehouse resources and School Board attention away from other schools and towards TJ.

It is past time for TJHSST to be shut down and for TJ to return to use as a community school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I believe that TJ should either have continued with the old system, which was in place for years and emphasized objective assessments, or gone to a pure lottery among students meeting threshold requirements.

The new system is highly offensive - it commits ever more FCPS resources to ever more subjective assessments of applicants to a single school and requires heavy vetting by lawyers and FCPS officials. As a result, it diverts more Gatehouse resources and School Board attention away from other schools and towards TJ.

It is past time for TJHSST to be shut down and for TJ to return to use as a community school.

The old system was not objective. Most of the scoring was based on the interpretation of the SIS and recommendations once passed the first round (not a very high bar).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of a lottery why not have each middle school
Select their best and brightest and send them? Then students are competing with peers from their own school.

This is what is currently happening under the new process.

My understanding is that each middle school identifies TJ-eligible students, but does not select them for TJ.

This is somewhat true. The students submit an application and the middle school confirms that they are eligible via their GPA and math level. But they don't sort the students at all.