FCPS comprehensive boundary review

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Chantilly is higher rated than westfield because it has much lower farms. Developers want to sell houses by advertising the better school.

So, the School Board is zoning developer's new construction that is much closer to Westfield than Chantilly, while discussing moving long time Chantilly neighborhoods that are much farther away? Hypocrites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:2022 data:

https://www.fcps.edu/news/fcps-high-schools-ranked-among-best-virginia-and-nation-us-news-and-world-report

There is a reason that parents with students at the top of this list don’t want their children to be redistricted to schools at the bottom of the list. It has nothing to do with racism. Why would any parent welcome a boundary adjustment from one of the top high schools in the county/country to one of high schools on the bottom of this list?

2023

https://www.fcps.edu/news/six-fcps-high-schools-rank-among-virginias-best-us-news-world-report

The only FCPS high schools listed are the schools in the top 10 in VA:

Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology, #1
McLean High School, #4
Langley High School, #5
Oakton High School, #6
Marshall High School, #9
W.T. Woodson High School, #10

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Chantilly is higher rated than westfield because it has much lower farms. Developers want to sell houses by advertising the better school.

So, the School Board is zoning developer's new construction that is much closer to Westfield than Chantilly, while discussing moving long time Chantilly neighborhoods that are much farther away? Hypocrites.

DP. Not sure what you’re talking about. The current boundaries are what they are. Developers of new developments are not negotiating school assignments with FCPS on a one-off basis any longer. They used to try and do that, and sometimes succeeded, which is how some of those pockets of Herndon and Reston ended up at Langley. But FCPS got out of that business years ago. Other developers trying subsequently to get FCPS to reassign new developments off Route 7 zoned to Herndon and Marshall to Langley, for example, got rebuffed.

If a new development happens to be assigned to Chantilly rather than Westfield, there’s a greater likelihood the developer and any real estate agents they are working with will highlight that. FCPS doesn’t control their marketing materials.

Some have contended that, if a new development cut a deal in the past, FCPS shouldn’t revisit it because the home buyers purchased thinking they were buying for particular schools. That’s a different issue that ties into the broader discussion of whether FCPS should ever change boundaries and, if so, what the triggers should be.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Chantilly is higher rated than westfield because it has much lower farms. Developers want to sell houses by advertising the better school.

So, the School Board is zoning developer's new construction that is much closer to Westfield than Chantilly, while discussing moving long time Chantilly neighborhoods that are much farther away? Hypocrites.

Every politician (board of supervisors or school board) who prioritizes developers over current residents should be thrown in jail, or at the very least run out of town. Such a betrayal of their constituents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Chantilly is higher rated than westfield because it has much lower farms. Developers want to sell houses by advertising the better school.

So, the School Board is zoning developer's new construction that is much closer to Westfield than Chantilly, while discussing moving long time Chantilly neighborhoods that are much farther away? Hypocrites.

Every politician (board of supervisors or school board) who prioritizes developers over current residents should be thrown in jail, or at the very least run out of town. Such a betrayal of their constituents.

Do you have any actual examples of this happening?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s be honest. Langley HS will get special exemptions. McLean will take the hits for Langley.

The Langley community is assertive. The McLean community is not. As best I can tell, the reason is that the people at McLean who’d otherwise be vocal are assigned to areas that will remain at McLean (Chesterbrook, Franklin Sherman, Haycock, and Kent Gardens), and the people in the attendance islands don’t care as much whether they get moved to Langley (Spring Hill) or Falls Church (Timber Lane). If they propose to move some of the kids at the other feeders (Lemon Road and Westgate) to Marshall, that may generate more pushback later, but it seems like the attendance islands will be a higher priority than the split feeders.

None of that involves McLean “taking a hit” for Langley. If the Tysons attendance island at McLean (Spring Hill) moved to Langley, it wouldn’t necessarily mean any changes for Langley now, or for years to come, but it could have longer-term implications depending on how much of the planned development materializes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Chantilly is higher rated than westfield because it has much lower farms. Developers want to sell houses by advertising the better school.

So, the School Board is zoning developer's new construction that is much closer to Westfield than Chantilly, while discussing moving long time Chantilly neighborhoods that are much farther away? Hypocrites.

Every politician (board of supervisors or school board) who prioritizes developers over current residents should be thrown in jail, or at the very least run out of town. Such a betrayal of their constituents.

I guess the argument is that with new MFH development the county can get a lot of new residents who won’t have kids but will pay taxes to support the schools. Not sure if it really works out this way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Chantilly is higher rated than westfield because it has much lower farms. Developers want to sell houses by advertising the better school.

So, the School Board is zoning developer's new construction that is much closer to Westfield than Chantilly, while discussing moving long time Chantilly neighborhoods that are much farther away? Hypocrites.

Every politician (board of supervisors or school board) who prioritizes developers over current residents should be thrown in jail, or at the very least run out of town. Such a betrayal of their constituents.

Do you have any actual examples of this happening?

Yeah, read the other post right above mine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:2022 data:

https://www.fcps.edu/news/fcps-high-schools-ranked-among-best-virginia-and-nation-us-news-and-world-report

There is a reason that parents with students at the top of this list don’t want their children to be redistricted to schools at the bottom of the list. It has nothing to do with racism. Why would any parent welcome a boundary adjustment from one of the top high schools in the county/country to one of high schools on the bottom of this list?

The literal measuring stick used by these lists is based on race and language. They conclude that having a few hundred more English Language Learners than a neighboring school will knock off several thousand places in rank because ELL kids (unsurprisingly) fail their SOL tests at a high rate.
A reasonable analyst would question the validity of ranking public schools but statistics and biases don't make money in advertising.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:2022 data:

https://www.fcps.edu/news/fcps-high-schools-ranked-among-best-virginia-and-nation-us-news-and-world-report

There is a reason that parents with students at the top of this list don’t want their children to be redistricted to schools at the bottom of the list. It has nothing to do with racism. Why would any parent welcome a boundary adjustment from one of the top high schools in the county/country to one of high schools on the bottom of this list?

Lower-ranked school has space, was more recently renovated, may offer more opportunities for kids to make teams or get certain positions in plays or in bands, may be perceived as friendlier, etc. Reactions could also depend on whether families know each other from existing split feeders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who is getting "no data" on the dashboard for Herndon enrollment?

I tested lots of schools and got data.

Also, please recall, this is "potential," and some of it is not approved yet.

West Springfields data has been doing that.

Its data comes and goes.

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Anonymous wrote:Again, school age population in decline, test scores and school ratings down across the board. The whole boundary study is designed to get parents fighting with one another, and it is working, to keep eyes of the horrendous job the administration and school board in managing FCPS.

Wake up people. There is no need for this study. Make Reid and the SB focus on and fix the real problems.

Agreed, this fixes no problems but creates many.

They aren’t even sticking to their supposed transparency and open dialogue principles with the half hand-picked BRAC making decisions in secret.

it’s not secret, they just are not updating it as fast as you think they should.

My definition of secret is not allowing the public to attend the meetings, nor recording them. Them giving us the agenda and printouts is nowhere close to adequate disclosure.

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I am on the BRAC. Dr. Reid explained that we are an adivsory committee to the superintendent and therefore our meetings are not open to the public. If we were an advisory committee to the board, then they would be open to the public. The boundary review website is being updated with high level meeting minutes. We were told the website would be updated NLT close of business on the next business day following a meeting. So meetings that are held on Fridays, the website would be updated NLT Monday evening. Meetings held Monday - Thursday would be updated the following day. So far we've only had two meetings and minutes from those meetings were updated the next business day.

I don't think this is correct.

She is a public employee.

Miyares needs to get involved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who is getting "no data" on the dashboard for Herndon enrollment?

I tested lots of schools and got data.

Also, please recall, this is "potential," and some of it is not approved yet.

West Springfields data has been doing that.

Its data comes and goes.

I don’t think there’s much new development that is the subject of housing applications in the WSHS district. Once a new property gets finished, it should roll off that dashboard.

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Anonymous wrote:Again, school age population in decline, test scores and school ratings down across the board. The whole boundary study is designed to get parents fighting with one another, and it is working, to keep eyes of the horrendous job the administration and school board in managing FCPS.

Wake up people. There is no need for this study. Make Reid and the SB focus on and fix the real problems.

Agreed, this fixes no problems but creates many.

They aren’t even sticking to their supposed transparency and open dialogue principles with the half hand-picked BRAC making decisions in secret.

it’s not secret, they just are not updating it as fast as you think they should.

My definition of secret is not allowing the public to attend the meetings, nor recording them. Them giving us the agenda and printouts is nowhere close to adequate disclosure.

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I am on the BRAC. Dr. Reid explained that we are an adivsory committee to the superintendent and therefore our meetings are not open to the public. If we were an advisory committee to the board, then they would be open to the public. The boundary review website is being updated with high level meeting minutes. We were told the website would be updated NLT close of business on the next business day following a meeting. So meetings that are held on Fridays, the website would be updated NLT Monday evening. Meetings held Monday - Thursday would be updated the following day. So far we've only had two meetings and minutes from those meetings were updated the next business day.

I thought the school board created the BRAC. Pretty certain that they voted to create it in a recorded sb meeting.

You are correct.
Reid is violating the law.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:2022 data:

https://www.fcps.edu/news/fcps-high-schools-ranked-among-best-virginia-and-nation-us-news-and-world-report

There is a reason that parents with students at the top of this list don’t want their children to be redistricted to schools at the bottom of the list. It has nothing to do with racism. Why would any parent welcome a boundary adjustment from one of the top high schools in the county/country to one of high schools on the bottom of this list?

The literal measuring stick used by these lists is based on race and language. They conclude that having a few hundred more English Language Learners than a neighboring school will knock off several thousand places in rank because ELL kids (unsurprisingly) fail their SOL tests at a high rate.
A reasonable analyst would question the validity of ranking public schools but statistics and biases don't make money in advertising.

There is one category that measures how minorities do compared to state averages. That is meant to capture whether the schools are doing a good job educating those kids. There are no other literal measures of race and there is no literal measure of language anywhere in the USNews rankings.