Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Anonymous wrote:I was surprised they had any ES level changes.

You might have thought they'd have learned from the county-wide study and settled on a low drama approach for drawing a new high school's boundaries, with some modest middle school changes.

Instead, they doubled down on the chaos at every level.

A cynic would say it's because Reid just wants people to beg for stable boundaries and a magnet instead of a new neighborhood high school.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are we arguing about Lee's Corner's vicinity to Chantilly? It's very close.

I don't think anyone is arguing about that. More saying it doesn't matter.

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Anonymous wrote:They should never have bought Skyview. The neighborhood closest to it doesn’t want to go there. They should enable everyone alone and just make it opt in. All these changes are tearing us apart. Great job, Reid!

FWIW, "the neighborhood closest to it" is Floris, and we 100% want to go there. Our community has been fighting to be included in the Skyview boundary since the school was purchased. 3 of the 4 original maps left parts of Floris out of Skyview, despite the fact that the schools its in the middle of our boundary. Keeping all of Floris — minus the small pockets they are proposing to carve out and send to Fox Mill for some unknown reason — in Skyview is one of the few reasonable things that these maps do, but it took a lot of work to get here.

They didn't keep all of Floris together, the new carve outs equate to nearly 25% of the school. They managed to mess this up again for no reason.

Totally agree. What I meant was that all of the Floris boundary, as they’ve defined it, goes to Skyview rather than split-feeding multiple high schools as it does now and did in the initial maps. I don’t think they should carve out portions of the current Floris boundary and should just leave it the same.

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Anonymous wrote:I was surprised they had any ES level changes.

And none of them logical as far as i can tell!

Navy to Chantilly makes sense. Que the meltdown....

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Resell Skyview!

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they should send the whiny crossfield people to fill up westfield.

Yes! Send RIOs to Westfield!

Maybe we should all put the comment on the maps

I do think Lees Corner families should post about Crossfield - whether it's send Crossfield to Skyview or send Crossfield to backfill South Lakes - as much as possible.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they should send the whiny crossfield people to fill up westfield.

Yes! Send RIOs to Westfield!

RIO isn't the one who has been whining here.

You don't get to blow things up and then walk away acting innocent. The reason Lees Corner is even involved is because you people decided it was ok to cause chaos everywhere around you as long as you get the exact outcome you want. GTFO.

Well you got what you wanted because these maps tear up Crossfield, too.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they should send the whiny crossfield people to fill up westfield.

Yes! Send RIOs to Westfield!

RIO isn't the one who has been whining here.

You don't get to blow things up and then walk away acting innocent. The reason Lees Corner is even involved is because you people decided it was ok to cause chaos everywhere around you as long as you get the exact outcome you want. GTFO.

Well you got what you wanted because these maps tear up Crossfield, too.

That one street from Crossfield that goes to Chantilly was recommended to move to Lees Corner during the comprehensive review. Nearly every person who lived on that street showed up at the public hearing and asked to be left at Crossfield. They got their way only to have another consultant sweep in a few months later to make the exact same recommendation in all of their scenarios.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they should send the whiny crossfield people to fill up westfield.

Yes! Send RIOs to Westfield!

Maybe we should all put the comment on the maps

I do think Lees Corner families should post about Crossfield - whether it's send Crossfield to Skyview or send Crossfield to backfill South Lakes - as much as possible.

No one likes crossfield. They are the self absorbed and entitled RIO people.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they should send the whiny crossfield people to fill up westfield.

Yes! Send RIOs to Westfield!

Maybe we should all put the comment on the maps

I do think Lees Corner families should post about Crossfield - whether it's send Crossfield to Skyview or send Crossfield to backfill South Lakes - as much as possible.

No one likes crossfield. They are the self absorbed and entitled RIO people.

Not defending Crossfield here, but this process has shown a LOT of people are self absorbed and entitled. Such a turnoff thinking my kids might have to go to school with some of these families at some point depending on how things play out.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they should send the whiny crossfield people to fill up westfield.

Yes! Send RIOs to Westfield!

Maybe we should all put the comment on the maps

I do think Lees Corner families should post about Crossfield - whether it's send Crossfield to Skyview or send Crossfield to backfill South Lakes - as much as possible.

No one likes crossfield. They are the self absorbed and entitled RIO people.

I thought that was Navy moms?

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they should send the whiny crossfield people to fill up westfield.

Yes! Send RIOs to Westfield!

RIO isn't the one who has been whining here.

You don't get to blow things up and then walk away acting innocent. The reason Lees Corner is even involved is because you people decided it was ok to cause chaos everywhere around you as long as you get the exact outcome you want. GTFO.

I'm not RIO. RIO has taken their mantle up elsewhere, other places on the internet and in-person. The anti-Rio Crossfield mom who constantly complains about intimidation is also whiny and from Crossfield. Neither side shows paints Crossfield in a positive light. That's what I was trying to point out; I could have made that clearer.

I have sympathy for Lees Corner. Taking walkers and putting them on a bus is a dramatic change. After-school activities become much harder for some families.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they should send the whiny crossfield people to fill up westfield.

Yes! Send RIOs to Westfield!

The Lees Corner proposals actually carve out pieces of Oak Hill, Crossfield, and Navy that they send to Lees Corner first. Then that is sent to Westfield, so families from those schools are impacted too.

No Navy family is being sent to Westfield.

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Anonymous wrote:Scenario 2 is the only feasible choice.

Whether you like the RIO people or not, the elected officials cannot just ignore their constituents.

The RIO people don't want to move.
Lees Corner people don't want to move.
Many Fox Mill people do want to move.

Scenario B satisfies all these conditions and is also the least disruptive option.

RIO Karen has spoken!

So there is absolutely no one objecting to Scenario B?

Why are the opinions of the RIO people, the Lees Corner people and the Fox Mill people more important than the opinions of People Who Don't Want Option B?

Part of the issue is way too many moving parts. For example: there is a need to fill Westfield. It is clear that Skyview will have an impact on this no matter which option is selected. So, there should be separate options on how to adjust from Chantilly or Centreville. Instead, we have musical chairs with elementary and middle schools included that have little to do with this need. The one thing that should be apparent is that it is ridiculous to move Lee's Corner to Westfield. Whether Crossfield goes to Skyview or stays at Oakton should have nothing to do with this decision.

Disagree. There are lots of suggested moves that make a lot less sense than this one. The logic behind moving lees corner is clear--kids have to be moved into Westfield from somewhere and Lees Corner is closer to Westfield than many other areas. That's the logic and it makes sense. Whether you like it or not is a different question.

I asked you this before and you didn't answer. Which western CVHS neighborhoods are you talking about? This is scenario 1 vs 2 (3 is the same as 2 for this area.) The striped area has so few homes. That's the Bull Run Regional park area. The closest populated area is Uniontown which would be moved from Centreville HS (8 mins away) to Westfield (14 minutes away.) Compare to Lees Corner ES, which is heavily populated, moving from being walkable/bikeable, less than 1 miles away from Chantilly to 5 miles away in heavy traffic to Westfield. If this is your sticking point, your fight to stay at CVHS should have nothing to do with Lees Corner. Lees Corner should be Chantilly HS or Skyview HS, the end.
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Scenario 2 & 3:

I don't live in the area, but anyone who can use google maps can tell you are being disingenous.

I picked a random street in the "Uniontown" neighborhood-to arrive by 8 am to Westfield on a weekday, its 7.1 miles distance and estimated 14-26 minutes, in heavy traffic with commuters going up 28 north.
From "Lees Corner ES"-which is in the middle of the Lees Corner boundary, its 4.5 miles and 9-20 minutes *against* morning traffic down 50.

Of course it makes more sense to move Lees Corner rather than that area.

Lees corner is 5 minutes from Chantilly. And, with loss of Oak Hill, Chantilly won't be overcrowded...unlike Centreville.

So you agree that Lees Corner is closer to Westfield than that area of Centreville?

Well, I picked out a "random street" in Lee's Corner neighborhood. Right now it is 20 minutes --and that is in a car, not a school bus from Westfield. And, 5 minutes from Chantilly.

Which specific street?
And why won't you just answer the question asked? So you agree that Lees Corner is closer to Westfield than that area of Centreville?

You are picking out one "random street" in an area of Bull Run school. I picked out a random street of Lee's Corner. Almost all of Lee's Corner is within five minutes of Chantilly--some likely less.

Sorry, but much of Bull Run is equidistant to Westfield and Centreville. Big difference. And, again, Chantilly will no longer be overcrowded. No need. They can take those Chantilly kids who go to Cub Run. That makes sense if they need to take some from Chantilly to Westfield.
Go find another Centreville area to move.

I am an unaffected Chantilly family so familiar with this area. There is no way Lees Corner is 5 minutes to Chantilly, more like 10 minimum. Westfield maps is a 15 min ride. I too am becoming less sympathetic to your position the more you post time exaggerations like 5 min to Chantilly and 30 min to Westfield.

Um no, I live here. Chantilly is 5 minutes. Westfield would be 20 minutes in the middle of the day with absolutely no traffic. And my youngest is a hs senior so I have no dog in this fight.

From LCES, at noon on a Thursday, its 14 minutes/4.6 miles to Westfield. Per google maps.

This is pp. Feel free to believe what you want to believe (like the consultants that put these maps together). I live here and my kids went to Lees Corner and Chantilly and the Cub Run rec center which I go to fairly often is next door to Westfield so I drive these roads all the time. But of course Google maps knows better.

You haven't been honest with your posts so of course no one believes you over google maps.

Excuse me? I am not the same person as the one that was posting on the previous pages. But believe what you want to believe.

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Anonymous wrote:I was surprised they had any ES level changes.

And none of them logical as far as i can tell!

Navy to Chantilly makes sense. Que the meltdown....

It actually does. All the Navy families are much closer to Chantilly than Oakton. But most of the Navy Oakton Moms want to stay at Oakton. I don’t blame them. Who wants to be ripped out of their familiar high school?