Has Duran gone mad? (APS)

[Anonymous]

Check out School Personnel Lost To Covid on Twitter.

It's heartbreaking. There are so many that you wonder how the hell schools are open.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Except those aren’t the students opting for hybrid. Not in Arlington.

You think there aren’t any students with special needs in the more affluent schools?

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Anonymous wrote:LMAO I do not make 80k. You just made up an arbitrary number of years and went with that number

it wasn't totally arbitrary- you said you had multiple degrees, and had several years of experience teaching. So I went with the 'masters plus 30 units' scale and assumed about 10 years of teaching experience.

But honestly- if you go with masters plus 30 units and assume 5 years of experience- you would be making about 63k, which would turn into 76k over 12 mos. I still don't know entry level jobs (outside of biglaw) that employee people at 76k starting out.

You don’t know jobs that pay 63k for people with multiple degrees and other work experience (because teaching is not my first and only job)? Lol ok

I've been teaching 13 years and have my masters plus 30 in APS and don't make that much either- we've had years of pay freezes/no step increases since I started teaching. My younger brother has a bachelors degree in computer programming and has been working just over a year- he makes more $$ than me.

Do you have the same computer programming skills? Someone else’s salary is irrelevant unless you have the qualifications for that job.

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Anonymous wrote:Except those aren’t the students opting for hybrid. Not in Arlington.

You think there aren’t any students with special needs in the more affluent schools?

Oh this, please.

I have a student with an IEP in one of the more affluent schools and we picked virtual. A lot of other families in the same boat did too.

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Anonymous wrote:Except those aren’t the students opting for hybrid. Not in Arlington.

You think there aren’t any students with special needs in the more affluent schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Except those aren’t the students opting for hybrid. Not in Arlington.

You think there aren’t any students with special needs in the more affluent schools?

I’m sure you’re right. I’m sure the 80% at Jamestown who chose hybrid are all free and reduced lunch and IEPs. Thank god teachers are going back in the middle of a pandemic to help these kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Except those aren’t the students opting for hybrid. Not in Arlington.

You think there aren’t any students with special needs in the more affluent schools?

I’m sure you’re right. I’m sure the 80% at Jamestown who chose hybrid are all free and reduced lunch and IEPs. Thank god teachers are going back in the middle of a pandemic to help these kids.

+1000

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Ok so back to the real question (though the debates about how teachers deserve/don’t deserve respect are remarkably entertaining in that they are so ludicrous)...
No one thinks going back in the height of the pandemic is a good idea. The metrics are all red.
How do we get aps to see that there is a silent majority that does want to go back but not until metrics are met?

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Anonymous wrote:Except those aren’t the students opting for hybrid. Not in Arlington.

You think there aren’t any students with special needs in the more affluent schools?

I’m sure you’re right. I’m sure the 80% at Jamestown who chose hybrid are all free and reduced lunch and IEPs. Thank god teachers are going back in the middle of a pandemic to help these kids.

+1000

You mean actually provide what APS is required to provide? Because this virtual isn’t an education to many many kids who don’t have IEPs and those on FARMs. School isn’t just for them, FYI. My rich white kid is entitled to FAPE too. Kids in suburbs across country are in school. Districts with higher numbers! Get on with it, APS.

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Anonymous wrote:LMAO I do not make 80k. You just made up an arbitrary number of years and went with that number

it wasn't totally arbitrary- you said you had multiple degrees, and had several years of experience teaching. So I went with the 'masters plus 30 units' scale and assumed about 10 years of teaching experience.

But honestly- if you go with masters plus 30 units and assume 5 years of experience- you would be making about 63k, which would turn into 76k over 12 mos. I still don't know entry level jobs (outside of biglaw) that employee people at 76k starting out.

You don’t know jobs that pay 63k for people with multiple degrees and other work experience (because teaching is not my first and only job)? Lol ok

I've been teaching 13 years and have my masters plus 30 in APS and don't make that much either- we've had years of pay freezes/no step increases since I started teaching. My younger brother has a bachelors degree in computer programming and has been working just over a year- he makes more $$ than me.

Do you have the same computer programming skills? Someone else’s salary is irrelevant unless you have the qualifications for that job.

Yes that’s exactly the point though right?? There are lots of entry level jobs that make way more than a teacher with 13 years of experience. But no, I’m an overpaid teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:Except those aren’t the students opting for hybrid. Not in Arlington.

You think there aren’t any students with special needs in the more affluent schools?

I’m sure you’re right. I’m sure the 80% at Jamestown who chose hybrid are all free and reduced lunch and IEPs. Thank god teachers are going back in the middle of a pandemic to help these kids.

I have a child with special needs at Jamestown, and we picked hybrid because my child not only isn’t learning but is regressing in distance learning. So please stop showing your ass and keep your ignorant assumptions to yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:LMAO I do not make 80k. You just made up an arbitrary number of years and went with that number

it wasn't totally arbitrary- you said you had multiple degrees, and had several years of experience teaching. So I went with the 'masters plus 30 units' scale and assumed about 10 years of teaching experience.

But honestly- if you go with masters plus 30 units and assume 5 years of experience- you would be making about 63k, which would turn into 76k over 12 mos. I still don't know entry level jobs (outside of biglaw) that employee people at 76k starting out.

You don’t know jobs that pay 63k for people with multiple degrees and other work experience (because teaching is not my first and only job)? Lol ok

I've been teaching 13 years and have my masters plus 30 in APS and don't make that much either- we've had years of pay freezes/no step increases since I started teaching. My younger brother has a bachelors degree in computer programming and has been working just over a year- he makes more $$ than me.

Do you have the same computer programming skills? Someone else’s salary is irrelevant unless you have the qualifications for that job.

Yes that’s exactly the point though right?? There are lots of entry level jobs that make way more than a teacher with 13 years of experience. But no, I’m an overpaid teacher.

Whether teachers are adequately compensated is off topic from this discussion. The issue was how realistic it is for current teachers to find new non-teaching jobs at a comparable salary on short notice in a pandemic when unemployment rates are above average. That someone else made more than you as an entry level computer programmer is completely irrelevant to that question unless you have the necessary skills for an entry level computer programming job.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids are safer at schools?? What are you letting your kids do right now that makes that a true statement. Because my kids are seeing friends outdoors with masks and playing sports outdoors with masks. And staying indoors with just our immediate family. They are safer at home. Unless you are letting your kids mix with other kids without masks or letting them jump from buildings, they are safer at home. If you want to argue they are SAFE ENOUGH at school be my guess. We can disagree about that. But safer at school? No.

That’s nice for you that you have the luxury to keep your kids at home all the time. That means you either have a stay at home parent or a parent with an extremely flexible telework job. Lots of people don’t have that luxury and have to put their kids in various child care situations

ok so please describe your knowledge of child care situations and tell us about the ones you know about in APS that are less safe than being in school. specifics, please, PP, not just assumptions.

Not the PP but I will admit that I've seen a lot of kids walking together, socializing at Harris Teeter shops, Starbucks, etc etc.. all without masks. I think the notion of kids being safer at school is because they will have to wear masks and social distance in school. Nine months in and expecting kids to not see friends in a social setting is practically impossible. I know several families that have "small bubbles" of kids they allow their children to hang out with, maskless. It's a risk many are willing to take at this point, but if they were in school with masks and proper safety measures, it would be safer than them socializing without.

LOL. It's not impossible, practically or otherwise. Millions of people across the country are doing it.

It's just inconvenient, and GOD only knows in the privileged DCUM classes, we can't have that...

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Anonymous wrote:Check out School Personnel Lost To Covid on Twitter.

It's heartbreaking. There are so many that you wonder how the hell schools are open.

That Twitter account is a good amount of emotional manipulation. When you include as purported school-related covid deaths private music instructors who didn’t work for any schools and a woman who most likely caught it from her elderly father, you’re being pretty disingenuous.