Has Duran gone mad? (APS)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LMAO I do not make 80k. You just made up an arbitrary number of years and went with that number

it wasn't totally arbitrary- you said you had multiple degrees, and had several years of experience teaching. So I went with the 'masters plus 30 units' scale and assumed about 10 years of teaching experience.

But honestly- if you go with masters plus 30 units and assume 5 years of experience- you would be making about 63k, which would turn into 76k over 12 mos. I still don't know entry level jobs (outside of biglaw) that employee people at 76k starting out.

Literally any “consultant” working in the Federal IT or Defense space makes more than this to start. And they top out a lot higher than teachers, and rarely have multiple degrees, and people don’t denigrate their livelihoods, even though anyone can do that job, unlike teaching.

Thank you. I am a published writer, I am educated, and I excelled in my field. PP seems to think I’m demanding a six figure job with unlimited vacation but I am not, and what I am seeking, I’m qualified for. I will never understand the logic of treating the people in charge of educating your children as barely literate unemployable cretins.

Ignore them. They're just throwing a tantrum because how dare The Help actually leave a JOB that changes to unsafe working conditions instead of being their babysitter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Staff was told verbally (guessing this was intentional). Only know of ES phases: PK-K go back in January; 1st and 2nd February; 3rd through 5th in March.

I don't know if you are APS, but this time line is completely inaccurate now. All will be back in mid Februrary.

I was regretting picking DL and foreclosing any hybrid for the year til I saw this. I hope for the sake of those who did choose hybrid that this isn’t true. This is basically APS caving to APE and the Wash Post. Drama and fear of publicity over science and safety for staff and students. I hope they start to have fully staffed live school board meetings BEFORE they send teachers back to the classroom.

This. AND that all of central office is working in the office, not from home, before they tell us it is "safe" to send our kids into school.

I think they should have to work in schools, with children, first.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Staff was told verbally (guessing this was intentional). Only know of ES phases: PK-K go back in January; 1st and 2nd February; 3rd through 5th in March.

I don't know if you are APS, but this time line is completely inaccurate now. All will be back in mid Februrary.

I was regretting picking DL and foreclosing any hybrid for the year til I saw this. I hope for the sake of those who did choose hybrid that this isn’t true. This is basically APS caving to APE and the Wash Post. Drama and fear of publicity over science and safety for staff and students. I hope they start to have fully staffed live school board meetings BEFORE they send teachers back to the classroom.

This. AND that all of central office is working in the office, not from home, before they tell us it is "safe" to send our kids into school.

I think they should have to work in schools, with children, first.

Point taken and fully supported.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Staff was told verbally (guessing this was intentional). Only know of ES phases: PK-K go back in January; 1st and 2nd February; 3rd through 5th in March.

I don't know if you are APS, but this time line is completely inaccurate now. All will be back in mid Februrary.

I was regretting picking DL and foreclosing any hybrid for the year til I saw this. I hope for the sake of those who did choose hybrid that this isn’t true. This is basically APS caving to APE and the Wash Post. Drama and fear of publicity over science and safety for staff and students. I hope they start to have fully staffed live school board meetings BEFORE they send teachers back to the classroom.

This. AND that all of central office is working in the office, not from home, before they tell us it is "safe" to send our kids into school.

I think they should have to work in schools, with children, first.

Agree 100%. No one should be sent into a classroom until the school board, central offices, and BOS resume all meetings in person. And they have to have lunch together in those same meeting rooms, too.

[Anonymous]

Why are you teachers so special again? 50 percent of our country’s teachers are back in the classroom. You teachers who want to stay home despite seeing the mental health and educational harms to kids are a disgrace. You all should just resign and let the dedicated lot of young teachers start helping them kids recover from this tragedy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are you teachers so special again? 50 percent of our country’s teachers are back in the classroom. You teachers who want to stay home despite seeing the mental health and educational harms to kids are a disgrace. You all should just resign and let the dedicated lot of young teachers start helping them kids recover from this tragedy

Lolol

The “dedicated lot of young teachers” will be beaten into the ground by year 3 and gone afterward. That’s why 70% of teachers leave before year 5. You go in thinking YOU matter and YOU will MAKE A DIFFERENCE. And you quickly see the education system won’t let you because they don’t really care about kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are you teachers so special again? 50 percent of our country’s teachers are back in the classroom. You teachers who want to stay home despite seeing the mental health and educational harms to kids are a disgrace. You all should just resign and let the dedicated lot of young teachers start helping them kids recover from this tragedy

The older and more experienced teachers (who aren’t burnt out) are really important to the teaching profession. They mentor the new teachers in my school. I don’t think it is a good idea to just retire a bunch of staff and bring in newcomers for the sake of getting school started again a few months in advance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are you teachers so special again? 50 percent of our country’s teachers are back in the classroom. You teachers who want to stay home despite seeing the mental health and educational harms to kids are a disgrace. You all should just resign and let the dedicated lot of young teachers start helping them kids recover from this tragedy

The older and more experienced teachers (who aren’t burnt out) are really important to the teaching profession. They mentor the new teachers in my school. I don’t think it is a good idea to just retire a bunch of staff and bring in newcomers for the sake of getting school started again a few months in advance.

Let’s also just be clear I am a teacher. I am there to educate in my content area. I am not a counselor, therapist, or mental health professional. Don’t you send your kids to school with any expectation I am capable of or responsible for helping them recover their mental health. You need a professional for that, mom.

[Anonymous]

Daycare workers have been working with children for months. They are working with young children much more closely than any school teacher would ever work with children in a classroom.

Teachers aren’t more susceptible they simply are more organized and better paid so they feel they are entitled to teach from home and those poor people who have low wage jobs like daycare deserve to work because they get an education, they didn’t work as hard, etc

Every single time you think it’s so dangerous for teachers to be in a classroom where they will have minimal one on one contact with children stop and remember that everyday daycare workers are working with young children - holding them, helping them eat, helping them wash hands and so on - and everyday they come in contact with those children’s parents and are in a building all day with other adults. And then remember that there are kids that are 4,5 and even 6 because yes those ages are in daycares right now and are the same ages of children that teaches argued they can’t be around.

The argument teachers are making is they are “better than” so how dare they be expected to work. I have no respect for any of the teachers. I have even less respect for those who champion their faux cause.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Daycare workers have been working with children for months. They are working with young children much more closely than any school teacher would ever work with children in a classroom.

Teachers aren’t more susceptible they simply are more organized and better paid so they feel they are entitled to teach from home and those poor people who have low wage jobs like daycare deserve to work because they get an education, they didn’t work as hard, etc

Every single time you think it’s so dangerous for teachers to be in a classroom where they will have minimal one on one contact with children stop and remember that everyday daycare workers are working with young children - holding them, helping them eat, helping them wash hands and so on - and everyday they come in contact with those children’s parents and are in a building all day with other adults. And then remember that there are kids that are 4,5 and even 6 because yes those ages are in daycares right now and are the same ages of children that teaches argued they can’t be around.

The argument teachers are making is they are “better than” so how dare they be expected to work. I have no respect for any of the teachers. I have even less respect for those who champion their faux cause.

And they were at risk doing so but they work for companies that have to earn a profit. So they had to open. If we lived somewhere like Australia that actually addressed the pandemic and paid people to stay home and people in our country cared about each other enough to mask and lock down until it was gone, this wouldn’t be an issue. But saying “some people had to go work in unsafe conditions so everyone should” while you yourself are almost CERTAINLY working remote right now is not the answer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are you teachers so special again? 50 percent of our country’s teachers are back in the classroom. You teachers who want to stay home despite seeing the mental health and educational harms to kids are a disgrace. You all should just resign and let the dedicated lot of young teachers start helping them kids recover from this tragedy

Here in Arlington, dozens of schools been open in person since August. Those teachers have gone back to the classroom to teach. No issues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are you teachers so special again? 50 percent of our country’s teachers are back in the classroom. You teachers who want to stay home despite seeing the mental health and educational harms to kids are a disgrace. You all should just resign and let the dedicated lot of young teachers start helping them kids recover from this tragedy

Here in Arlington, dozens of schools been open in person since August. Those teachers have gone back to the classroom to teach. No issues.

You literally cannot say “no issues.” No deaths maybe. But that does not mean there were “no issues.” Yall just speak so damn confidently about stuff you have zero actual experience or knowledge of. Constantly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are you teachers so special again? 50 percent of our country’s teachers are back in the classroom. You teachers who want to stay home despite seeing the mental health and educational harms to kids are a disgrace. You all should just resign and let the dedicated lot of young teachers start helping them kids recover from this tragedy

Here in Arlington, dozens of schools been open in person since August. Those teachers have gone back to the classroom to teach. No issues.

Exactly... APS is one of the rare school systems that has not opened at all since closing in March.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are you teachers so special again? 50 percent of our country’s teachers are back in the classroom. You teachers who want to stay home despite seeing the mental health and educational harms to kids are a disgrace. You all should just resign and let the dedicated lot of young teachers start helping them kids recover from this tragedy

Here in Arlington, dozens of schools been open in person since August. Those teachers have gone back to the classroom to teach. No issues.

Exactly... APS is one of the rare school systems that has not opened at all since closing in March.

Not really rare. I friends all over the country whose children hasn't been inside a physical school. School is open, BTW.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are you teachers so special again? 50 percent of our country’s teachers are back in the classroom. You teachers who want to stay home despite seeing the mental health and educational harms to kids are a disgrace. You all should just resign and let the dedicated lot of young teachers start helping them kids recover from this tragedy

Here in Arlington, dozens of schools been open in person since August. Those teachers have gone back to the classroom to teach. No issues.

There are not dozens of non-APS schools in Arlington.