Unvaxxed child in Texas just died of the measles

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:West Virginia is one of the very few states left that does not allow religious exemptions for vaccinations. School age children must be vaccinated with the standard slate of vaccines to enter school. However, their rate of vaccinations for younger than school age children is very low, I assume because many families wait until the last moment.

The state legislature passed a bill to allow religious exemptions in 2024, which was vetoed by Governor Jim Justice. Justice, who now holds manchin’s vacated senate seat, is a republican who heeded medical professionals’ advice and promoted the COVID vaccine while he was governor and drew the ire of his party when he vetoed religious exceptions. Now that Justice is no longer governor, who knows what will happen. Recently, there was a case of measles in West Virginia from a traveler who had traveled abroad. Despite 150 traces contacts, no one else contracted measles.

Mississippi is a state that, until 2023, did not allow religious exceptions for childhood vaccinations. It once led the nation in percentage of vaccinated children, but no longer.

The reason I mention these two states is that RFK Jr is right - the outbreaks have happened before. But every time the percentage of immunized Americans ticks down by a tenth of a percent, every time a state allows religious exemptions, every time someone like RFK Jr sows doubt about vaccines and someone listens, we are closer to the tipping point where a single exposure infects 10 contacts out of 150, then 20, then 30, etc. And that also goes for infections that sound antiquated like pertussis, polio, diphtheria, etc.

Should we panic? No, but it’s stupid not to recognize that things will get a lot worse if we continue on this trend of not vaccinating ourselves and our kids. Why wait?

This!!! We have gotten lax on exemption allowances - the GOP is leaning into this, and we have RFK Jr touting vaccination as a "personal choice." Particularly with measles which is incredibly contagious, airborne, lingers in the air hours after an infected person leaves, this means kids too young to be vaccinated become increasingly at risk.

[Anonymous]

Unvaccinated adult dies in New Mexico.

We will see a lot more of this, particularly in red "anti vaxxer" areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:West Virginia is one of the very few states left that does not allow religious exemptions for vaccinations. School age children must be vaccinated with the standard slate of vaccines to enter school. However, their rate of vaccinations for younger than school age children is very low, I assume because many families wait until the last moment.

The state legislature passed a bill to allow religious exemptions in 2024, which was vetoed by Governor Jim Justice. Justice, who now holds manchin’s vacated senate seat, is a republican who heeded medical professionals’ advice and promoted the COVID vaccine while he was governor and drew the ire of his party when he vetoed religious exceptions. Now that Justice is no longer governor, who knows what will happen. Recently, there was a case of measles in West Virginia from a traveler who had traveled abroad. Despite 150 traces contacts, no one else contracted measles.

Mississippi is a state that, until 2023, did not allow religious exceptions for childhood vaccinations. It once led the nation in percentage of vaccinated children, but no longer.

The reason I mention these two states is that RFK Jr is right - the outbreaks have happened before. But every time the percentage of immunized Americans ticks down by a tenth of a percent, every time a state allows religious exemptions, every time someone like RFK Jr sows doubt about vaccines and someone listens, we are closer to the tipping point where a single exposure infects 10 contacts out of 150, then 20, then 30, etc. And that also goes for infections that sound antiquated like pertussis, polio, diphtheria, etc.

Should we panic? No, but it’s stupid not to recognize that things will get a lot worse if we continue on this trend of not vaccinating ourselves and our kids. Why wait?

This!!! We have gotten lax on exemption allowances - the GOP is leaning into this, and we have RFK Jr touting vaccination as a "personal choice." Particularly with measles which is incredibly contagious, airborne, lingers in the air hours after an infected person leaves, this means kids too young to be vaccinated become increasingly at risk.

The more children who die from 100% preventable diseases means the fewer future MAGAS. It's a win-win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was born a few years before MMR was available and I had both types of measles as did every kid in the neighborhood and none of us were hospitalized or died.
Modern medicine is light years above 1970 so why are kids dying from it in 2025?

Do you have a doctor you trust?

You really should go talk to them about this.

Why? I have lifetime immunity and my children were vaccinated.

Do you want measles to be out of control when your future grandkids are in utero and newborn?

But, PP's point is that if you want to understand why people still die from measles, you should ask a trusted doctor.

In short though, you and your friends didn't die or become hospitalized or suffer long term disabilities from it (as far as you know), but others did. And the same will be true today. No matter how far after-the-fact medical treatment comes, people still die and become disabled from medical causes (obviously). When that cause is preventable, we should prevent it. The more contagious (will infect many) and/or the more deadly (will be devastating to any even if only a few get it) something is, the more focus we should place on prevention.

[Anonymous]

Even when it's not deadly, a huge measles outbreak can and has quickly overwhelm hospitals, esp smaller ones in rural areas. This can be catastrophic

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was born a few years before MMR was available and I had both types of measles as did every kid in the neighborhood and none of us were hospitalized or died.
Modern medicine is light years above 1970 so why are kids dying from it in 2025?

Do you have a doctor you trust?

You really should go talk to them about this.

Why? I have lifetime immunity and my children were vaccinated.

Because you asked a medical question are having trouble understanding the answer.

From a recent article:

Measles typically kills one to three people per 1,000 cases, said Dr. Tina Tan, an infectious disease expert at Northwestern University in Chicago. She said two deaths out of a total of 164 cases suggest "a much higher mortality rate than we would normally see," adding that there are probably many undetected cases.

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Do you think its smart to kill 0.3% of the population from one disease, and on an on for every other disease?

"Modern medicine" is vaccines. Viruses are hard to kill.

[Anonymous]

“Modern medicine” can’t cure everything. Even today, kids die of RSV, flu, strep, sepsis, and other causes. Once the cascade starts it’s hard to stop. We can cut your head open when measles swells your brain and flood you with steroids and antivirals, but I think we’d all agree it’s better to avoid brain swelling in the first place.

And the people talking about Whole Foods curing measles - what exactly do you think people were eating prior to the 1960s when they were dying and being blinded and maimed by measles? From scratch home cooking, that’s what. Meat, potato, veg, almost all what we would call organic and non GMO today.

[Anonymous]

Poor kid, killed by their MAGA idiot parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Modern medicine” can’t cure everything. Even today, kids die of RSV, flu, strep, sepsis, and other causes. Once the cascade starts it’s hard to stop. We can cut your head open when measles swells your brain and flood you with steroids and antivirals, but I think we’d all agree it’s better to avoid brain swelling in the first place.

And the people talking about Whole Foods curing measles - what exactly do you think people were eating prior to the 1960s when they were dying and being blinded and maimed by measles? From scratch home cooking, that’s what. Meat, potato, veg, almost all what we would call organic and non GMO today.

It’s hard to believe it’s only been 6 weeks. Easy to destroy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unvaccinated adult dies in New Mexico.

We will see a lot more of this, particularly in red "anti vaxxer" areas.

Agreed that we will see more of this reporting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Modern medicine” can’t cure everything. Even today, kids die of RSV, flu, strep, sepsis, and other causes. Once the cascade starts it’s hard to stop. We can cut your head open when measles swells your brain and flood you with steroids and antivirals, but I think we’d all agree it’s better to avoid brain swelling in the first place.

And the people talking about Whole Foods curing measles - what exactly do you think people were eating prior to the 1960s when they were dying and being blinded and maimed by measles? From scratch home cooking, that’s what. Meat, potato, veg, almost all what we would call organic and non GMO today.

It’s hard to believe it’s only been 6 weeks. Easy to destroy.

There were 285 measles cases in 2024 in 33 states. Do you recall how the mainstream media reported on this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was born a few years before MMR was available and I had both types of measles as did every kid in the neighborhood and none of us were hospitalized or died.
Modern medicine is light years above 1970 so why are kids dying from it in 2025?

Do you have a doctor you trust?

You really should go talk to them about this.

Why? I have lifetime immunity and my children were vaccinated.

Lifetime immunity from a the measles virus wanes over time making up to 6% of that population vulnerable. Among vaccinated individuals, about 20% do not retain immunity. It appears that due to vaccine overuse, the measles may have mutated to a different virus and more of us vaccinated will be vulnerable.

That along with our toxic food, water and air will lead to more epidemics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Modern medicine” can’t cure everything. Even today, kids die of RSV, flu, strep, sepsis, and other causes. Once the cascade starts it’s hard to stop. We can cut your head open when measles swells your brain and flood you with steroids and antivirals, but I think we’d all agree it’s better to avoid brain swelling in the first place.

And the people talking about Whole Foods curing measles - what exactly do you think people were eating prior to the 1960s when they were dying and being blinded and maimed by measles? From scratch home cooking, that’s what. Meat, potato, veg, almost all what we would call organic and non GMO today.

It’s hard to believe it’s only been 6 weeks. Easy to destroy.

There were 285 measles cases in 2024 in 33 states. Do you recall how the mainstream media reported on this?

285 cases in 2024 (52 weeks)
222 cases in 2025 (9 weeks)

See something here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was born a few years before MMR was available and I had both types of measles as did every kid in the neighborhood and none of us were hospitalized or died.
Modern medicine is light years above 1970 so why are kids dying from it in 2025?

Do you have a doctor you trust?

You really should go talk to them about this.

Why? I have lifetime immunity and my children were vaccinated.

Lifetime immunity from a the measles virus wanes over time making up to 6% of that population vulnerable. Among vaccinated individuals, about 20% do not retain immunity. It appears that due to vaccine overuse, the measles may have mutated to a different virus and more of us vaccinated will be vulnerable.

That along with our toxic food, water and air will lead to more epidemics.

This part is conspiracy. The thinking is it is more prevalent than is known of - there are always more cases than identified with a test in a clinic or hospital. Not that measles is suddenly more severe or mutated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Modern medicine” can’t cure everything. Even today, kids die of RSV, flu, strep, sepsis, and other causes. Once the cascade starts it’s hard to stop. We can cut your head open when measles swells your brain and flood you with steroids and antivirals, but I think we’d all agree it’s better to avoid brain swelling in the first place.

And the people talking about Whole Foods curing measles - what exactly do you think people were eating prior to the 1960s when they were dying and being blinded and maimed by measles? From scratch home cooking, that’s what. Meat, potato, veg, almost all what we would call organic and non GMO today.

It’s hard to believe it’s only been 6 weeks. Easy to destroy.

There were 285 measles cases in 2024 in 33 states. Do you recall how the mainstream media reported on this?

How many deaths?

Texas and New Mexico are already over 200. Don’t worry. Good chance Trump can get higher numbers than Biden.