
At some point the decision needs to be made. This back and forth is awful for the democrats. Just pick someone and move forward. |
Well, the democrats are absolutely losing then. |
They don't have a Plan B, but they should have. Unfortunately, there was nothing they could offer Harris to step aside other than a Supreme Court slot, but none are available. |
Former astronaut and current Senator from Arizona. |
updated one minute ago…
Live Updates: Biden Plans to Resume Campaigning as More Democrats Urge Him to Quit Here’s the latest on the Democratic campaign. President Biden, isolating after a Covid diagnosis, pledged to return to the campaign trail next week even as more Democrats on Friday urged him to end his re-election campaign. Mr. Biden showed no signs publicly of stepping aside even as he appeared in private to be softening his insistence on remaining in the race amid growing pressure from his party. Discussions among Mr. Biden’s advisers have advanced to the point that they are talking about the best timing and other details for an announcement if the president decides to give up his bid for a second term, according to one person informed about the situation. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/19/us/biden-election-news |
It has been made. He's staying in. |
I hope Joe is watching this on repeat 5x a day: |
They are anyway. The upheaval will serve no purpose. |
+1. |
I'm almost certain Joe made that decision 2-3 weeks ago. No one wanted to believe the word of the President of the United States. Everyone thought he was a weak-willed man. That was a mistake on their part. And now they need to atone. |
Every time someone asks Joe to drop out, he replies he’s staying. Tell me who is going to voluntarily give up the Oval Office? No one. |
I’m not. To keep donations flowing in he needs to be all the way in until he’s out. |
Then you will find this NYT article that was published today interesting. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/19/us/politics/biden-defiance.html It was in October 2015 when Mr. Biden, then vice president and grieving over the loss of his son Beau five months earlier, announced in the White House Rose Garden that he would not run against Hillary Clinton and Senator Bernie Sanders for the Democratic presidential nomination. A few months later he looked back on the decision and said, “I regret it every day.” Publicly, he explained his decision not to run by saying that the grief process was unpredictable and that it “doesn’t respect or much care about things like filing deadlines or debates and primaries and caucuses.” With President Barack Obama and his wife, Jill, by his side, Mr. Biden said that “it may very well be that that process, by the time we get through it, closes the window on mounting a realistic campaign for president.” In conclusion, he said, “it has closed.” But privately, people close to him said he was furious at what he saw as a concerted effort to push him aside in favor of the other candidate. It was a precursor to the kind of pressure he is now under from fellow Democrats. Then, like now, his friends made the case that he would lose — to Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Sanders, and later to Mr. Trump. David Plouffe, Mr. Obama’s top political adviser at the time, sat down with Mr. Biden and showed him polling, The Atlantic reported. “Do you really want it to end in a hotel room in Des Moines, coming in third to Bernie Sanders?” (Eight years earlier, Mr. Biden had finished fifth in the Iowa caucuses and dropped out of the race.) To Mr. Biden, the message was clear: Mr. Obama wanted him to stay on the sidelines. So did Mr. Obama’s aides. And Mrs. Clinton. The grief over his son was real. But so was the feeling, according to several people who had conversations with him at the time, that he was being railroaded by people to whom he had been nothing but loyal for years. He deserved better, he told allies, and thought he would have proved them wrong if he had run. David Axelrod, who as a senior adviser to Mr. Obama observed Mr. Biden closely for years, said the vice president has had a chip on his shoulder about the decision, fueled in part by anger that he had been driven out of a race by people who never really respected him the way he thought they should have. “That chip,” Mr. Axelrod said, “is the battery pack that has driven him his entire life.” |
We picked Biden. |
Unfortunately dementia and strong willed can go together. |