This Is Us final season

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Anonymous wrote:I understand Madison not wanting to go to the cabin, but why not the twins? Why are they acting like Kevin isn't rich? Surely he could hire a manny to travel with him to help care for the kids. And haven't they established that the twins are on formula? Can they get a lawyer already to hash out a custody agreement?

. His whole storyline living in Madisons' garage and now with Kate makes no sense for a real movie star.

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Anonymous wrote:One recap I read was pretty negative about Elijah’s “talk” with Kevin, saying Elijah had some toxic “nice guy but aggro” vibes and yeah, I kinda saw that too. Maybe he’s not going to be the great guy they all think he is.

I think Kevin acts very entitled where Madison is concerned and Elijah was drawing a line in the sand. I didn't get aggro vibes. I think it was clear Kevin assumed he'd be a pushover in all things.

DP. Exactly what I was going to say. Kevin has very clearly been acting (subconsciously or not) like the alpha around Elijah, as if Elijah is just some temporary nuisance and not to be taken seriously. I was actually quite impressed that Elijah had the balls to lay it out like that to Kevin. He was firm but not rude and I think Kevin has newfound respect for him now. I thought it was a good - and completely unexpected - scene.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s going to be Sophie. Obvious not Cassidy and I think Kevin is relegated to Madison and Elijah being together (“If she says she doesn’t want anything, just buy her something”).

I'm the PP who wrote this and this last episode only reinforces my belief that it'll be Sophie.

I hope to God not. That would be the pinnacle of this show's worst feature-- the whole over-the-top Super Dad/Soulmate crap. The true beauty of the show is in the small, real life moments. The only time I really loved Jack was when he was cleaning up the kitchen after the Super Bowl on the night of the fire. It showed the small, overlooked ways we care for and show love for those close to us.

That's what also makes me hope and believe that Madison is the end game. Kevin is showing love for her in those little, unrecognized ways. He doesn't even recognize himself, yet. He thinks love is the big romantic flourishes, but he's already loving her with his thoughtfulness and small, unselfish acts.

If the writers put Kevin with Sophie at the end, they will have remarkably missed the most important message of the show.

(Also, if Sophie were the end game, she would have been helping Kate get ready for her second wedding, but she's not there. Madison is.)

PP again. Also, we know that Kate and Toby get divorced. Toby is the master of the big gesture, but in the end, that's not what made a happy, loving marriage. Toby is blowing up his marriage by missing out on all the small stuff and not recognizing that a big birthday gesture doesn't make up for that.

I think, also, over the course of the show, that Jack and Rebecca's marriage was strong not because of Jack's flowery speeches or anything like that. It was because through good and bad, he was there, doing his part. They listened to each other, shared their thoughts and feelings, were mindful of the other's contributions, and shared the burden and joys of the thousands of moments that go into raising children.

True, but there relationship had romance and depth before children and they were able to sustain it through commitment and attention to the little things. Kevin wasn't mature enough to do that with Sophie, since he only understand the grand romance part. I think they can and will reunite, once he realizes his inability to be part of a love that was both mature and romantic. Although I do think he has feelings for Madison, there's never been one ounce of a romantic spark there.

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It will be Sophie in the end. I have forgotten - when did he and Sophie get back together and why did they break up again? Not when they were newly married, but later when they reconnected. It's been awhile!

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Anonymous wrote:One recap I read was pretty negative about Elijah’s “talk” with Kevin, saying Elijah had some toxic “nice guy but aggro” vibes and yeah, I kinda saw that too. Maybe he’s not going to be the great guy they all think he is.

I think Kevin acts very entitled where Madison is concerned and Elijah was drawing a line in the sand. I didn't get aggro vibes. I think it was clear Kevin assumed he'd be a pushover in all things.

DP. Exactly what I was going to say. Kevin has very clearly been acting (subconsciously or not) like the alpha around Elijah, as if Elijah is just some temporary nuisance and not to be taken seriously. I was actually quite impressed that Elijah had the balls to lay it out like that to Kevin. He was firm but not rude and I think Kevin has newfound respect for him now. I thought it was a good - and completely unexpected - scene.

Just coming here to say I hate the term "alpha" and tuned out the rest. My God.

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Anonymous wrote:One recap I read was pretty negative about Elijah’s “talk” with Kevin, saying Elijah had some toxic “nice guy but aggro” vibes and yeah, I kinda saw that too. Maybe he’s not going to be the great guy they all think he is.

I think Kevin acts very entitled where Madison is concerned and Elijah was drawing a line in the sand. I didn't get aggro vibes. I think it was clear Kevin assumed he'd be a pushover in all things.

DP. Exactly what I was going to say. Kevin has very clearly been acting (subconsciously or not) like the alpha around Elijah, as if Elijah is just some temporary nuisance and not to be taken seriously. I was actually quite impressed that Elijah had the balls to lay it out like that to Kevin. He was firm but not rude and I think Kevin has newfound respect for him now. I thought it was a good - and completely unexpected - scene.

Agreed.

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I think Kevin has been very accommodating of the relationship

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Did you catch that Rebecca called young Kevin and young Sophie's relationship a great love story (or something like that) just before Sophie found out Kevin cheated?

Could be one of those clues to a full-circle story line that they end up together.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you catch that Rebecca called young Kevin and young Sophie's relationship a great love story (or something like that) just before Sophie found out Kevin cheated?

Could be one of those clues to a full-circle story line that they end up together.

Yes, I thought so too. It's Sophie.

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Looking at it from a business standpoint. Madison is the real life wife the head writer. Of course he is going to make it his wife.

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I thought a few episodes ago Kevin was going back to Pennsylvania to look into the building of the house for Rebecca by the cabin. Isn’t that what he was doing it when he ran into Cassidy?

Anyway, to me would make sense that he wouldn’t invest in a house in California if he knows he’s going to move to the new cabin. Maybe he was hoping Madison the Twins would love it there too.

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Anonymous wrote:Alrighty, we are back.

I had my doubts about this episode. I was like, do I really need to see another Beth origin story (which is mean because Beth is arguably the best character on this series) but I did and so do you. Very satisfying.

The mystery of Kevin's future intensifies. I find Elijah to be an annoying dork, but dude brought it at the end.

I think Madison is a jerk for not joining Pearson Thanksgiving. Sorry, I do.

I teared up at Miguel and Rebecca's best friends declaration.

Sophie is BAAACKK.

A little unsatisfying, but I hope it's just the beginning.

Agree. Imagine every teacher or coach had kids calling them with all of their past grievances….

I like Elijah for Madison, very much. I do agree she should have sucked it up for the Pearson Thanksgiving though, given Rebecca's situation and the fact that it is very premature to insist on celebrating it with Elijah.

As much as I like the character, I had mixed feelings about Beth's storyline. 95% of people who aim for careers in the performing arts don't succeed, just the way that it is. Disappointing, yes, but I don't feel the teacher was some kind of a monster. You'd think as an adult she'd be much more understanding of the fact that she didn't have "it" and so objectively lost out to a better dancer for one show. ONE SHOW. She didn't have to give up based on one disappointment, she chose to and it was very immature.

OK but you’re thinking about it from an adult perspective, she was a teen who just lost her dad. World blown up from multiple perspectives. She needed someone and her mother was emotionally cold. Her teacher and she strivrd to be perfect for dismissed her with barely a conversation. From a teen perspective, even little things can be “earth shattering”… the combination of everything going on for her – it would’ve been a minor miracle had she persevered with no support from any of the adults in her life.

I completely get all of that, but my issue is her feeling the need to make that phone call as an adult.

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That's the kind of confrontation you have if you've been abused (emotionally, etc.). The teacher seemed like a perfectly decent person who was probably just a little cold when she could have used more support. Ridiculous story line.

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Isn’t it strange Randall is the only one to have a normal relationship but obviously had more issues growing up?

The only relationship I’m even remotely interested in is Kevin’s.

Some of the episodes are long and the connections of past and future could have been made in a shorter time frame. It’s almost like they are just trying to fill in episodes to give a full season.

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Anonymous wrote:One recap I read was pretty negative about Elijah’s “talk” with Kevin, saying Elijah had some toxic “nice guy but aggro” vibes and yeah, I kinda saw that too. Maybe he’s not going to be the great guy they all think he is.

I think Kevin acts very entitled where Madison is concerned and Elijah was drawing a line in the sand. I didn't get aggro vibes. I think it was clear Kevin assumed he'd be a pushover in all things.

DP. Exactly what I was going to say. Kevin has very clearly been acting (subconsciously or not) like the alpha around Elijah, as if Elijah is just some temporary nuisance and not to be taken seriously. I was actually quite impressed that Elijah had the balls to lay it out like that to Kevin. He was firm but not rude and I think Kevin has newfound respect for him now. I thought it was a good - and completely unexpected - scene.

Just coming here to say I hate the term "alpha" and tuned out the rest. My God.

Ok... thanks for adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at it from a business standpoint. Madison is the real life wife the head writer. Of course he is going to make it his wife.

Not just the head writer. The creator and runner of the entire show.

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Re Rebecca and Miguel, isn’t there a scene a few seasons ago when Rebecca finds Miguel on Facebook? So I wonder if they have a falling out (maybe around this time because of Matt) and then reconnect years later through Facebook?