Lockdown at Blair?

[Anonymous]

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Well, as someone who grew up low income to parents who don't speak English, I can tell you that I want SROs in the schools. I bet a lot of other low income parents also would feel better if there were SROs in the schools protecting their kids. The Principals sure seem to think having SROs in schools is better than not having them. Maybe Jawando should listen to the people who interact with these kids everyday.

You want SROs in [high] schools doing what? Protecting kids how?

What is your proposal?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If people are against SRO's and increasing security in the high schools, then what do you recommend to be done given we've had multiple incidents on school property?

Hire psychologists. Put them through the police academy.

Don’t hire someone with two years at a community college And pop them in the middle of a school with little to no training.

You think psychologists want that?

[Anonymous]

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Well, as someone who grew up low income to parents who don't speak English, I can tell you that I want SROs in the schools. I bet a lot of other low income parents also would feel better if there were SROs in the schools protecting their kids. The Principals sure seem to think having SROs in schools is better than not having them. Maybe Jawando should listen to the people who interact with these kids everyday.

You want SROs in [high] schools doing what? Protecting kids how?

how are the cops at Blair today protecting the kids? What are they doing? Do you think it was a waste of taxpayer $ to have those cops there today, tomorrow?

The big issue is threat of retaliation. Ask why the brother of the suspect brought a knife to school today. To protect himself from retaliation? Maybe. To hurt others? I don't know. But that is the question.

There are ongoing beefs among kids that are getting violent and staying violent. Cops are there today to make sure nothing happens in the days after. This year, in particular, we really need them there full time. The kids are not OK after this pandemic. They just aren't. Any kid can get a ghost gun. They can order them online. https://www.ghostrifles.com/build-kits/

Please wake up, folks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If people are against SRO's and increasing security in the high schools, then what do you recommend to be done given we've had multiple incidents on school property?

Hire psychologists. Put them through the police academy.

Don’t hire someone with two years at a community college And pop them in the middle of a school with little to no training.

There are no rookies who become SROs. Most SROs are very experienced. They have a special application process to become an SRO. Well, they did. Even if the county wants to put them back in schools, I doubt they will be able to find any cops who want to do it anymore.

[Anonymous]

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Seriously, that's your answer. He's lived that life as a child, possibly but in his bio's he says he has great parents. So, he really doesn't understand his constituents as he's never lived that life as an adult and had lots of opportunities given he is now a lawyer and worked with Obama. Lets be real. His bio is more for show than reality. He's done very well for himself, and good for him but he is really out of touch.

Families don't need a one time yearly grant as what happens when that grant is over? They need things like a Section 8 housing voucher that is life long. Child care assistance, utility assistance and much more. He's putting a bandaid and that never works. The county has had programs like that before, especially in housing (subsidy for a year) and then those folks are back where they stared after the year is up.

If I were Jawando's campaign manager, particularly if he wants to do anything beyond County Council, I'd advise him that the private school thing is a major weakness.

If he'd never sued MCPS, I could have spun it as "Black parents have unique concerns, and Mr. Jawando has deep personal experience as a public school parent." It would have been spin, but it would have shamed the white progressives into hushing up about it.

However, the lawsuit poisons the well from an optical standpoint. He sued to get his kids into the only immersion program that would provide a BCC feeder, even after his kids got a spot at another immersion program with a less prestigious feeder pattern. That's really toxic and will continue to haunt him from a political standpoint because now he's wide open from the left - he chose private when he was not guaranteed a W school.

Uber progressives won't care about this. They are as bad as Trumpsters who ignore his hypocrisy.

Campaign Manager PP here and the thing is that Jawando's base isn't uber progressives. He needs to capture the "BLM but also don't rezone my neighborhood" progressives and those folks are going to be sensitive to the hyprocrisy here. They are (largely) sending their kids to local public school because it aligns with their values (mostly immersion and magnet programs). They expect elected officials to do so as well.

Yes, humans are complicated, and those folks are also kind of hypocritical but this is politics. They are not running for office. He is, and his choices are going to be put under a microscope. Contrast Jawando with Riemer on this axis. Yes, Riemer gives off rich kid prep school vibes but his (Black) kids are in public schools and it goes a long way toward establishing his crediblity.

Having your kids in immersion and magnet is another form of self segregating, just in a more socially acceptable way.

Of course they are, but this isn't a battle for who is the least hypocritical - it's an election. Jawando gave up a significant advantage and opened himself up to totally justified criticism with the lawsuit followed by enrolling his kids in private school when he didn't get the W feeder he was gunning for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If people are against SRO's and increasing security in the high schools, then what do you recommend to be done given we've had multiple incidents on school property?

They think social workers will prevent it all. And I'm 100% for more social workers and mental health support. But it's not enough. It never has been.

[Anonymous]

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Seriously, that's your answer. He's lived that life as a child, possibly but in his bio's he says he has great parents. So, he really doesn't understand his constituents as he's never lived that life as an adult and had lots of opportunities given he is now a lawyer and worked with Obama. Lets be real. His bio is more for show than reality. He's done very well for himself, and good for him but he is really out of touch.

Families don't need a one time yearly grant as what happens when that grant is over? They need things like a Section 8 housing voucher that is life long. Child care assistance, utility assistance and much more. He's putting a bandaid and that never works. The county has had programs like that before, especially in housing (subsidy for a year) and then those folks are back where they stared after the year is up.

If I were Jawando's campaign manager, particularly if he wants to do anything beyond County Council, I'd advise him that the private school thing is a major weakness.

If he'd never sued MCPS, I could have spun it as "Black parents have unique concerns, and Mr. Jawando has deep personal experience as a public school parent." It would have been spin, but it would have shamed the white progressives into hushing up about it.

However, the lawsuit poisons the well from an optical standpoint. He sued to get his kids into the only immersion program that would provide a BCC feeder, even after his kids got a spot at another immersion program with a less prestigious feeder pattern. That's really toxic and will continue to haunt him from a political standpoint because now he's wide open from the left - he chose private when he was not guaranteed a W school.

Uber progressives won't care about this. They are as bad as Trumpsters who ignore his hypocrisy.

Campaign Manager PP here and the thing is that Jawando's base isn't uber progressives. He needs to capture the "BLM but also don't rezone my neighborhood" progressives and those folks are going to be sensitive to the hyprocrisy here. They are (largely) sending their kids to local public school because it aligns with their values (mostly immersion and magnet programs). They expect elected officials to do so as well.

Yes, humans are complicated, and those folks are also kind of hypocritical but this is politics. They are not running for office. He is, and his choices are going to be put under a microscope. Contrast Jawando with Riemer on this axis. Yes, Riemer gives off rich kid prep school vibes but his (Black) kids are in public schools and it goes a long way toward establishing his crediblity.

Having your kids in immersion and magnet is another form of self segregating, just in a more socially acceptable way.

Of course they are, but this isn't a battle for who is the least hypocritical - it's an election. Jawando gave up a significant advantage and opened himself up to totally justified criticism with the lawsuit followed by enrolling his kids in private school when he didn't get the W feeder he was gunning for.

My guess is he won't run again. He has a book deal, which is probably what led to buying that house.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Seriously, that's your answer. He's lived that life as a child, possibly but in his bio's he says he has great parents. So, he really doesn't understand his constituents as he's never lived that life as an adult and had lots of opportunities given he is now a lawyer and worked with Obama. Lets be real. His bio is more for show than reality. He's done very well for himself, and good for him but he is really out of touch.

Families don't need a one time yearly grant as what happens when that grant is over? They need things like a Section 8 housing voucher that is life long. Child care assistance, utility assistance and much more. He's putting a bandaid and that never works. The county has had programs like that before, especially in housing (subsidy for a year) and then those folks are back where they stared after the year is up.

If I were Jawando's campaign manager, particularly if he wants to do anything beyond County Council, I'd advise him that the private school thing is a major weakness.

If he'd never sued MCPS, I could have spun it as "Black parents have unique concerns, and Mr. Jawando has deep personal experience as a public school parent." It would have been spin, but it would have shamed the white progressives into hushing up about it.

However, the lawsuit poisons the well from an optical standpoint. He sued to get his kids into the only immersion program that would provide a BCC feeder, even after his kids got a spot at another immersion program with a less prestigious feeder pattern. That's really toxic and will continue to haunt him from a political standpoint because now he's wide open from the left - he chose private when he was not guaranteed a W school.

Uber progressives won't care about this. They are as bad as Trumpsters who ignore his hypocrisy.

Campaign Manager PP here and the thing is that Jawando's base isn't uber progressives. He needs to capture the "BLM but also don't rezone my neighborhood" progressives and those folks are going to be sensitive to the hyprocrisy here. They are (largely) sending their kids to local public school because it aligns with their values (mostly immersion and magnet programs). They expect elected officials to do so as well.

Yes, humans are complicated, and those folks are also kind of hypocritical but this is politics. They are not running for office. He is, and his choices are going to be put under a microscope. Contrast Jawando with Riemer on this axis. Yes, Riemer gives off rich kid prep school vibes but his (Black) kids are in public schools and it goes a long way toward establishing his crediblity.

Having your kids in immersion and magnet is another form of self segregating, just in a more socially acceptable way.

Of course they are, but this isn't a battle for who is the least hypocritical - it's an election. Jawando gave up a significant advantage and opened himself up to totally justified criticism with the lawsuit followed by enrolling his kids in private school when he didn't get the W feeder he was gunning for.

My guess is he won't run again. He has a book deal, which is probably what led to buying that house.

Jawando has dreams of being the next president.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Seriously, that's your answer. He's lived that life as a child, possibly but in his bio's he says he has great parents. So, he really doesn't understand his constituents as he's never lived that life as an adult and had lots of opportunities given he is now a lawyer and worked with Obama. Lets be real. His bio is more for show than reality. He's done very well for himself, and good for him but he is really out of touch.

Families don't need a one time yearly grant as what happens when that grant is over? They need things like a Section 8 housing voucher that is life long. Child care assistance, utility assistance and much more. He's putting a bandaid and that never works. The county has had programs like that before, especially in housing (subsidy for a year) and then those folks are back where they stared after the year is up.

If I were Jawando's campaign manager, particularly if he wants to do anything beyond County Council, I'd advise him that the private school thing is a major weakness.

If he'd never sued MCPS, I could have spun it as "Black parents have unique concerns, and Mr. Jawando has deep personal experience as a public school parent." It would have been spin, but it would have shamed the white progressives into hushing up about it.

However, the lawsuit poisons the well from an optical standpoint. He sued to get his kids into the only immersion program that would provide a BCC feeder, even after his kids got a spot at another immersion program with a less prestigious feeder pattern. That's really toxic and will continue to haunt him from a political standpoint because now he's wide open from the left - he chose private when he was not guaranteed a W school.

Uber progressives won't care about this. They are as bad as Trumpsters who ignore his hypocrisy.

Campaign Manager PP here and the thing is that Jawando's base isn't uber progressives. He needs to capture the "BLM but also don't rezone my neighborhood" progressives and those folks are going to be sensitive to the hyprocrisy here. They are (largely) sending their kids to local public school because it aligns with their values (mostly immersion and magnet programs). They expect elected officials to do so as well.

Yes, humans are complicated, and those folks are also kind of hypocritical but this is politics. They are not running for office. He is, and his choices are going to be put under a microscope. Contrast Jawando with Riemer on this axis. Yes, Riemer gives off rich kid prep school vibes but his (Black) kids are in public schools and it goes a long way toward establishing his crediblity.

Having your kids in immersion and magnet is another form of self segregating, just in a more socially acceptable way.

Of course they are, but this isn't a battle for who is the least hypocritical - it's an election. Jawando gave up a significant advantage and opened himself up to totally justified criticism with the lawsuit followed by enrolling his kids in private school when he didn't get the W feeder he was gunning for.

My guess is he won't run again. He has a book deal, which is probably what led to buying that house.

Jawando has dreams of being the next president.

Yes, he does. But he burned bridges in the Obama administration. And he hasn't made many local political friends, either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Seriously, that's your answer. He's lived that life as a child, possibly but in his bio's he says he has great parents. So, he really doesn't understand his constituents as he's never lived that life as an adult and had lots of opportunities given he is now a lawyer and worked with Obama. Lets be real. His bio is more for show than reality. He's done very well for himself, and good for him but he is really out of touch.

Families don't need a one time yearly grant as what happens when that grant is over? They need things like a Section 8 housing voucher that is life long. Child care assistance, utility assistance and much more. He's putting a bandaid and that never works. The county has had programs like that before, especially in housing (subsidy for a year) and then those folks are back where they stared after the year is up.

If I were Jawando's campaign manager, particularly if he wants to do anything beyond County Council, I'd advise him that the private school thing is a major weakness.

If he'd never sued MCPS, I could have spun it as "Black parents have unique concerns, and Mr. Jawando has deep personal experience as a public school parent." It would have been spin, but it would have shamed the white progressives into hushing up about it.

However, the lawsuit poisons the well from an optical standpoint. He sued to get his kids into the only immersion program that would provide a BCC feeder, even after his kids got a spot at another immersion program with a less prestigious feeder pattern. That's really toxic and will continue to haunt him from a political standpoint because now he's wide open from the left - he chose private when he was not guaranteed a W school.

Uber progressives won't care about this. They are as bad as Trumpsters who ignore his hypocrisy.

Campaign Manager PP here and the thing is that Jawando's base isn't uber progressives. He needs to capture the "BLM but also don't rezone my neighborhood" progressives and those folks are going to be sensitive to the hyprocrisy here. They are (largely) sending their kids to local public school because it aligns with their values (mostly immersion and magnet programs). They expect elected officials to do so as well.

Yes, humans are complicated, and those folks are also kind of hypocritical but this is politics. They are not running for office. He is, and his choices are going to be put under a microscope. Contrast Jawando with Riemer on this axis. Yes, Riemer gives off rich kid prep school vibes but his (Black) kids are in public schools and it goes a long way toward establishing his crediblity.

Having your kids in immersion and magnet is another form of self segregating, just in a more socially acceptable way.

Of course they are, but this isn't a battle for who is the least hypocritical - it's an election. Jawando gave up a significant advantage and opened himself up to totally justified criticism with the lawsuit followed by enrolling his kids in private school when he didn't get the W feeder he was gunning for.

My guess is he won't run again. He has a book deal, which is probably what led to buying that house.

I saw he had a book coming out but it looked pointless. Does he have a job?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We need smaller schools. We need educational communities not institutions. These schools are the size of small towns and yet this is where they spend most of their time. They need to be seen and known. Most teachers went into teaching to connect with children and yet there are so many kids they are wholly unable to do so.

It's easier to put SROs and mental health workers in the existing buildings than to reduce the number of students at schools.

Taking the easy way out is what got us in this mess. Pay now or pay later. Americans always choose pay later!

Then get ready to pay more in taxes. Jawando wants to spend more $$ on programs that don't have a proven track record.

I support SROs. Cops aren't perfect. We should definitely provide more training to cops on how to handle mental health crisis, but just because there are a few bad apples, I don't believe in throwing out the bunch. If that's how we are going to treat everything then we would have not government, no human race.

I still haven't heard from anti-SROs whether they would want the cops around if someone was trying to stab their kid.

Jawando will happily raise taxes as long as it's off set by a gift to lower income people to ensure they pay less taxes and more poor people who think violence is an answer to a problem are attracted to live next door to you.

What is sad is he isn't willing to live next to low income families or even send his kids to school with them. He is all about the show. What he is proposing is not a help to low income and its only a temporary solution to a long term problem.

He grew up in poverty in low income apartments near Blair. He doesn’t have to live there now to understand his constituents.

Well, as someone who grew up low income to parents who don't speak English, I can tell you that I want SROs in the schools. I bet a lot of other low income parents also would feel better if there were SROs in the schools protecting their kids. The Principals sure seem to think having SROs in schools is better than not having them. Maybe Jawando should listen to the people who interact with these kids everyday.

Then he should listen to me: DCC teacher AND parent. I grew up poor. I don’t want cops stationed in our schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If people are against SRO's and increasing security in the high schools, then what do you recommend to be done given we've had multiple incidents on school property?

They think social workers will prevent it all. And I'm 100% for more social workers and mental health support. But it's not enough. It never has been.

All the social workers and mental health support in the world will do nothing to stop gang violence, which I’m still 100% convinced this was.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Well, as someone who grew up low income to parents who don't speak English, I can tell you that I want SROs in the schools. I bet a lot of other low income parents also would feel better if there were SROs in the schools protecting their kids. The Principals sure seem to think having SROs in schools is better than not having them. Maybe Jawando should listen to the people who interact with these kids everyday.

You want SROs in [high] schools doing what? Protecting kids how?

how are the cops at Blair today protecting the kids? What are they doing? Do you think it was a waste of taxpayer $ to have those cops there today, tomorrow?

They didn’t “protect kids” somebody called them and they arrested the kids. It’s not some magical thing that it’s a school, it happens every day all over. People want a cop they call them they show up and arrest people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people are against SRO's and increasing security in the high schools, then what do you recommend to be done given we've had multiple incidents on school property?

They think social workers will prevent it all. And I'm 100% for more social workers and mental health support. But it's not enough. It never has been.

All the social workers and mental health support in the world will do nothing to stop gang violence, which I’m still 100% convinced this was.

What do you think they can do?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We need smaller schools. We need educational communities not institutions. These schools are the size of small towns and yet this is where they spend most of their time. They need to be seen and known. Most teachers went into teaching to connect with children and yet there are so many kids they are wholly unable to do so.

It's easier to put SROs and mental health workers in the existing buildings than to reduce the number of students at schools.

Taking the easy way out is what got us in this mess. Pay now or pay later. Americans always choose pay later!

Then get ready to pay more in taxes. Jawando wants to spend more $$ on programs that don't have a proven track record.

I support SROs. Cops aren't perfect. We should definitely provide more training to cops on how to handle mental health crisis, but just because there are a few bad apples, I don't believe in throwing out the bunch. If that's how we are going to treat everything then we would have not government, no human race.

I still haven't heard from anti-SROs whether they would want the cops around if someone was trying to stab their kid.

Jawando will happily raise taxes as long as it's off set by a gift to lower income people to ensure they pay less taxes and more poor people who think violence is an answer to a problem are attracted to live next door to you.

What is sad is he isn't willing to live next to low income families or even send his kids to school with them. He is all about the show. What he is proposing is not a help to low income and its only a temporary solution to a long term problem.

He grew up in poverty in low income apartments near Blair. He doesn’t have to live there now to understand his constituents.

Well, as someone who grew up low income to parents who don't speak English, I can tell you that I want SROs in the schools. I bet a lot of other low income parents also would feel better if there were SROs in the schools protecting their kids. The Principals sure seem to think having SROs in schools is better than not having them. Maybe Jawando should listen to the people who interact with these kids everyday.

Then he should listen to me: DCC teacher AND parent. I grew up poor. I don’t want cops stationed in our schools.

So, what do you suggest be done to protect students?