Lockdown at Blair?

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Anonymous wrote:We need smaller schools. We need educational communities not institutions. These schools are the size of small towns and yet this is where they spend most of their time. They need to be seen and known. Most teachers went into teaching to connect with children and yet there are so many kids they are wholly unable to do so.

It's easier to put SROs and mental health workers in the existing buildings than to reduce the number of students at schools.

Taking the easy way out is what got us in this mess. Pay now or pay later. Americans always choose pay later!

Then get ready to pay more in taxes. Jawando wants to spend more $$ on programs that don't have a proven track record.

I support SROs. Cops aren't perfect. We should definitely provide more training to cops on how to handle mental health crisis, but just because there are a few bad apples, I don't believe in throwing out the bunch. If that's how we are going to treat everything then we would have not government, no human race.

I still haven't heard from anti-SROs whether they would want the cops around if someone was trying to stab their kid.

Jawando will happily raise taxes as long as it's off set by a gift to lower income people to ensure they pay less taxes and more poor people who think violence is an answer to a problem are attracted to live next door to you.

What is sad is he isn't willing to live next to low income families or even send his kids to school with them. He is all about the show. What he is proposing is not a help to low income and its only a temporary solution to a long term problem.

He grew up in poverty in low income apartments near Blair. He doesn’t have to live there now to understand his constituents.

Well, as someone who grew up low income to parents who don't speak English, I can tell you that I want SROs in the schools. I bet a lot of other low income parents also would feel better if there were SROs in the schools protecting their kids. The Principals sure seem to think having SROs in schools is better than not having them. Maybe Jawando should listen to the people who interact with these kids everyday.

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Seriously, that's your answer. He's lived that life as a child, possibly but in his bio's he says he has great parents. So, he really doesn't understand his constituents as he's never lived that life as an adult and had lots of opportunities given he is now a lawyer and worked with Obama. Lets be real. His bio is more for show than reality. He's done very well for himself, and good for him but he is really out of touch.

Families don't need a one time yearly grant as what happens when that grant is over? They need things like a Section 8 housing voucher that is life long. Child care assistance, utility assistance and much more. He's putting a bandaid and that never works. The county has had programs like that before, especially in housing (subsidy for a year) and then those folks are back where they stared after the year is up.

If I were Jawando's campaign manager, particularly if he wants to do anything beyond County Council, I'd advise him that the private school thing is a major weakness.

If he'd never sued MCPS, I could have spun it as "Black parents have unique concerns, and Mr. Jawando has deep personal experience as a public school parent." It would have been spin, but it would have shamed the white progressives into hushing up about it.

However, the lawsuit poisons the well from an optical standpoint. He sued to get his kids into the only immersion program that would provide a BCC feeder, even after his kids got a spot at another immersion program with a less prestigious feeder pattern. That's really toxic and will continue to haunt him from a political standpoint because now he's wide open from the left - he chose private when he was not guaranteed a W school.

Uber progressives won't care about this. They are as bad as Trumpsters who ignore his hypocrisy.

[Anonymous]

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Seriously, that's your answer. He's lived that life as a child, possibly but in his bio's he says he has great parents. So, he really doesn't understand his constituents as he's never lived that life as an adult and had lots of opportunities given he is now a lawyer and worked with Obama. Lets be real. His bio is more for show than reality. He's done very well for himself, and good for him but he is really out of touch.

Families don't need a one time yearly grant as what happens when that grant is over? They need things like a Section 8 housing voucher that is life long. Child care assistance, utility assistance and much more. He's putting a bandaid and that never works. The county has had programs like that before, especially in housing (subsidy for a year) and then those folks are back where they stared after the year is up.

If I were Jawando's campaign manager, particularly if he wants to do anything beyond County Council, I'd advise him that the private school thing is a major weakness.

If he'd never sued MCPS, I could have spun it as "Black parents have unique concerns, and Mr. Jawando has deep personal experience as a public school parent." It would have been spin, but it would have shamed the white progressives into hushing up about it.

However, the lawsuit poisons the well from an optical standpoint. He sued to get his kids into the only immersion program that would provide a BCC feeder, even after his kids got a spot at another immersion program with a less prestigious feeder pattern. That's really toxic and will continue to haunt him from a political standpoint because now he's wide open from the left - he chose private when he was not guaranteed a W school.

Uber progressives won't care about this. They are as bad as Trumpsters who ignore his hypocrisy.

If by bad as, you mean try to help others as opposed to deceiving them sure...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Seriously, that's your answer. He's lived that life as a child, possibly but in his bio's he says he has great parents. So, he really doesn't understand his constituents as he's never lived that life as an adult and had lots of opportunities given he is now a lawyer and worked with Obama. Lets be real. His bio is more for show than reality. He's done very well for himself, and good for him but he is really out of touch.

Families don't need a one time yearly grant as what happens when that grant is over? They need things like a Section 8 housing voucher that is life long. Child care assistance, utility assistance and much more. He's putting a bandaid and that never works. The county has had programs like that before, especially in housing (subsidy for a year) and then those folks are back where they stared after the year is up.

If I were Jawando's campaign manager, particularly if he wants to do anything beyond County Council, I'd advise him that the private school thing is a major weakness.

If he'd never sued MCPS, I could have spun it as "Black parents have unique concerns, and Mr. Jawando has deep personal experience as a public school parent." It would have been spin, but it would have shamed the white progressives into hushing up about it.

However, the lawsuit poisons the well from an optical standpoint. He sued to get his kids into the only immersion program that would provide a BCC feeder, even after his kids got a spot at another immersion program with a less prestigious feeder pattern. That's really toxic and will continue to haunt him from a political standpoint because now he's wide open from the left - he chose private when he was not guaranteed a W school.

Uber progressives won't care about this. They are as bad as Trumpsters who ignore his hypocrisy.

If he bugs you that much, he must be great and definitely has my vote.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Seriously, that's your answer. He's lived that life as a child, possibly but in his bio's he says he has great parents. So, he really doesn't understand his constituents as he's never lived that life as an adult and had lots of opportunities given he is now a lawyer and worked with Obama. Lets be real. His bio is more for show than reality. He's done very well for himself, and good for him but he is really out of touch.

Families don't need a one time yearly grant as what happens when that grant is over? They need things like a Section 8 housing voucher that is life long. Child care assistance, utility assistance and much more. He's putting a bandaid and that never works. The county has had programs like that before, especially in housing (subsidy for a year) and then those folks are back where they stared after the year is up.

If I were Jawando's campaign manager, particularly if he wants to do anything beyond County Council, I'd advise him that the private school thing is a major weakness.

If he'd never sued MCPS, I could have spun it as "Black parents have unique concerns, and Mr. Jawando has deep personal experience as a public school parent." It would have been spin, but it would have shamed the white progressives into hushing up about it.

However, the lawsuit poisons the well from an optical standpoint. He sued to get his kids into the only immersion program that would provide a BCC feeder, even after his kids got a spot at another immersion program with a less prestigious feeder pattern. That's really toxic and will continue to haunt him from a political standpoint because now he's wide open from the left - he chose private when he was not guaranteed a W school.

Uber progressives won't care about this. They are as bad as Trumpsters who ignore his hypocrisy.

Campaign Manager PP here and the thing is that Jawando's base isn't uber progressives. He needs to capture the "BLM but also don't rezone my neighborhood" progressives and those folks are going to be sensitive to the hyprocrisy here. They are (largely) sending their kids to local public school because it aligns with their values (mostly immersion and magnet programs). They expect elected officials to do so as well.

Yes, humans are complicated, and those folks are also kind of hypocritical but this is politics. They are not running for office. He is, and his choices are going to be put under a microscope. Contrast Jawando with Riemer on this axis. Yes, Riemer gives off rich kid prep school vibes but his (Black) kids are in public schools and it goes a long way toward establishing his crediblity.

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Anonymous wrote:We need smaller schools. We need educational communities not institutions. These schools are the size of small towns and yet this is where they spend most of their time. They need to be seen and known. Most teachers went into teaching to connect with children and yet there are so many kids they are wholly unable to do so.

It's easier to put SROs and mental health workers in the existing buildings than to reduce the number of students at schools.

Taking the easy way out is what got us in this mess. Pay now or pay later. Americans always choose pay later!

Then get ready to pay more in taxes. Jawando wants to spend more $$ on programs that don't have a proven track record.

I support SROs. Cops aren't perfect. We should definitely provide more training to cops on how to handle mental health crisis, but just because there are a few bad apples, I don't believe in throwing out the bunch. If that's how we are going to treat everything then we would have not government, no human race.

I still haven't heard from anti-SROs whether they would want the cops around if someone was trying to stab their kid.

Jawando will happily raise taxes as long as it's off set by a gift to lower income people to ensure they pay less taxes and more poor people who think violence is an answer to a problem are attracted to live next door to you.

What is sad is he isn't willing to live next to low income families or even send his kids to school with them. He is all about the show. What he is proposing is not a help to low income and its only a temporary solution to a long term problem.

He grew up in poverty in low income apartments near Blair. He doesn’t have to live there now to understand his constituents.

Well, as someone who grew up low income to parents who don't speak English, I can tell you that I want SROs in the schools. I bet a lot of other low income parents also would feel better if there were SROs in the schools protecting their kids. The Principals sure seem to think having SROs in schools is better than not having them. Maybe Jawando should listen to the people who interact with these kids everyday.

+1 Nicely said.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you want a police officer patrolling your street and your street only every day? What exactly would be their role when no crimes are being committed? I am perfectly happy to be able to call the police when they are needed, I don't want them here proactively, that's a waste of taxpayer dollars and needless police surveillance of my life.

Spoken like someone who's never actually tried to.call the police.
Unless you're actively being assaulted, good luck getting a response. That, too, is a result of urbanization.
In the suburbs the police will come out when any law is being broken. That's already gone and the criminals know it.

Maybe someone can explain what's "urban" about the area around Blair HS? It's suburban single-family-detached houses, suburban strip shopping centers, and suburban arterial roads.

Lots of apartment buildings too.

No, there aren't. Look at the map. The only apartments in the area are what's now called "The Oaks at Four Corners," which is affordable housing for people aged 62+, and it's all of 3 stories high. And then there are a few townhouses on Kinsman View Circle. It's all R-60 zoning.

So, again, what's "urban" about it? R-60 zoning isn't suburban enough for the PP?

http://www.montgomeryplanning.org/info/documents/R60_000.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Seriously, that's your answer. He's lived that life as a child, possibly but in his bio's he says he has great parents. So, he really doesn't understand his constituents as he's never lived that life as an adult and had lots of opportunities given he is now a lawyer and worked with Obama. Lets be real. His bio is more for show than reality. He's done very well for himself, and good for him but he is really out of touch.

Families don't need a one time yearly grant as what happens when that grant is over? They need things like a Section 8 housing voucher that is life long. Child care assistance, utility assistance and much more. He's putting a bandaid and that never works. The county has had programs like that before, especially in housing (subsidy for a year) and then those folks are back where they stared after the year is up.

If I were Jawando's campaign manager, particularly if he wants to do anything beyond County Council, I'd advise him that the private school thing is a major weakness.

If he'd never sued MCPS, I could have spun it as "Black parents have unique concerns, and Mr. Jawando has deep personal experience as a public school parent." It would have been spin, but it would have shamed the white progressives into hushing up about it.

However, the lawsuit poisons the well from an optical standpoint. He sued to get his kids into the only immersion program that would provide a BCC feeder, even after his kids got a spot at another immersion program with a less prestigious feeder pattern. That's really toxic and will continue to haunt him from a political standpoint because now he's wide open from the left - he chose private when he was not guaranteed a W school.

Uber progressives won't care about this. They are as bad as Trumpsters who ignore his hypocrisy.

Campaign Manager PP here and the thing is that Jawando's base isn't uber progressives. He needs to capture the "BLM but also don't rezone my neighborhood" progressives and those folks are going to be sensitive to the hyprocrisy here. They are (largely) sending their kids to local public school because it aligns with their values (mostly immersion and magnet programs). They expect elected officials to do so as well.

Yes, humans are complicated, and those folks are also kind of hypocritical but this is politics. They are not running for office. He is, and his choices are going to be put under a microscope. Contrast Jawando with Riemer on this axis. Yes, Riemer gives off rich kid prep school vibes but his (Black) kids are in public schools and it goes a long way toward establishing his crediblity.

Having your kids in immersion and magnet is another form of self segregating, just in a more socially acceptable way.

[Anonymous]

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Well, as someone who grew up low income to parents who don't speak English, I can tell you that I want SROs in the schools. I bet a lot of other low income parents also would feel better if there were SROs in the schools protecting their kids. The Principals sure seem to think having SROs in schools is better than not having them. Maybe Jawando should listen to the people who interact with these kids everyday.

You want SROs in [high] schools doing what? Protecting kids how?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you want a police officer patrolling your street and your street only every day? What exactly would be their role when no crimes are being committed? I am perfectly happy to be able to call the police when they are needed, I don't want them here proactively, that's a waste of taxpayer dollars and needless police surveillance of my life.

You want cops sitting in your house just waiting ? No it’s idiotic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If people are against SRO's and increasing security in the high schools, then what do you recommend to be done given we've had multiple incidents on school property?

Hire psychologists. Put them through the police academy.

Don’t hire someone with two years at a community college And pop them in the middle of a school with little to no training.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Well, as someone who grew up low income to parents who don't speak English, I can tell you that I want SROs in the schools. I bet a lot of other low income parents also would feel better if there were SROs in the schools protecting their kids. The Principals sure seem to think having SROs in schools is better than not having them. Maybe Jawando should listen to the people who interact with these kids everyday.

You want SROs in [high] schools doing what? Protecting kids how?

As a former Einstein parent, I have nothing but praise for the SRO who last served there. He got to know the students on a daily basis. He played the saxophone in the jazz band. He accompanied students on a multi-day trip to NYC. He visited families and provided alarm clocks to students who had trouble getting to school on time. I felt safer knowing that he was on campus, ready to intervene when needed.

For those saying that school still has security, it just doesn't compare. Your grandmother could be a security officer in MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Seriously, that's your answer. He's lived that life as a child, possibly but in his bio's he says he has great parents. So, he really doesn't understand his constituents as he's never lived that life as an adult and had lots of opportunities given he is now a lawyer and worked with Obama. Lets be real. His bio is more for show than reality. He's done very well for himself, and good for him but he is really out of touch.

Families don't need a one time yearly grant as what happens when that grant is over? They need things like a Section 8 housing voucher that is life long. Child care assistance, utility assistance and much more. He's putting a bandaid and that never works. The county has had programs like that before, especially in housing (subsidy for a year) and then those folks are back where they stared after the year is up.

If I were Jawando's campaign manager, particularly if he wants to do anything beyond County Council, I'd advise him that the private school thing is a major weakness.

If he'd never sued MCPS, I could have spun it as "Black parents have unique concerns, and Mr. Jawando has deep personal experience as a public school parent." It would have been spin, but it would have shamed the white progressives into hushing up about it.

However, the lawsuit poisons the well from an optical standpoint. He sued to get his kids into the only immersion program that would provide a BCC feeder, even after his kids got a spot at another immersion program with a less prestigious feeder pattern. That's really toxic and will continue to haunt him from a political standpoint because now he's wide open from the left - he chose private when he was not guaranteed a W school.

Uber progressives won't care about this. They are as bad as Trumpsters who ignore his hypocrisy.

If he bugs you that much, he must be great and definitely has my vote.

Yep, you are just like Trumpsters, just on the opposite end of the spectrum. That's what Trumpsters say, you know ... "vote for Trump to own the libs".

[Anonymous]

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Well, as someone who grew up low income to parents who don't speak English, I can tell you that I want SROs in the schools. I bet a lot of other low income parents also would feel better if there were SROs in the schools protecting their kids. The Principals sure seem to think having SROs in schools is better than not having them. Maybe Jawando should listen to the people who interact with these kids everyday.

You want SROs in [high] schools doing what? Protecting kids how?

As a former Einstein parent, I have nothing but praise for the SRO who last served there. He got to know the students on a daily basis. He played the saxophone in the jazz band. He accompanied students on a multi-day trip to NYC. He visited families and provided alarm clocks to students who had trouble getting to school on time. I felt safer knowing that he was on campus, ready to intervene when needed.

For those saying that school still has security, it just doesn't compare. Your grandmother could be a security officer in MCPS.

+1 these are the stories that I hear about SROs. Are there bad ones? Sure. Just as there are bad teachers, bad parents, bad students. But SROs do more good than harm, and that is why Principals want them in the schools.

It's such a shame.. the very kids that the anti-SROs want to help are the ones that need SROs the most, especially black male SROs who could be good role models for the black boys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Well, as someone who grew up low income to parents who don't speak English, I can tell you that I want SROs in the schools. I bet a lot of other low income parents also would feel better if there were SROs in the schools protecting their kids. The Principals sure seem to think having SROs in schools is better than not having them. Maybe Jawando should listen to the people who interact with these kids everyday.

You want SROs in [high] schools doing what? Protecting kids how?

how are the cops at Blair today protecting the kids? What are they doing? Do you think it was a waste of taxpayer $ to have those cops there today, tomorrow?