Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Anonymous wrote:Confused about the weight discussion. If someone has back problems, I’d imagine a health professional might tell them they can’t lift above a specific amount. Am I wrong? I’m actually asking here. In which case it sounds reasonable to find out what someone actually weighs. It’s not like they’d tell someone they can’t lift someone who is fat, and Justin is asking her trainer, “Hey, is Blake actually fat?”


To me this is a great example of how Baldoni and Wayfarer just ran a really unprofessional set and seemed to struggle with handling even basic communication with Lively and her team. The entire reason that people like this have teams of professionals around them is to make it easier to do stuff like this. If he has been told he can't live above a certain amount, he informs the stunt coordinator who can professionally investigate whether the lift can be done safely. Without playing telephone on the subject of Lively's weight. It was very unprofessional for Baldoni to try to make an end run around a normal, professional way of handling that by asking Blake's personal trainer what she weighs. So unprofessional that I get why Lively felt like he was just fishing around for personal info about him. Especially if he and Heath regularly engaged in this kind of unprofessional communication.

And yes, being *this* unprofessional on a film set could result in a sexual harassment claim or hostile work environment. Why do you think most corporate workplaces have Human Resources divisions and a lot of formal policies about how communication happens and how conflicts are resolved? Because if you don't, it is very easy for things to go sideways. Professionalism is your best guard against employment claims of all kinds, and Wayfarer appears to have been a sloppy, disorganized, and unprofessional outfit on a major motion picture with a number of famous actors involved. They were playing with fire.

Stuff like this is why I'm unsurprised that other members of the cast have sided vocally with Lively and collaborated with her to "freeze him out" at the premiere. Perhaps she has the most actionable claims because she interacted with Baldoni so much more as the star of the movie, but if this is how Baldoni was handling matters on set, all the actors felt it and noticed. Especially the industry veterans who have worked on major studio films (not just smaller indie films) and know what industry standards look like.

This is why I personally think Baldoni and Wayfarer brought this on themselves. This movie was a big step up for Wayfarer in terms of budget, distribution, and commercial visibility, with a fairly big name cast and based on a very popular novel. But I think they were running things pretty much the same as Baldoni ran the small productions on the couple little indie films he'd made previously. That's their screw up. Everything flowed from that. Baldoni and Heath knew the set had been a $hitshow and that Lively (and likely other cast and crew) might spill the beans on it later, and that's what led Baldoni to hire the PR firm to try and undermine her in the press, and that led to her complaint and where we are at now. But it starts with Baldoni and Heath failing at their job and running an unprofessional set.

As someone who has worked for a really unprofessional company where sexual harassment DID happen in large part because management failed to set a tone of professionalism and appropriate communication, I see all the red flags for that here as well.


I don’t see that at all. I see nothing unprofessional about Baldoni consulting with his trainer about this. Remember that her accusation is that this was fat shaming and I guess an example of gender discrimination or sexual harassment (unclear). When literally all he did was ask what her weight was. Blake’s position seems to be that ANY mention of her weight is per se inappropriate. Which is clearly untenable as he had a legitimate reason to know. So really this dumb episode serves to demonstrate Blake’s paranoia and distorted thought.


Totally agree. What about work place safety? There are ways to lift safely or not

And someone on this thread is extremely overly sensitive about their weight and this personal to them.


It’s all personal to her, which is why we get so many ranting illogical posts on this thread.


That was my thought as well. To this woman, nothing is more horrifying than talking about weight because she appears to have issues in that area, even destroying a man’s reputation and livelihood—a man with a wife and family to support.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Blake shouldn’t have made him hire a trainer? You can go back to his Instagram when they followed each other before shooting started. He had a picture of him exercising. She actually shamed him and said “ try doing that eight months pregnant”.

See how easy it is to twist things? See how easy it was to say the she probably should’ve maintain more professional boundaries?

Ridiculous.


If he felt shamed by that I’m sure it would have been in his 179 page complaint.


Missed the whole point. A reasonable person wouldn’t have been shamed by that. He probably didn’t think a thing of it because he’s a rational . She is taking normal, reasonable interactions, and is demonstrating that she is way over sensitive to them. To the point where she’s blackballing someone from an industry and taking over this movie and the next one from him.


I am a normal, reasonable person. If my colleague asked my trainer how much I weight behind my back, I would be pissed. That is not appropriate.


Is your colleague an actor who is supposed to physically lift you as part of your job? All of these comparisons to white collar workplaces are obviously totally off. If BL wanted that kind of workplace she should have gone into accounting.


I've had jobs where people had to lift me before (I was a dancer). I would be very annoyed if someone tried to handle a concern about a lift by going behind my back to my trainer to ask about my weight. That's not how you do this. First of all, if you are worried about doing a lift, you talk to the director/choreographer about your concerns. And likely a rehearsal would be scheduled to practice the lift with an eye towards making it safe for all involved. You have professionals on hand during the rehearsal to help you prep your body for the lift and avoid injury. It's about your limitations, not the other person's weight. Everyone stays professional and you don't sit around saying "oh no, do you think she's too big for me to lift??" That would be so passive aggressive and tacky.


You seem very sensitive but even if it were tacky, it’s not sexual harassment or anything close to it


I'm not actually sensitive about my weight at all and I've also been the person doing the lifting, including lifting people who are bigger than I am. I also have chronic back issues. There are professional ways to handle this issue.

And yes, if someone did this while also doing the other things Baldoni is accused of, I think that would constitute sexual harassment. On its own it would merely be tacky/annoying. But Lively's complaint is not merely alleging Baldoni sexually harassed her by asking her trainer about her weight. It's of a piece with a bunch of behaviors that taken together, may constitute harassment.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Blake shouldn’t have made him hire a trainer? You can go back to his Instagram when they followed each other before shooting started. He had a picture of him exercising. She actually shamed him and said “ try doing that eight months pregnant”.

See how easy it is to twist things? See how easy it was to say the she probably should’ve maintain more professional boundaries?

Ridiculous.


If he felt shamed by that I’m sure it would have been in his 179 page complaint.


Missed the whole point. A reasonable person wouldn’t have been shamed by that. He probably didn’t think a thing of it because he’s a rational . She is taking normal, reasonable interactions, and is demonstrating that she is way over sensitive to them. To the point where she’s blackballing someone from an industry and taking over this movie and the next one from him.


I am a normal, reasonable person. If my colleague asked my trainer how much I weight behind my back, I would be pissed. That is not appropriate.


Is your colleague an actor who is supposed to physically lift you as part of your job? All of these comparisons to white collar workplaces are obviously totally off. If BL wanted that kind of workplace she should have gone into accounting.


I've had jobs where people had to lift me before (I was a dancer). I would be very annoyed if someone tried to handle a concern about a lift by going behind my back to my trainer to ask about my weight. That's not how you do this. First of all, if you are worried about doing a lift, you talk to the director/choreographer about your concerns. And likely a rehearsal would be scheduled to practice the lift with an eye towards making it safe for all involved. You have professionals on hand during the rehearsal to help you prep your body for the lift and avoid injury. It's about your limitations, not the other person's weight. Everyone stays professional and you don't sit around saying "oh no, do you think she's too big for me to lift??" That would be so passive aggressive and tacky.


You seem very sensitive but even if it were tacky, it’s not sexual harassment or anything close to it


I'm not actually sensitive about my weight at all and I've also been the person doing the lifting, including lifting people who are bigger than I am. I also have chronic back issues. There are professional ways to handle this issue.

And yes, if someone did this while also doing the other things Baldoni is accused of, I think that would constitute sexual harassment. On its own it would merely be tacky/annoying. But Lively's complaint is not merely alleging Baldoni sexually harassed her by asking her trainer about her weight. It's of a piece with a bunch of behaviors that taken together, may constitute harassment.


Wasn’t the video a piece of her allegations though? Why is she trying to gag the lawyer if the video proves her claims?
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Anonymous wrote:I’m not in the industry, but I would love if someone with actual experience chimed in. I doubt talking about appearance, including weight is off limits for a movie. I mean give me a break. Actors are selling an aesthetic. I’m sure producers make demands about physical appearance all the time.


Agree. Google any actress who’s been in the industry for more than 10 years and she has a story to tell about being told to lose weight. Fit, thin women like Anne Hathaway and Jennifer Lawrence. These stories are a dime a dozen.

But I see no evidence that Blake was fat shamed. All I’ve seen is that he asked her trainer her weight due to a concern about lifting her, I’ve not seen any documentation or even specifics from her that he or anyone involved in the production asked her or told her to lose weight or criticized her about her weight. All I’ve seen is that Ryan berated him for fat shaming her. But if the incident is questions is him asking her trainer her weight, I don’t see how that is fat shaming.


To be fair, and I’m someone who thinks Blake exaggerating a lot of things, Blake’s complaint does say this, per E News.

“In one particular instance described in the documents, Blake alleged that the Jane the Virgin star offered to connect her with an expert on probiotics as a “gift” when she caught strep throat. However, upon filling out the privacy forms, the Gossip Girl alum—who had welcomed her and Ryan Reynolds’ fourth baby, son Olin, a few months before filming the movie—realized the expert was actually a weight loss specialist and in her complained she likened the experience to body shaming.”

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Anonymous wrote:Confused about the weight discussion. If someone has back problems, I’d imagine a health professional might tell them they can’t lift above a specific amount. Am I wrong? I’m actually asking here. In which case it sounds reasonable to find out what someone actually weighs. It’s not like they’d tell someone they can’t lift someone who is fat, and Justin is asking her trainer, “Hey, is Blake actually fat?”


To me this is a great example of how Baldoni and Wayfarer just ran a really unprofessional set and seemed to struggle with handling even basic communication with Lively and her team. The entire reason that people like this have teams of professionals around them is to make it easier to do stuff like this. If he has been told he can't live above a certain amount, he informs the stunt coordinator who can professionally investigate whether the lift can be done safely. Without playing telephone on the subject of Lively's weight. It was very unprofessional for Baldoni to try to make an end run around a normal, professional way of handling that by asking Blake's personal trainer what she weighs. So unprofessional that I get why Lively felt like he was just fishing around for personal info about him. Especially if he and Heath regularly engaged in this kind of unprofessional communication.

And yes, being *this* unprofessional on a film set could result in a sexual harassment claim or hostile work environment. Why do you think most corporate workplaces have Human Resources divisions and a lot of formal policies about how communication happens and how conflicts are resolved? Because if you don't, it is very easy for things to go sideways. Professionalism is your best guard against employment claims of all kinds, and Wayfarer appears to have been a sloppy, disorganized, and unprofessional outfit on a major motion picture with a number of famous actors involved. They were playing with fire.

Stuff like this is why I'm unsurprised that other members of the cast have sided vocally with Lively and collaborated with her to "freeze him out" at the premiere. Perhaps she has the most actionable claims because she interacted with Baldoni so much more as the star of the movie, but if this is how Baldoni was handling matters on set, all the actors felt it and noticed. Especially the industry veterans who have worked on major studio films (not just smaller indie films) and know what industry standards look like.

This is why I personally think Baldoni and Wayfarer brought this on themselves. This movie was a big step up for Wayfarer in terms of budget, distribution, and commercial visibility, with a fairly big name cast and based on a very popular novel. But I think they were running things pretty much the same as Baldoni ran the small productions on the couple little indie films he'd made previously. That's their screw up. Everything flowed from that. Baldoni and Heath knew the set had been a $hitshow and that Lively (and likely other cast and crew) might spill the beans on it later, and that's what led Baldoni to hire the PR firm to try and undermine her in the press, and that led to her complaint and where we are at now. But it starts with Baldoni and Heath failing at their job and running an unprofessional set.

As someone who has worked for a really unprofessional company where sexual harassment DID happen in large part because management failed to set a tone of professionalism and appropriate communication, I see all the red flags for that here as well.


I don’t see that at all. I see nothing unprofessional about Baldoni consulting with his trainer about this. Remember that her accusation is that this was fat shaming and I guess an example of gender discrimination or sexual harassment (unclear). When literally all he did was ask what her weight was. Blake’s position seems to be that ANY mention of her weight is per se inappropriate. Which is clearly untenable as he had a legitimate reason to know. So really this dumb episode serves to demonstrate Blake’s paranoia and distorted thought.


Totally agree. What about work place safety? There are ways to lift safely or not

And someone on this thread is extremely overly sensitive about their weight and this personal to them.


It’s all personal to her, which is why we get so many ranting illogical posts on this thread.


That was my thought as well. To this woman, nothing is more horrifying than talking about weight because she appears to have issues in that area, even destroying a man’s reputation and livelihood—a man with a wife and family to support.


With good reason b/c her coworkers are actively going behind her back to discuss her weight. Weird that people somehow thought this wouldn't look like harassment.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m not in the industry, but I would love if someone with actual experience chimed in. I doubt talking about appearance, including weight is off limits for a movie. I mean give me a break. Actors are selling an aesthetic. I’m sure producers make demands about physical appearance all the time.


Agree. Google any actress who’s been in the industry for more than 10 years and she has a story to tell about being told to lose weight. Fit, thin women like Anne Hathaway and Jennifer Lawrence. These stories are a dime a dozen.

But I see no evidence that Blake was fat shamed. All I’ve seen is that he asked her trainer her weight due to a concern about lifting her, I’ve not seen any documentation or even specifics from her that he or anyone involved in the production asked her or told her to lose weight or criticized her about her weight. All I’ve seen is that Ryan berated him for fat shaming her. But if the incident is questions is him asking her trainer her weight, I don’t see how that is fat shaming.


To be fair, and I’m someone who thinks Blake exaggerating a lot of things, Blake’s complaint does say this, per E News.

“In one particular instance described in the documents, Blake alleged that the Jane the Virgin star offered to connect her with an expert on probiotics as a “gift” when she caught strep throat. However, upon filling out the privacy forms, the Gossip Girl alum—who had welcomed her and Ryan Reynolds’ fourth baby, son Olin, a few months before filming the movie—realized the expert was actually a weight loss specialist and in her complained she likened the experience to body shaming.”



Another example of her allegation making no sense. He gave her the person’s contact info for probiotics for strep. He didn’t tell her to make an appoint,ent for weight loss,
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Anonymous wrote:Confused about the weight discussion. If someone has back problems, I’d imagine a health professional might tell them they can’t lift above a specific amount. Am I wrong? I’m actually asking here. In which case it sounds reasonable to find out what someone actually weighs. It’s not like they’d tell someone they can’t lift someone who is fat, and Justin is asking her trainer, “Hey, is Blake actually fat?”


To me this is a great example of how Baldoni and Wayfarer just ran a really unprofessional set and seemed to struggle with handling even basic communication with Lively and her team. The entire reason that people like this have teams of professionals around them is to make it easier to do stuff like this. If he has been told he can't live above a certain amount, he informs the stunt coordinator who can professionally investigate whether the lift can be done safely. Without playing telephone on the subject of Lively's weight. It was very unprofessional for Baldoni to try to make an end run around a normal, professional way of handling that by asking Blake's personal trainer what she weighs. So unprofessional that I get why Lively felt like he was just fishing around for personal info about him. Especially if he and Heath regularly engaged in this kind of unprofessional communication.

And yes, being *this* unprofessional on a film set could result in a sexual harassment claim or hostile work environment. Why do you think most corporate workplaces have Human Resources divisions and a lot of formal policies about how communication happens and how conflicts are resolved? Because if you don't, it is very easy for things to go sideways. Professionalism is your best guard against employment claims of all kinds, and Wayfarer appears to have been a sloppy, disorganized, and unprofessional outfit on a major motion picture with a number of famous actors involved. They were playing with fire.

Stuff like this is why I'm unsurprised that other members of the cast have sided vocally with Lively and collaborated with her to "freeze him out" at the premiere. Perhaps she has the most actionable claims because she interacted with Baldoni so much more as the star of the movie, but if this is how Baldoni was handling matters on set, all the actors felt it and noticed. Especially the industry veterans who have worked on major studio films (not just smaller indie films) and know what industry standards look like.

This is why I personally think Baldoni and Wayfarer brought this on themselves. This movie was a big step up for Wayfarer in terms of budget, distribution, and commercial visibility, with a fairly big name cast and based on a very popular novel. But I think they were running things pretty much the same as Baldoni ran the small productions on the couple little indie films he'd made previously. That's their screw up. Everything flowed from that. Baldoni and Heath knew the set had been a $hitshow and that Lively (and likely other cast and crew) might spill the beans on it later, and that's what led Baldoni to hire the PR firm to try and undermine her in the press, and that led to her complaint and where we are at now. But it starts with Baldoni and Heath failing at their job and running an unprofessional set.

As someone who has worked for a really unprofessional company where sexual harassment DID happen in large part because management failed to set a tone of professionalism and appropriate communication, I see all the red flags for that here as well.


I don’t see that at all. I see nothing unprofessional about Baldoni consulting with his trainer about this. Remember that her accusation is that this was fat shaming and I guess an example of gender discrimination or sexual harassment (unclear). When literally all he did was ask what her weight was. Blake’s position seems to be that ANY mention of her weight is per se inappropriate. Which is clearly untenable as he had a legitimate reason to know. So really this dumb episode serves to demonstrate Blake’s paranoia and distorted thought.


Totally agree. What about work place safety? There are ways to lift safely or not

And someone on this thread is extremely overly sensitive about their weight and this personal to them.


It’s all personal to her, which is why we get so many ranting illogical posts on this thread.


That was my thought as well. To this woman, nothing is more horrifying than talking about weight because she appears to have issues in that area, even destroying a man’s reputation and livelihood—a man with a wife and family to support.


With good reason b/c her coworkers are actively going behind her back to discuss her weight. Weird that people somehow thought this wouldn't look like harassment.



You are approaching troll level today with your histrionics and refusal to stick to facts.
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Anonymous wrote:Confused about the weight discussion. If someone has back problems, I’d imagine a health professional might tell them they can’t lift above a specific amount. Am I wrong? I’m actually asking here. In which case it sounds reasonable to find out what someone actually weighs. It’s not like they’d tell someone they can’t lift someone who is fat, and Justin is asking her trainer, “Hey, is Blake actually fat?”


To me this is a great example of how Baldoni and Wayfarer just ran a really unprofessional set and seemed to struggle with handling even basic communication with Lively and her team. The entire reason that people like this have teams of professionals around them is to make it easier to do stuff like this. If he has been told he can't live above a certain amount, he informs the stunt coordinator who can professionally investigate whether the lift can be done safely. Without playing telephone on the subject of Lively's weight. It was very unprofessional for Baldoni to try to make an end run around a normal, professional way of handling that by asking Blake's personal trainer what she weighs. So unprofessional that I get why Lively felt like he was just fishing around for personal info about him. Especially if he and Heath regularly engaged in this kind of unprofessional communication.

And yes, being *this* unprofessional on a film set could result in a sexual harassment claim or hostile work environment. Why do you think most corporate workplaces have Human Resources divisions and a lot of formal policies about how communication happens and how conflicts are resolved? Because if you don't, it is very easy for things to go sideways. Professionalism is your best guard against employment claims of all kinds, and Wayfarer appears to have been a sloppy, disorganized, and unprofessional outfit on a major motion picture with a number of famous actors involved. They were playing with fire.

Stuff like this is why I'm unsurprised that other members of the cast have sided vocally with Lively and collaborated with her to "freeze him out" at the premiere. Perhaps she has the most actionable claims because she interacted with Baldoni so much more as the star of the movie, but if this is how Baldoni was handling matters on set, all the actors felt it and noticed. Especially the industry veterans who have worked on major studio films (not just smaller indie films) and know what industry standards look like.

This is why I personally think Baldoni and Wayfarer brought this on themselves. This movie was a big step up for Wayfarer in terms of budget, distribution, and commercial visibility, with a fairly big name cast and based on a very popular novel. But I think they were running things pretty much the same as Baldoni ran the small productions on the couple little indie films he'd made previously. That's their screw up. Everything flowed from that. Baldoni and Heath knew the set had been a $hitshow and that Lively (and likely other cast and crew) might spill the beans on it later, and that's what led Baldoni to hire the PR firm to try and undermine her in the press, and that led to her complaint and where we are at now. But it starts with Baldoni and Heath failing at their job and running an unprofessional set.

As someone who has worked for a really unprofessional company where sexual harassment DID happen in large part because management failed to set a tone of professionalism and appropriate communication, I see all the red flags for that here as well.


I don’t see that at all. I see nothing unprofessional about Baldoni consulting with his trainer about this. Remember that her accusation is that this was fat shaming and I guess an example of gender discrimination or sexual harassment (unclear). When literally all he did was ask what her weight was. Blake’s position seems to be that ANY mention of her weight is per se inappropriate. Which is clearly untenable as he had a legitimate reason to know. So really this dumb episode serves to demonstrate Blake’s paranoia and distorted thought.


Totally agree. What about work place safety? There are ways to lift safely or not

And someone on this thread is extremely overly sensitive about their weight and this personal to them.


It’s all personal to her, which is why we get so many ranting illogical posts on this thread.


That was my thought as well. To this woman, nothing is more horrifying than talking about weight because she appears to have issues in that area, even destroying a man’s reputation and livelihood—a man with a wife and family to support.


With good reason b/c her coworkers are actively going behind her back to discuss her weight. Weird that people somehow thought this wouldn't look like harassment.



You are approaching troll level today with your histrionics and refusal to stick to facts.


If you have nothing else to say feel free to move along.
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Right. And also physicality is part of an actor’s role and job requirement.
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Like you can’t be playing Cindy Crawford in a movie and then gain 100 pounds during production. Give me a break
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But then he knows the weight of this famous person, and, if he wants to be a jerk about it later, he can laugh about it with his friends, or float out to the public how much she weighed after her baby etc. I think it's a touchy subject in Hollywood, and i don't think famous actresses just want their weight to be public knowledge. While he seemed to have a reason for the info, that reason could also just be a pretext -- and as others have said, he could easily solve the back problem without knowing the precise weight.

And for that matter, why didn't he just tell the trainer "With my back issues I can handle weights of up to 170 pounds, can you help me with strategies for whatever weight we have here?" rather than asking for her weight? Why did he think it was fine to come to the table with absolutely nothing? Seems like he didn't know his own weight lifting limits and was just fishing for personal info, which is gross.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m not in the industry, but I would love if someone with actual experience chimed in. I doubt talking about appearance, including weight is off limits for a movie. I mean give me a break. Actors are selling an aesthetic. I’m sure producers make demands about physical appearance all the time.


Agree. Google any actress who’s been in the industry for more than 10 years and she has a story to tell about being told to lose weight. Fit, thin women like Anne Hathaway and Jennifer Lawrence. These stories are a dime a dozen.

But I see no evidence that Blake was fat shamed. All I’ve seen is that he asked her trainer her weight due to a concern about lifting her, I’ve not seen any documentation or even specifics from her that he or anyone involved in the production asked her or told her to lose weight or criticized her about her weight. All I’ve seen is that Ryan berated him for fat shaming her. But if the incident is questions is him asking her trainer her weight, I don’t see how that is fat shaming.


Lively's complaint does not only allege that he asked her trainer about Lively's weight. It also alleges that when Lively caught strep throat, Baldoni connected her with an expert that he claimed would help her combat illness. However it turned out this person was a weight-loss specialist. Combined with his comments to her trainer (which of course got back to her since it was *her* trainer), Baldoni appeared to be implying Lively needed to lose weight.
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Anonymous wrote:Like you can’t be playing Cindy Crawford in a movie and then gain 100 pounds during production. Give me a break


WTF are you talking about? Aren't we supposed to be "sticking to the facts"?
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I hope a lawyer would clarify whether asking about a woman’s weight is in fact sexual harassment—not the poster who is obsessed with fat shaming.
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Oh, WAIT, is he a MAN with a WIFE and a FAMILY to support??? Nevermind, STAND BACK EVERYBODY!
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