Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not in the industry, but I would love if someone with actual experience chimed in. I doubt talking about appearance, including weight is off limits for a movie. I mean give me a break. Actors are selling an aesthetic. I’m sure producers make demands about physical appearance all the time.

Agree. Google any actress who’s been in the industry for more than 10 years and she has a story to tell about being told to lose weight. Fit, thin women like Anne Hathaway and Jennifer Lawrence. These stories are a dime a dozen.

But I see no evidence that Blake was fat shamed. All I’ve seen is that he asked her trainer her weight due to a concern about lifting her, I’ve not seen any documentation or even specifics from her that he or anyone involved in the production asked her or told her to lose weight or criticized her about her weight. All I’ve seen is that Ryan berated him for fat shaming her. But if the incident is questions is him asking her trainer her weight, I don’t see how that is fat shaming.

To be fair, and I’m someone who thinks Blake exaggerating a lot of things, Blake’s complaint does say this, per E News.

“In one particular instance described in the documents, Blake alleged that the Jane the Virgin star offered to connect her with an expert on probiotics as a “gift” when she caught strep throat. However, upon filling out the privacy forms, the Gossip Girl alum—who had welcomed her and Ryan Reynolds’ fourth baby, son Olin, a few months before filming the movie—realized the expert was actually a weight loss specialist and in her complained she likened the experience to body shaming.”

Another example of her allegation making no sense. He gave her the person’s contact info for probiotics for strep. He didn’t tell her to make an appoint,ent for weight loss,

The point was the person did not appear to be a health specialist addressing illness, but someone who just specializes in weight loss.

If my colleague told me they were having issues with their back and I was like "oh I have the details for a surgeon who might be able to help you" and then it turns out I've given them info for a plastic surgeon who focuses on facial reconstruction but who is, yes, technically a surgeon, that sure looks like I'm trying to say they are ugly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not in the industry, but I would love if someone with actual experience chimed in. I doubt talking about appearance, including weight is off limits for a movie. I mean give me a break. Actors are selling an aesthetic. I’m sure producers make demands about physical appearance all the time.

Agree. Google any actress who’s been in the industry for more than 10 years and she has a story to tell about being told to lose weight. Fit, thin women like Anne Hathaway and Jennifer Lawrence. These stories are a dime a dozen.

But I see no evidence that Blake was fat shamed. All I’ve seen is that he asked her trainer her weight due to a concern about lifting her, I’ve not seen any documentation or even specifics from her that he or anyone involved in the production asked her or told her to lose weight or criticized her about her weight. All I’ve seen is that Ryan berated him for fat shaming her. But if the incident is questions is him asking her trainer her weight, I don’t see how that is fat shaming.

Lively's complaint does not only allege that he asked her trainer about Lively's weight. It also alleges that when Lively caught strep throat, Baldoni connected her with an expert that he claimed would help her combat illness. However it turned out this person was a weight-loss specialist. Combined with his comments to her trainer (which of course got back to her since it was *her* trainer), Baldoni appeared to be implying Lively needed to lose weight.

Implying? Really some of us have lost our minds. Implying anything would not be sexual harassment.

Even on its own terms, however, this allegation makes no sense. He referred her o a doctor to get probiotics for strep, not for weight loss. This is another example of Blake taking something perfectly innocent and trying to twist it into something else entirely.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not in the industry, but I would love if someone with actual experience chimed in. I doubt talking about appearance, including weight is off limits for a movie. I mean give me a break. Actors are selling an aesthetic. I’m sure producers make demands about physical appearance all the time.

Agree. Google any actress who’s been in the industry for more than 10 years and she has a story to tell about being told to lose weight. Fit, thin women like Anne Hathaway and Jennifer Lawrence. These stories are a dime a dozen.

But I see no evidence that Blake was fat shamed. All I’ve seen is that he asked her trainer her weight due to a concern about lifting her, I’ve not seen any documentation or even specifics from her that he or anyone involved in the production asked her or told her to lose weight or criticized her about her weight. All I’ve seen is that Ryan berated him for fat shaming her. But if the incident is questions is him asking her trainer her weight, I don’t see how that is fat shaming.

To be fair, and I’m someone who thinks Blake exaggerating a lot of things, Blake’s complaint does say this, per E News.

“In one particular instance described in the documents, Blake alleged that the Jane the Virgin star offered to connect her with an expert on probiotics as a “gift” when she caught strep throat. However, upon filling out the privacy forms, the Gossip Girl alum—who had welcomed her and Ryan Reynolds’ fourth baby, son Olin, a few months before filming the movie—realized the expert was actually a weight loss specialist and in her complained she likened the experience to body shaming.”

Another example of her allegation making no sense. He gave her the person’s contact info for probiotics for strep. He didn’t tell her to make an appoint,ent for weight loss,

This all sounds really dumb, but I could see how “an expert on probiotics” is also “a weight loss specialist.” Lot of overlap there.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope a lawyer would clarify whether asking about a woman’s weight is in fact sexual harassment—not the poster who is obsessed with fat shaming.

I m a lawyer. Asking for her weight when it’s for a valid purpose related to his job duties, i.e.lifting her, is not sexual harassment. Moreover, it appears here that he asked the trainer so not to embarrass Blake by asking her directly, because she was sensitive about losing the weight she gained during pregnancy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not in the industry, but I would love if someone with actual experience chimed in. I doubt talking about appearance, including weight is off limits for a movie. I mean give me a break. Actors are selling an aesthetic. I’m sure producers make demands about physical appearance all the time.

Agree. Google any actress who’s been in the industry for more than 10 years and she has a story to tell about being told to lose weight. Fit, thin women like Anne Hathaway and Jennifer Lawrence. These stories are a dime a dozen.

But I see no evidence that Blake was fat shamed. All I’ve seen is that he asked her trainer her weight due to a concern about lifting her, I’ve not seen any documentation or even specifics from her that he or anyone involved in the production asked her or told her to lose weight or criticized her about her weight. All I’ve seen is that Ryan berated him for fat shaming her. But if the incident is questions is him asking her trainer her weight, I don’t see how that is fat shaming.

To be fair, and I’m someone who thinks Blake exaggerating a lot of things, Blake’s complaint does say this, per E News.

“In one particular instance described in the documents, Blake alleged that the Jane the Virgin star offered to connect her with an expert on probiotics as a “gift” when she caught strep throat. However, upon filling out the privacy forms, the Gossip Girl alum—who had welcomed her and Ryan Reynolds’ fourth baby, son Olin, a few months before filming the movie—realized the expert was actually a weight loss specialist and in her complained she likened the experience to body shaming.”

Another example of her allegation making no sense. He gave her the person’s contact info for probiotics for strep. He didn’t tell her to make an appoint,ent for weight loss,

This all sounds really dumb, but I could see how “an expert on probiotics” is also “a weight loss specialist.” Lot of overlap there.

Also if she thinks that’s fat shaming, that’s ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope a lawyer would clarify whether asking about a woman’s weight is in fact sexual harassment—not the poster who is obsessed with fat shaming.

Lol. I am actually a lawyer but don't specialize in workplace or harassment issues. However, as a person who exists in society, I will give you a tip:

Do not ask people (men or women or children) about their weight unless they've hired you to do so because you are a healthcare or fitness professional helping them with a weight-related issue.

And because I guess it needs to be said, also do not try to make an end run around the above [extremely obvious] rule by asking someone's healthcare or fitness professional to disclose the person's weight to you behind their back.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope a lawyer would clarify whether asking about a woman’s weight is in fact sexual harassment—not the poster who is obsessed with fat shaming.

I m a lawyer. Asking for her weight when it’s for a valid purpose related to his job duties, i.e.lifting her, is not sexual harassment. Moreover, it appears here that he asked the trainer so not to embarrass Blake by asking her directly, because she was sensitive about losing the weight she gained during pregnancy.

And JB, with his vast experience lifting women, knows exactly what weight he can lift? He probably should have just asked the trainer for a professional opinion on whether it was a good idea for him based on the trainer knows to avoid this sort of problem of being nosy and appearing to gossip. You can hurt your back lifting a small 40lb child if you don't do it correctly, the weight isn't the most relevant question.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not in the industry, but I would love if someone with actual experience chimed in. I doubt talking about appearance, including weight is off limits for a movie. I mean give me a break. Actors are selling an aesthetic. I’m sure producers make demands about physical appearance all the time.

Right. Think of how gorgeous Margot Robbie is but there's crew from the show that have detailed all the treatments they did to make her face glow. That's part of these roles. This is not an office cube job.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope a lawyer would clarify whether asking about a woman’s weight is in fact sexual harassment—not the poster who is obsessed with fat shaming.

Lol. I am actually a lawyer but don't specialize in workplace or harassment issues. However, as a person who exists in society, I will give you a tip:

Do not ask people (men or women or children) about their weight unless they've hired you to do so because you are a healthcare or fitness professional helping them with a weight-related issue.

And because I guess it needs to be said, also do not try to make an end run around the above [extremely obvious] rule by asking someone's healthcare or fitness professional to disclose the person's weight to you behind their back.

The question was for lawyers, with the implication that they specialize in this. Not sure why you took time to reply with a non answer.

Also, don’t give people advice they didn’t ask for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not in the industry, but I would love if someone with actual experience chimed in. I doubt talking about appearance, including weight is off limits for a movie. I mean give me a break. Actors are selling an aesthetic. I’m sure producers make demands about physical appearance all the time.

Agree. Google any actress who’s been in the industry for more than 10 years and she has a story to tell about being told to lose weight. Fit, thin women like Anne Hathaway and Jennifer Lawrence. These stories are a dime a dozen.

But I see no evidence that Blake was fat shamed. All I’ve seen is that he asked her trainer her weight due to a concern about lifting her, I’ve not seen any documentation or even specifics from her that he or anyone involved in the production asked her or told her to lose weight or criticized her about her weight. All I’ve seen is that Ryan berated him for fat shaming her. But if the incident is questions is him asking her trainer her weight, I don’t see how that is fat shaming.

Lively's complaint does not only allege that he asked her trainer about Lively's weight. It also alleges that when Lively caught strep throat, Baldoni connected her with an expert that he claimed would help her combat illness. However it turned out this person was a weight-loss specialist. Combined with his comments to her trainer (which of course got back to her since it was *her* trainer), Baldoni appeared to be implying Lively needed to lose weight.

Implying? Really some of us have lost our minds. Implying anything would not be sexual harassment.

Even on its own terms, however, this allegation makes no sense. He referred her o a doctor to get probiotics for strep, not for weight loss. This is another example of Blake taking something perfectly innocent and trying to twist it into something else entirely.

Of course implying can be sexual harassment. A lot of sexual harassment is implied.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope a lawyer would clarify whether asking about a woman’s weight is in fact sexual harassment—not the poster who is obsessed with fat shaming.

Lol. I am actually a lawyer but don't specialize in workplace or harassment issues. However, as a person who exists in society, I will give you a tip:

Do not ask people (men or women or children) about their weight unless they've hired you to do so because you are a healthcare or fitness professional helping them with a weight-related issue.

And because I guess it needs to be said, also do not try to make an end run around the above [extremely obvious] rule by asking someone's healthcare or fitness professional to disclose the person's weight to you behind their back.

The question was for lawyers, with the implication that they specialize in this. Not sure why you took time to reply with a non answer.

Also, don’t give people advice they didn’t ask for.

As PP gives unsolicited advice

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The impressive mental calisthenics of the Baldoni supporters in here convinces me that they could certainly do a full Dirty Dancing body lift of Justin Baldoni himself in complete Patrick Swayze/Jennifer Grey style. Not sure why you are so invested in this problematic guy who seems to come on pretty strong and be a bit of a jerk to work with, but I guess the wimmins are evil and that's enough reason. And also, in case you missed it, he has a WIFE and a FAMILY, okay. Good luck you guys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope a lawyer would clarify whether asking about a woman’s weight is in fact sexual harassment—not the poster who is obsessed with fat shaming.

I m a lawyer. Asking for her weight when it’s for a valid purpose related to his job duties, i.e.lifting her, is not sexual harassment. Moreover, it appears here that he asked the trainer so not to embarrass Blake by asking her directly, because she was sensitive about losing the weight she gained during pregnancy.

And JB, with his vast experience lifting women, knows exactly what weight he can lift? He probably should have just asked the trainer for a professional opinion on whether it was a good idea for him based on the trainer knows to avoid this sort of problem of being nosy and appearing to gossip. You can hurt your back lifting a small 40lb child if you don't do it correctly, the weight isn't the most relevant question.

I believe he makes clear that he wanted the trainer to work with him to make sure he could lift he weight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope a lawyer would clarify whether asking about a woman’s weight is in fact sexual harassment—not the poster who is obsessed with fat shaming.

Lol. I am actually a lawyer but don't specialize in workplace or harassment issues. However, as a person who exists in society, I will give you a tip:

Do not ask people (men or women or children) about their weight unless they've hired you to do so because you are a healthcare or fitness professional helping them with a weight-related issue.

And because I guess it needs to be said, also do not try to make an end run around the above [extremely obvious] rule by asking someone's healthcare or fitness professional to disclose the person's weight to you behind their back.

The question was for lawyers, with the implication that they specialize in this. Not sure why you took time to reply with a non answer.

Also, don’t give people advice they didn’t ask for.

If you don't know that you shouldn't be asking people their weight and that yes, this could be considered sexual harassment in a work context, they you probably get a lot of unsolicited advice because you are oblivious to very basic things about social interactions and people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope a lawyer would clarify whether asking about a woman’s weight is in fact sexual harassment—not the poster who is obsessed with fat shaming.

I m a lawyer. Asking for her weight when it’s for a valid purpose related to his job duties, i.e.lifting her, is not sexual harassment. Moreover, it appears here that he asked the trainer so not to embarrass Blake by asking her directly, because she was sensitive about losing the weight she gained during pregnancy.

And JB, with his vast experience lifting women, knows exactly what weight he can lift? He probably should have just asked the trainer for a professional opinion on whether it was a good idea for him based on the trainer knows to avoid this sort of problem of being nosy and appearing to gossip. You can hurt your back lifting a small 40lb child if you don't do it correctly, the weight isn't the most relevant question.

I believe he makes clear that he wanted the trainer to work with him to make sure he could lift he weight.

He doesn't need to know her weight to get that point across.