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Anonymous wrote:Coach here
as a parent I would ask to the see the competition schedule of said promised meets. PVS meets any club can go to. So that gives you 3 open meets, Champ meets and 1 LC meet. Machine, YORK NCAP and AAC hosted meets will certainly be out. If judging by how no coaches at Championship meets would interact with him aside from the coaches going with him, and listening to the coach chatter he is not liked by the coach community at all. Hard to get invites to meets when you aren’t liked or trusted. Don’t know him but this is a very small network. They can always travel.

I’m not with any of the directly affected clubs, but why would NCAP or AAC blackball this new club? I understand why you would say York and Machine might not be inclined to invite them to meets, but what is the link with NCAP and AAC?

Machine and NCAP are very close teams and staffs. Many meets are run together.

The AAC head coach, staff and board has been over Ortmayer for years for his continued claims of having anything to do with Huske and her Olympic performances. Another reason stated by coaches of having no respect for Ortmayer. He was not Huske coach, Evan Stiles was. Evan Stiles developed her. Yet Ortmayer actively tries to say she was his swimmer. High school coaches do not produce Olympians. Ortmayer was not liked or respected in the coach community long before he decided to open a club.

This one struck me as odd because I have personally heard Torri talk about how much Torey helped her as a mentor and strength training coach. She was talking to a group of swimmers about conditioning and training. I know ive seen news articles as well supporting this and ive never heard him say anything undercutting Evan as her coach.
You don't have to like him, but you can't take that one away from him. He was involved in her training beyond simply being a high school coach.

He didn't work on her swimming though. It was literally a weight training program. And bu this logic Torey is qualified to be a physical trainer for the help he gave.
Evan was her primary coach and during Covid had to find long course pools for her to train at. Her father probably was her biggest coach. He worked on her nutrition and worked hand and hand with Evan on all her training. The two of them were a team.

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His team website is beyond cheesy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coach here
as a parent I would ask to the see the competition schedule of said promised meets. PVS meets any club can go to. So that gives you 3 open meets, Champ meets and 1 LC meet. Machine, YORK NCAP and AAC hosted meets will certainly be out. If judging by how no coaches at Championship meets would interact with him aside from the coaches going with him, and listening to the coach chatter he is not liked by the coach community at all. Hard to get invites to meets when you aren’t liked or trusted. Don’t know him but this is a very small network. They can always travel.

I’m not with any of the directly affected clubs, but why would NCAP or AAC blackball this new club? I understand why you would say York and Machine might not be inclined to invite them to meets, but what is the link with NCAP and AAC?

Machine and NCAP are very close teams and staffs. Many meets are run together.

The AAC head coach, staff and board has been over Ortmayer for years for his continued claims of having anything to do with Huske and her Olympic performances. Another reason stated by coaches of having no respect for Ortmayer. He was not Huske coach, Evan Stiles was. Evan Stiles developed her. Yet Ortmayer actively tries to say she was his swimmer. High school coaches do not produce Olympians. Ortmayer was not liked or respected in the coach community long before he decided to open a club.

This one struck me as odd because I have personally heard Torri talk about how much Torey helped her as a mentor and strength training coach. She was talking to a group of swimmers about conditioning and training. I know ive seen news articles as well supporting this and ive never heard him say anything undercutting Evan as her coach.
You don't have to like him, but you can't take that one away from him. He was involved in her training beyond simply being a high school coach.

He didn't work on her swimming though. It was literally a weight training program. And bu this logic Torey is qualified to be a physical trainer for the help he gave.
Evan was her primary coach and during Covid had to find long course pools for her to train at. Her father probably was her biggest coach. He worked on her nutrition and worked hand and hand with Evan on all her training. The two of them were a team.

Again, weird one to dig in on. I said I heard her give him credit for this. It doesn't take anything away from Evan (or her dad now?) for Torey to have been involved in her training. And from her words, it was guidance and mentorship as well, which extends beyond just weight training. Please tell me which one of my statements was wrong. He was involved in her training, beyond just sitting back as her high school coach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coach here
as a parent I would ask to the see the competition schedule of said promised meets. PVS meets any club can go to. So that gives you 3 open meets, Champ meets and 1 LC meet. Machine, YORK NCAP and AAC hosted meets will certainly be out. If judging by how no coaches at Championship meets would interact with him aside from the coaches going with him, and listening to the coach chatter he is not liked by the coach community at all. Hard to get invites to meets when you aren’t liked or trusted. Don’t know him but this is a very small network. They can always travel.

I’m not with any of the directly affected clubs, but why would NCAP or AAC blackball this new club? I understand why you would say York and Machine might not be inclined to invite them to meets, but what is the link with NCAP and AAC?

Machine and NCAP are very close teams and staffs. Many meets are run together.

The AAC head coach, staff and board has been over Ortmayer for years for his continued claims of having anything to do with Huske and her Olympic performances. Another reason stated by coaches of having no respect for Ortmayer. He was not Huske coach, Evan Stiles was. Evan Stiles developed her. Yet Ortmayer actively tries to say she was his swimmer. High school coaches do not produce Olympians. Ortmayer was not liked or respected in the coach community long before he decided to open a club.

This one struck me as odd because I have personally heard Torri talk about how much Torey helped her as a mentor and strength training coach. She was talking to a group of swimmers about conditioning and training. I know ive seen news articles as well supporting this and ive never heard him say anything undercutting Evan as her coach.
You don't have to like him, but you can't take that one away from him. He was involved in her training beyond simply being a high school coach.

He didn't work on her swimming though. It was literally a weight training program. And bu this logic Torey is qualified to be a physical trainer for the help he gave.
Evan was her primary coach and during Covid had to find long course pools for her to train at. Her father probably was her biggest coach. He worked on her nutrition and worked hand and hand with Evan on all her training. The two of them were a team.

Again, weird one to dig in on. I said I heard her give him credit for this. It doesn't take anything away from Evan (or her dad now?) for Torey to have been involved in her training. And from her words, it was guidance and mentorship as well, which extends beyond just weight training. Please tell me which one of my statements was wrong. He was involved in her training, beyond just sitting back as her high school coach.

He helped her with a weights and probably cheered her. She is a very kind and generous kid. Incredibly sweet. That was a help to her.

But to then act as if he was one of her foundation swim coaches seems a reach. She was not coached by him from a swim perspective. He played a part as her dryland guy and she appreciated that. If he wants to take credit for that aspect of her training great. But that is not what his site implies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coach here
as a parent I would ask to the see the competition schedule of said promised meets. PVS meets any club can go to. So that gives you 3 open meets, Champ meets and 1 LC meet. Machine, YORK NCAP and AAC hosted meets will certainly be out. If judging by how no coaches at Championship meets would interact with him aside from the coaches going with him, and listening to the coach chatter he is not liked by the coach community at all. Hard to get invites to meets when you aren’t liked or trusted. Don’t know him but this is a very small network. They can always travel.

I’m not with any of the directly affected clubs, but why would NCAP or AAC blackball this new club? I understand why you would say York and Machine might not be inclined to invite them to meets, but what is the link with NCAP and AAC?

Machine and NCAP are very close teams and staffs. Many meets are run together.

The AAC head coach, staff and board has been over Ortmayer for years for his continued claims of having anything to do with Huske and her Olympic performances. Another reason stated by coaches of having no respect for Ortmayer. He was not Huske coach, Evan Stiles was. Evan Stiles developed her. Yet Ortmayer actively tries to say she was his swimmer. High school coaches do not produce Olympians. Ortmayer was not liked or respected in the coach community long before he decided to open a club.

This one struck me as odd because I have personally heard Torri talk about how much Torey helped her as a mentor and strength training coach. She was talking to a group of swimmers about conditioning and training. I know ive seen news articles as well supporting this and ive never heard him say anything undercutting Evan as her coach.
You don't have to like him, but you can't take that one away from him. He was involved in her training beyond simply being a high school coach.

He didn't work on her swimming though. It was literally a weight training program. And bu this logic Torey is qualified to be a physical trainer for the help he gave.
Evan was her primary coach and during Covid had to find long course pools for her to train at. Her father probably was her biggest coach. He worked on her nutrition and worked hand and hand with Evan on all her training. The two of them were a team.

Again, weird one to dig in on. I said I heard her give him credit for this. It doesn't take anything away from Evan (or her dad now?) for Torey to have been involved in her training. And from her words, it was guidance and mentorship as well, which extends beyond just weight training. Please tell me which one of my statements was wrong. He was involved in her training, beyond just sitting back as her high school coach.

He helped her with a weights and probably cheered her. She is a very kind and generous kid. Incredibly sweet. That was a help to her.

But to then act as if he was one of her foundation swim coaches seems a reach. She was not coached by him from a swim perspective. He played a part as her dryland guy and she appreciated that. If he wants to take credit for that aspect of her training great. But that is not what his site implies.

What his site implies? Here's what it actually says:
https://www.swimhydra.com/page/full-coaches-bios/meet-coach-torey-ortmayer

His achievements include:

4x VHSL State Champion Coach
5x VHSL Region Champion Coach
10x VHSL District Champion Coach
Back-to-back NVSL Division 1 Championships with Tuckahoe (2023–2024)
Strength coach for Olympian Torri Huske leading up to the 2021 Tokyo Games



So much hatred on this site. Pretty sure a clear statement he was her strength coach implies that he was her strength coach. Take your anonymous lies somewhere else or post your name with it.

[Anonymous]

There is a lot of hate for him….there is probably a reason for it and again makes me question what meets he is going to get an invite to? You can like a coach but I want my kid to be able to compete outside of the PVS meets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of hate for him….there is probably a reason for it and again makes me question what meets he is going to get an invite to? You can like a coach but I want my kid to be able to compete outside of the PVS meets.

I guess folks will know soon enough. Clock will soon start ticking on sign-ups for the 25-26 season.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coach here
as a parent I would ask to the see the competition schedule of said promised meets. PVS meets any club can go to. So that gives you 3 open meets, Champ meets and 1 LC meet. Machine, YORK NCAP and AAC hosted meets will certainly be out. If judging by how no coaches at Championship meets would interact with him aside from the coaches going with him, and listening to the coach chatter he is not liked by the coach community at all. Hard to get invites to meets when you aren’t liked or trusted. Don’t know him but this is a very small network. They can always travel.

I’m not with any of the directly affected clubs, but why would NCAP or AAC blackball this new club? I understand why you would say York and Machine might not be inclined to invite them to meets, but what is the link with NCAP and AAC?

Machine and NCAP are very close teams and staffs. Many meets are run together.

The AAC head coach, staff and board has been over Ortmayer for years for his continued claims of having anything to do with Huske and her Olympic performances. Another reason stated by coaches of having no respect for Ortmayer. He was not Huske coach, Evan Stiles was. Evan Stiles developed her. Yet Ortmayer actively tries to say she was his swimmer. High school coaches do not produce Olympians. Ortmayer was not liked or respected in the coach community long before he decided to open a club.

This one struck me as odd because I have personally heard Torri talk about how much Torey helped her as a mentor and strength training coach. She was talking to a group of swimmers about conditioning and training. I know ive seen news articles as well supporting this and ive never heard him say anything undercutting Evan as her coach.
You don't have to like him, but you can't take that one away from him. He was involved in her training beyond simply being a high school coach.

He didn't work on her swimming though. It was literally a weight training program. And bu this logic Torey is qualified to be a physical trainer for the help he gave.
Evan was her primary coach and during Covid had to find long course pools for her to train at. Her father probably was her biggest coach. He worked on her nutrition and worked hand and hand with Evan on all her training. The two of them were a team.

Again, weird one to dig in on. I said I heard her give him credit for this. It doesn't take anything away from Evan (or her dad now?) for Torey to have been involved in her training. And from her words, it was guidance and mentorship as well, which extends beyond just weight training. Please tell me which one of my statements was wrong. He was involved in her training, beyond just sitting back as her high school coach.

He helped her with a weights and probably cheered her. She is a very kind and generous kid. Incredibly sweet. That was a help to her.

But to then act as if he was one of her foundation swim coaches seems a reach. She was not coached by him from a swim perspective. He played a part as her dryland guy and she appreciated that. If he wants to take credit for that aspect of her training great. But that is not what his site implies.

What his site implies? Here's what it actually says:
https://www.swimhydra.com/page/full-coaches-bios/meet-coach-torey-ortmayer

His achievements include:

4x VHSL State Champion Coach
5x VHSL Region Champion Coach
10x VHSL District Champion Coach
Back-to-back NVSL Division 1 Championships with Tuckahoe (2023–2024)
Strength coach for Olympian Torri Huske leading up to the 2021 Tokyo Games



So much hatred on this site. Pretty sure a clear statement he was her strength coach implies that he was her strength coach. Take your anonymous lies somewhere else or post your name with it.

🤣🤣 hi Torey or Mark or Lisa

[Anonymous]

I would not sign up for a team without a schedule of meets. They might be limited to PVS opens and no invitationals.

I am not sure what kind of relationship they have with the Makos, Marlins, etc that host a lot of the invites.

I also imagine that it would take some time for them to even make a profit and their rates are pretty high for something untested.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would not sign up for a team without a schedule of meets. They might be limited to PVS opens and no invitationals.

I am not sure what kind of relationship they have with the Makos, Marlins, etc that host a lot of the invites.

I also imagine that it would take some time for them to even make a profit and their rates are pretty high for something untested.

Don’t need to be concerned with profitability if you’re subsidized….

[Anonymous]

Reading through some of these comments, I have to say: the tone and level of negativity is becoming really egregious. I’m not sure if it’s coming from a place of spite or frustration, but at the end of the day, things happen for a reason — and I actually believe there’s a lot of good coming out of this.

The reality is, this situation has created more opportunities for our children. Machine’s investment into facility upgrades is a win for the swimming community. A new club, Hydra, has been launched — giving families another choice and opening more spots at Yorktown for York swimmers. All of this will help create even more opportunities for kids to swim, grow, and find programs that fit them best — and more opportunities for parents to step up as volunteers.

As for Coach T, he’s passionate — and like anyone starting a business, he will have his supporters and his critics. That’s normal. But he’s doing what entrepreneurs do: building something new. I hope the PVS community — Machine, York, AAC, and others — will take the high road, show some leadership, and welcome Hydra at meets with the same fairness and class we all want our children to learn from.

At the end of the day, this is about the kids. We all want our children to grow in environments where leadership, sportsmanship, and resilience are modeled. Let’s focus on that — and rise above the noise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reading through some of these comments, I have to say: the tone and level of negativity is becoming really egregious. I’m not sure if it’s coming from a place of spite or frustration, but at the end of the day, things happen for a reason — and I actually believe there’s a lot of good coming out of this.

The reality is, this situation has created more opportunities for our children. Machine’s investment into facility upgrades is a win for the swimming community. A new club, Hydra, has been launched — giving families another choice and opening more spots at Yorktown for York swimmers. All of this will help create even more opportunities for kids to swim, grow, and find programs that fit them best — and more opportunities for parents to step up as volunteers.

As for Coach T, he’s passionate — and like anyone starting a business, he will have his supporters and his critics. That’s normal. But he’s doing what entrepreneurs do: building something new. I hope the PVS community — Machine, York, AAC, and others — will take the high road, show some leadership, and welcome Hydra at meets with the same fairness and class we all want our children to learn from.

At the end of the day, this is about the kids. We all want our children to grow in environments where leadership, sportsmanship, and resilience are modeled. Let’s focus on that — and rise above the noise.

Blah blah blah from either Hydra or Tuckahoe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reading through some of these comments, I have to say: the tone and level of negativity is becoming really egregious. I’m not sure if it’s coming from a place of spite or frustration, but at the end of the day, things happen for a reason — and I actually believe there’s a lot of good coming out of this.

The reality is, this situation has created more opportunities for our children. Machine’s investment into facility upgrades is a win for the swimming community. A new club, Hydra, has been launched — giving families another choice and opening more spots at Yorktown for York swimmers. All of this will help create even more opportunities for kids to swim, grow, and find programs that fit them best — and more opportunities for parents to step up as volunteers.

As for Coach T, he’s passionate — and like anyone starting a business, he will have his supporters and his critics. That’s normal. But he’s doing what entrepreneurs do: building something new. I hope the PVS community — Machine, York, AAC, and others — will take the high road, show some leadership, and welcome Hydra at meets with the same fairness and class we all want our children to learn from.

At the end of the day, this is about the kids. We all want our children to grow in environments where leadership, sportsmanship, and resilience are modeled. Let’s focus on that — and rise above the noise.

Just like the fairness and class Torey and Tuckahoe showed machine…got it🤣

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reading through some of these comments, I have to say: the tone and level of negativity is becoming really egregious. I’m not sure if it’s coming from a place of spite or frustration, but at the end of the day, things happen for a reason — and I actually believe there’s a lot of good coming out of this.

The reality is, this situation has created more opportunities for our children. Machine’s investment into facility upgrades is a win for the swimming community. A new club, Hydra, has been launched — giving families another choice and opening more spots at Yorktown for York swimmers. All of this will help create even more opportunities for kids to swim, grow, and find programs that fit them best — and more opportunities for parents to step up as volunteers.

As for Coach T, he’s passionate — and like anyone starting a business, he will have his supporters and his critics. That’s normal. But he’s doing what entrepreneurs do: building something new. I hope the PVS community — Machine, York, AAC, and others — will take the high road, show some leadership, and welcome Hydra at meets with the same fairness and class we all want our children to learn from.

At the end of the day, this is about the kids. We all want our children to grow in environments where leadership, sportsmanship, and resilience are modeled. Let’s focus on that — and rise above the noise.

This has got to be bot-generated.

[Anonymous]

Just like the fairness and class Torey and Tuckahoe showed machine…got it🤣

In the real world, transitions happen all the time. In business, incumbents lose legacy contracts. Leaders move on, and it creates opportunities for others to step up and grow. Swimming is no different — change can feel uncomfortable, but it often leads to new opportunities for everyone.