TJ Admissions

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Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

If the lie “affluent families are buying access to question banks” helps you sleep better at night, go ahead and cling to it. How about getting a real job, working harder, getting involved and motivating your kids, so they too can attend not “wealthy schools” but academically excellent schools. Trying is better than whining.

My role as activist might be seen as whining, if that’s how you want to put it! I am an activist, a TJ alumnus, and Asian as well. However, I truly want to see more diversity at TJ, in whatever form it takes. I recognize that this challenges the traditional Asian cultural emphasis on education above all else. Still, without the stability of family support and parental commitment, Asian students would be just like students from other ethnic backgrounds. Don’t you agree?

I agree, and if I thought Asians were discriminated against, I'd be outraged. The reality is that admissions reflect interest. The data shows that the various racial groups are admitted within a few percent of each other based on the admit/apply ratio. The issue isn't the selection process but getting others more interested in this program and eliminating the barriers that discourage them from applying.

What you are describing is the effects of a lottery, not a merit based system.

We had a merit based system and the admitted students did not mimic the applicant pool, it reflected merit.

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Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

What was wrong with the SHSAT?
Why did they switch to Quant Q?

They didn’t use the SHSAT.

What did they use before quant Q?

Pearson.

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Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

If the lie “affluent families are buying access to question banks” helps you sleep better at night, go ahead and cling to it. How about getting a real job, working harder, getting involved and motivating your kids, so they too can attend not “wealthy schools” but academically excellent schools. Trying is better than whining.

My role as activist might be seen as whining, if that’s how you want to put it! I am an activist, a TJ alumnus, and Asian as well. However, I truly want to see more diversity at TJ, in whatever form it takes. I recognize that this challenges the traditional Asian cultural emphasis on education above all else. Still, without the stability of family support and parental commitment, Asian students would be just like students from other ethnic backgrounds. Don’t you agree?

I agree, and if I thought Asians were discriminated against, I'd be outraged. The reality is that admissions reflect interest. The data shows that the various racial groups are admitted within a few percent of each other based on the admit/apply ratio. The issue isn't the selection process but getting others more interested in this program and eliminating the barriers that discourage them from applying.

You continue to spread this lie even though you've been fact-checked countless times before.

class of 2025 admit rates:
Asian 19%
Multiracial/Other* 13%
Black 14%
White 17%
Hispanic 21%

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Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

If the lie “affluent families are buying access to question banks” helps you sleep better at night, go ahead and cling to it. How about getting a real job, working harder, getting involved and motivating your kids, so they too can attend not “wealthy schools” but academically excellent schools. Trying is better than whining.

My role as activist might be seen as whining, if that’s how you want to put it! I am an activist, a TJ alumnus, and Asian as well. However, I truly want to see more diversity at TJ, in whatever form it takes. I recognize that this challenges the traditional Asian cultural emphasis on education above all else. Still, without the stability of family support and parental commitment, Asian students would be just like students from other ethnic backgrounds. Don’t you agree?

All for more diversity, but “whatever form it takes” is the very core problem. So now Asians’ “cultural emphasis on education” is a sin, and we should start a race to the bottom and drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator? Hats off to you for your activism, but let’s be clear: equal outcomes are not the solution to equal opportunities, in any society that wants to thrive and be competitive. Education IS about a nation's competitiveness. You start with a misguided premise.

Public education is meant to be the great equalizer. In this setting, why should a student with a parent who is an undocumented immigrant, a drug addict, or a single parent have fewer opportunities than a student with a dedicated Asian parent?

You're kidding right?

No, sir/madam, I’m not kidding, even a bit. You’re in the old world, while I’m in the new, that you dismiss as the "woke" —though it’s not that at all!

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Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

If the lie “affluent families are buying access to question banks” helps you sleep better at night, go ahead and cling to it. How about getting a real job, working harder, getting involved and motivating your kids, so they too can attend not “wealthy schools” but academically excellent schools. Trying is better than whining.

My role as activist might be seen as whining, if that’s how you want to put it! I am an activist, a TJ alumnus, and Asian as well. However, I truly want to see more diversity at TJ, in whatever form it takes. I recognize that this challenges the traditional Asian cultural emphasis on education above all else. Still, without the stability of family support and parental commitment, Asian students would be just like students from other ethnic backgrounds. Don’t you agree?

LOL you're not an activist, you're a liar.

No one that has been paying attention thinks that this wasn't motivated by race.

And it's hard to believe that you are an asian TJ alum.
I know plenty of asian TJ alums that are extremely woke but none of them would make the claim that asian kids cheated their way into TJ.
None of them would conflate studying with cheating.
Their wokeness manifests itself in the form of charity for URM.

You are lying. PP never conflated studying with cheating.

Many TJ students acknowledge the advantages that test prep courses give the kids whose families can afford them.


https://www.tjtoday.org/23143/showcase/the-children-left-behind/
"The set of skills needed to excel at the exam is different from the one that’s typically taught in schools: for those who haven’t been taking test prep for years, this may as well be the first time that they’ve taken a timed, standardized test. For those who’ve prepared for years, frequent practice exams and sample prompts allow them to gain experience taking 3 hour multiple choice exams like the Quant-Q/ACT-Aspire. As a senior who went through more than three years of TJ prep classes, the contrast between tuition-based courses and free outreach programs is saddening because tuition-based programs simply have more time and money: the competitive culture that fuels TJ prep encourages students to take classes from elementary school while parents’ money purchases the best prep books and hires the best teachers.

Given the additional vague guidelines, little guidance, and a complete lack of prep material, TJ Admissions and its applicant site denies ordinary people, those without access to expensive courses, the opportunity to get ahead. The gap between applicant and finalist demographics continues to widen as fewer and fewer preparatory resources are made public for applicants.

Families with more money can afford to give children that extra edge by signing them up for whatever prep classes they can find. They can pay money to tutoring organizations to teach their children test-taking skills, “skills learned outside of school,” and to access a cache of previous and example prompts, as I witnessed when I took TJ prep; even if prompts become outdated by test changes, even access to old prompts enables private tutoring pupils to gain an upper edge over others: pupils become accustomed to the format of the writing sections and gain an approximate idea of what to expect."

https://www.tjtoday.org/29411/features/students-divided-on-proposed-changes-to-admissions-process/
"“Personally, TJ admissions was not a challenge to navigate. I had a sibling who attended before me. However, a lot of resources needed to navigate admissions cost money. That is an unfair advantage given to more economically advantaged students,” junior Vivi Rao said. "


https://www.advancingjustice-aajc.org/press-release/civil-rights-groups-submit-amicus-brief-support-race-neutral-admissions-policy-thomas
"“For too long, education opportunities for marginalized communities in the Commonwealth - such as BIPOC, immigrant, non-English speaking, and working-class Virginians - were overlooked, under-resourced, or made inaccessible,” said Zowee Aquino, Policy and Communications Lead at Hamkae Center. “As an Asian American from Southeast Virginia, this was the reality that I and many other students internalized, until the TJ admissions process reforms challenged this notion and sought to change it. While there's certainly more work to be done, the Fairfax County School Board have taken a meaningful step towards improving education in Virginia by prioritizing equitable access and using a community-centered approach to address a complex, historic problem.”"

“Underserved youth from marginalized communities, including the Asian Americans that AALEAD serves, continue to confront barriers to educational opportunities despite their qualifications and hard work,” said Akil Vohra, Executive Director, Asian American LEAD. “We will continue to support action taken by school districts to make admissions policies fairer and more accessible to all.”

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Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

If the lie “affluent families are buying access to question banks” helps you sleep better at night, go ahead and cling to it. How about getting a real job, working harder, getting involved and motivating your kids, so they too can attend not “wealthy schools” but academically excellent schools. Trying is better than whining.

My role as activist might be seen as whining, if that’s how you want to put it! I am an activist, a TJ alumnus, and Asian as well. However, I truly want to see more diversity at TJ, in whatever form it takes. I recognize that this challenges the traditional Asian cultural emphasis on education above all else. Still, without the stability of family support and parental commitment, Asian students would be just like students from other ethnic backgrounds. Don’t you agree?

I agree, and if I thought Asians were discriminated against, I'd be outraged. The reality is that admissions reflect interest. The data shows that the various racial groups are admitted within a few percent of each other based on the admit/apply ratio. The issue isn't the selection process but getting others more interested in this program and eliminating the barriers that discourage them from applying.

You continue to spread this lie even though you've been fact-checked countless times before.

class of 2025 admit rates:
Asian 19%
Multiracial/Other* 13%
Black 14%
White 17%
Hispanic 21%

I’m not sure how these percentages matter, when the top half of TJ is dominated by the same ethnicity even after admission change? While FCPS claims to have achieved diversity, it’s all in the bottom tier of TJ. How is that considered "respectable" diversity?

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You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

If the lie “affluent families are buying access to question banks” helps you sleep better at night, go ahead and cling to it. How about getting a real job, working harder, getting involved and motivating your kids, so they too can attend not “wealthy schools” but academically excellent schools. Trying is better than whining.

He isn't lying to himself, he is lying to everyone else that needs to hear that the only reason asians are excelling is because they cheat.

Literally the only person saying that is you.

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Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

If the lie “affluent families are buying access to question banks” helps you sleep better at night, go ahead and cling to it. How about getting a real job, working harder, getting involved and motivating your kids, so they too can attend not “wealthy schools” but academically excellent schools. Trying is better than whining.

My role as activist might be seen as whining, if that’s how you want to put it! I am an activist, a TJ alumnus, and Asian as well. However, I truly want to see more diversity at TJ, in whatever form it takes. I recognize that this challenges the traditional Asian cultural emphasis on education above all else. Still, without the stability of family support and parental commitment, Asian students would be just like students from other ethnic backgrounds. Don’t you agree?

I agree, and if I thought Asians were discriminated against, I'd be outraged. The reality is that admissions reflect interest. The data shows that the various racial groups are admitted within a few percent of each other based on the admit/apply ratio. The issue isn't the selection process but getting others more interested in this program and eliminating the barriers that discourage them from applying.

You continue to spread this lie even though you've been fact-checked countless times before.

class of 2025 admit rates:
Asian 19%
Multiracial/Other* 13%
Black 14%
White 17%
Hispanic 21%

I’m not sure how these percentages matter, when the top half of TJ is dominated by the same ethnicity even after admission change? While FCPS claims to have achieved diversity, it’s all in the bottom tier of TJ. How is that considered "respectable" diversity?

The %s are relevant because PP made the false claim about admit rates.

You are making racist assumptions about the "top half of TJ" and also lying about what FCPS is claiming.

As usual, Republicans don't feel limited by facts or truth.

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Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

If the lie “affluent families are buying access to question banks” helps you sleep better at night, go ahead and cling to it. How about getting a real job, working harder, getting involved and motivating your kids, so they too can attend not “wealthy schools” but academically excellent schools. Trying is better than whining.

My role as activist might be seen as whining, if that’s how you want to put it! I am an activist, a TJ alumnus, and Asian as well. However, I truly want to see more diversity at TJ, in whatever form it takes. I recognize that this challenges the traditional Asian cultural emphasis on education above all else. Still, without the stability of family support and parental commitment, Asian students would be just like students from other ethnic backgrounds. Don’t you agree?

I agree, and if I thought Asians were discriminated against, I'd be outraged. The reality is that admissions reflect interest. The data shows that the various racial groups are [b]admitted within a few percent of each other based on the admit/apply ratio. [/b]The issue isn't the selection process but getting others more interested in this program and eliminating the barriers that discourage them from applying.

You continue to spread this lie even though you've been fact-checked countless times before.

class of 2025 admit rates:
Asian 19%
Multiracial/Other* 13%
Black 14%
White 17%
Hispanic 21%

Oddly your data just confirms the veracity of their post.

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Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

If the lie “affluent families are buying access to question banks” helps you sleep better at night, go ahead and cling to it. How about getting a real job, working harder, getting involved and motivating your kids, so they too can attend not “wealthy schools” but academically excellent schools. Trying is better than whining.

My role as activist might be seen as whining, if that’s how you want to put it! I am an activist, a TJ alumnus, and Asian as well. However, I truly want to see more diversity at TJ, in whatever form it takes. I recognize that this challenges the traditional Asian cultural emphasis on education above all else. Still, without the stability of family support and parental commitment, Asian students would be just like students from other ethnic backgrounds. Don’t you agree?

I agree, and if I thought Asians were discriminated against, I'd be outraged. The reality is that admissions reflect interest. The data shows that the various racial groups are [b]admitted within a few percent of each other based on the admit/apply ratio. [/b]The issue isn't the selection process but getting others more interested in this program and eliminating the barriers that discourage them from applying.

You continue to spread this lie even though you've been fact-checked countless times before.

class of 2025 admit rates:
Asian 19%
Multiracial/Other* 13%
Black 14%
White 17%
Hispanic 21%

Oddly your data just confirms the veracity of their post.

Check your math. 6% disparity is twice what the PP claims.

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Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

If the lie “affluent families are buying access to question banks” helps you sleep better at night, go ahead and cling to it. How about getting a real job, working harder, getting involved and motivating your kids, so they too can attend not “wealthy schools” but academically excellent schools. Trying is better than whining.

My role as activist might be seen as whining, if that’s how you want to put it! I am an activist, a TJ alumnus, and Asian as well. However, I truly want to see more diversity at TJ, in whatever form it takes. I recognize that this challenges the traditional Asian cultural emphasis on education above all else. Still, without the stability of family support and parental commitment, Asian students would be just like students from other ethnic backgrounds. Don’t you agree?

I agree, and if I thought Asians were discriminated against, I'd be outraged. The reality is that admissions reflect interest. The data shows that the various racial groups are admitted within a few percent of each other based on the admit/apply ratio. The issue isn't the selection process but getting others more interested in this program and eliminating the barriers that discourage them from applying.

You continue to spread this lie even though you've been fact-checked countless times before.

class of 2025 admit rates:
Asian 19%
Multiracial/Other* 13%
Black 14%
White 17%
Hispanic 21%

And what were they for class of 2026, 2027, 2028?

Because those numbers seem very close.

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Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

If the lie “affluent families are buying access to question banks” helps you sleep better at night, go ahead and cling to it. How about getting a real job, working harder, getting involved and motivating your kids, so they too can attend not “wealthy schools” but academically excellent schools. Trying is better than whining.

My role as activist might be seen as whining, if that’s how you want to put it! I am an activist, a TJ alumnus, and Asian as well. However, I truly want to see more diversity at TJ, in whatever form it takes. I recognize that this challenges the traditional Asian cultural emphasis on education above all else. Still, without the stability of family support and parental commitment, Asian students would be just like students from other ethnic backgrounds. Don’t you agree?

LOL you're not an activist, you're a liar.

No one that has been paying attention thinks that this wasn't motivated by race.

And it's hard to believe that you are an asian TJ alum.
I know plenty of asian TJ alums that are extremely woke but none of them would make the claim that asian kids cheated their way into TJ.
None of them would conflate studying with cheating.
Their wokeness manifests itself in the form of charity for URM.

You are lying. PP never conflated studying with cheating.

Many TJ students acknowledge the advantages that test prep courses give the kids whose families can afford them.

Yes, what you call test prep is actually studying.

The prepvious PP frequently conflates studying with cheating.
The previous PP frequently makes false claim about people buying the test, the answers or both.
The previous PP lies about the race driven conversation that resulted in the current admissions process.
In short, the previous PP is a liar.

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Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

If the lie “affluent families are buying access to question banks” helps you sleep better at night, go ahead and cling to it. How about getting a real job, working harder, getting involved and motivating your kids, so they too can attend not “wealthy schools” but academically excellent schools. Trying is better than whining.

My role as activist might be seen as whining, if that’s how you want to put it! I am an activist, a TJ alumnus, and Asian as well. However, I truly want to see more diversity at TJ, in whatever form it takes. I recognize that this challenges the traditional Asian cultural emphasis on education above all else. Still, without the stability of family support and parental commitment, Asian students would be just like students from other ethnic backgrounds. Don’t you agree?

I agree, and if I thought Asians were discriminated against, I'd be outraged. The reality is that admissions reflect interest. The data shows that the various racial groups are admitted within a few percent of each other based on the admit/apply ratio. The issue isn't the selection process but getting others more interested in this program and eliminating the barriers that discourage them from applying.

You continue to spread this lie even though you've been fact-checked countless times before.

class of 2025 admit rates:
Asian 19%
Multiracial/Other* 13%
Black 14%
White 17%
Hispanic 21%

I’m not sure how these percentages matter, when the top half of TJ is dominated by the same ethnicity even after admission change? While FCPS claims to have achieved diversity, it’s all in the bottom tier of TJ. How is that considered "respectable" diversity?

That's the way diversity works at all the selective colleges as well.
We are training our best and brightest to think of URM as less intelligent by surrounding them with less intelligent URMs.

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Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

If the lie “affluent families are buying access to question banks” helps you sleep better at night, go ahead and cling to it. How about getting a real job, working harder, getting involved and motivating your kids, so they too can attend not “wealthy schools” but academically excellent schools. Trying is better than whining.

My role as activist might be seen as whining, if that’s how you want to put it! I am an activist, a TJ alumnus, and Asian as well. However, I truly want to see more diversity at TJ, in whatever form it takes. I recognize that this challenges the traditional Asian cultural emphasis on education above all else. Still, without the stability of family support and parental commitment, Asian students would be just like students from other ethnic backgrounds. Don’t you agree?

I agree, and if I thought Asians were discriminated against, I'd be outraged. The reality is that admissions reflect interest. The data shows that the various racial groups are [b]admitted within a few percent of each other based on the admit/apply ratio. [/b]The issue isn't the selection process but getting others more interested in this program and eliminating the barriers that discourage them from applying.

You continue to spread this lie even though you've been fact-checked countless times before.

class of 2025 admit rates:
Asian 19%
Multiracial/Other* 13%
Black 14%
White 17%
Hispanic 21%

Oddly your data just confirms the veracity of their post.

Check your math. 6% disparity is twice what the PP claims.

This isn't a big gap.

Consider the gap in previous years:
Asian 25%
Multiracial/Other* 19%
Black <7%%
White 14%
Hispanic 7%

https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-486-students

BTW where are you getting your numbers and do you have numbers for class of 2026, 2027 and 2028?
FCPS seem awfully secretive about these numbers.

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Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

If the lie “affluent families are buying access to question banks” helps you sleep better at night, go ahead and cling to it. How about getting a real job, working harder, getting involved and motivating your kids, so they too can attend not “wealthy schools” but academically excellent schools. Trying is better than whining.

My role as activist might be seen as whining, if that’s how you want to put it! I am an activist, a TJ alumnus, and Asian as well. However, I truly want to see more diversity at TJ, in whatever form it takes. I recognize that this challenges the traditional Asian cultural emphasis on education above all else. Still, without the stability of family support and parental commitment, Asian students would be just like students from other ethnic backgrounds. Don’t you agree?

LOL you're not an activist, you're a liar.

No one that has been paying attention thinks that this wasn't motivated by race.

And it's hard to believe that you are an asian TJ alum.
I know plenty of asian TJ alums that are extremely woke but none of them would make the claim that asian kids cheated their way into TJ.
None of them would conflate studying with cheating.
Their wokeness manifests itself in the form of charity for URM.

You are lying. PP never conflated studying with cheating.

Many TJ students acknowledge the advantages that test prep courses give the kids whose families can afford them.

Yes, what you call test prep is actually studying.

The prepvious PP frequently conflates studying with cheating.
The previous PP frequently makes false claim about people buying the test, the answers or both.
The previous PP lies about the race driven conversation that resulted in the current admissions process.
In short, the previous PP is a liar.

More fiction.

We all know that kids who attend test prep programs and have access to prior test questions have an unfair advantage that their parents bought for them.