Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Anonymous wrote:What is actually absurd is that people think her harassment case hangs on the interpretation of the one scene.

You can't prove OR disprove a hostile work environment claim by looking at one incident.

Did he enter her trailer unannounced while she was nursing or pumping? Did she ask him not to? Did he do it again?

Did Heath enter the makeup trailer while she was topless even after she asked him not to? Did she ask him to turn around? Did he?

Did Baldoni and Heath suddenly introduce the idea of Lively being fully nude for the birthing scene on the day of the shoot? Did they attempt to show her a video of a nude birth without her consent? Was Lively denied some kind of covering during the filming of the scene when asked? Was the set open or closed?

Did Lively make requests for the IC to be present in certain scenes and was this request respected? Did Baldoni make scenes more intimate or introduce nudity to scenes where it was not scripted, and fail to engage the IC or ensure Lively was giving consent to these changes?

Did Wayfarer properly obtain nudity riders from Lively for all nudity in the movie, and did the film follow contractual obligations of the rider?

Was the IC engaged following typical industry standards?

And then there are all these more minor allegations that could contribute to hostile work environment, if true. Like the allegation that Baldoni told Lively, on multiple occasions and even after she asked him not to, that he was communicating with her dead father. Or the allegation that Baldoni repeatedly discussed pornography with Lively even after she asked him not to, and made fun of the fact that she had disclosed to him that she had never seen pornography to a group of crew members.

I have no idea what the truth to these allegations is. Neither does anyone else on this thread. But this is what the case is about. It does not hinge on whether or not Lively appears to look uncomfortable in a few minutes of b-roll. That footage will be relevant to the case as it concerns one of her allegations. But the case does not revolve around it and if they can prove other allegations, it may not mater if the fact finder concludes that specific institute did not constitute harassment or contribute to hostile work environment.

Y'all are trying to litigate this case without discovery. It's dumb. We don't know! We also may never know if it settles out of court which it probably should, because figuring out the veracity of all of the forgoing allegations is going to be painful and unpleasant for all involved.

When you allege things happened a certain way in your complaint and then recordings of you and texts sent by you disprove that, you have ruined your credibility. That is what happened here.

Exactly. And people are ignoring one major red flag of the scene. Her team was not aware that it had audio. If Blake knew that he had his microphone on, and all their conversation was picked up, guarantee nothing in the scene would have been included because it absolutely does not hold up.

This absolutely damaged her credibility.

And then we are talking about this because this is just the latest. There are so many more she things. She blatantly implied in her suit that he went behind her back to ask her trainer about her weight. Then we find out she set justin up with her and Ryan’s trainer to help with his back problems. There are texts by the trainer, giving him a special program to help strengthen his back. He was talking to Blake’s trainer about his back problems in a way very much sanctioned by her. Certainly lifting her in a scene would be absolutely relevant to both of their safety.

Then we get all the texts about how worried she is about her body, and him being nothing but professional, comforting, telling her absolutely not to worry about it, they’re going to set it up in a way that’s going to make her comfortable.

I’ll say it again, it’s possible she felt uncomfortable for some things going on in this set. It seems like she created a lot of the chaos and she’s clearly taken so many things out of context so it’s hard to believe her about any of the other things.

If she has a case bring forward actual examples that show he was acting inappropriate. If there are five examples where he was, and you bring out five others where he wasn’t, it really is going to hurt your credibility.

On what planet is it ok to ask the trainer about her weight? It’s still inappropriate. Stop making excuses.

On the planet where he has back problems.

What professional divulges personal information about other clients like that? Not one that wants to keep their clients.

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Anonymous wrote:What is actually absurd is that people think her harassment case hangs on the interpretation of the one scene.

You can't prove OR disprove a hostile work environment claim by looking at one incident.

Did he enter her trailer unannounced while she was nursing or pumping? Did she ask him not to? Did he do it again?

Did Heath enter the makeup trailer while she was topless even after she asked him not to? Did she ask him to turn around? Did he?

Did Baldoni and Heath suddenly introduce the idea of Lively being fully nude for the birthing scene on the day of the shoot? Did they attempt to show her a video of a nude birth without her consent? Was Lively denied some kind of covering during the filming of the scene when asked? Was the set open or closed?

Did Lively make requests for the IC to be present in certain scenes and was this request respected? Did Baldoni make scenes more intimate or introduce nudity to scenes where it was not scripted, and fail to engage the IC or ensure Lively was giving consent to these changes?

Did Wayfarer properly obtain nudity riders from Lively for all nudity in the movie, and did the film follow contractual obligations of the rider?

Was the IC engaged following typical industry standards?

And then there are all these more minor allegations that could contribute to hostile work environment, if true. Like the allegation that Baldoni told Lively, on multiple occasions and even after she asked him not to, that he was communicating with her dead father. Or the allegation that Baldoni repeatedly discussed pornography with Lively even after she asked him not to, and made fun of the fact that she had disclosed to him that she had never seen pornography to a group of crew members.

I have no idea what the truth to these allegations is. Neither does anyone else on this thread. But this is what the case is about. It does not hinge on whether or not Lively appears to look uncomfortable in a few minutes of b-roll. That footage will be relevant to the case as it concerns one of her allegations. But the case does not revolve around it and if they can prove other allegations, it may not mater if the fact finder concludes that specific institute did not constitute harassment or contribute to hostile work environment.

Y'all are trying to litigate this case without discovery. It's dumb. We don't know! We also may never know if it settles out of court which it probably should, because figuring out the veracity of all of the forgoing allegations is going to be painful and unpleasant for all involved.

When you allege things happened a certain way in your complaint and then recordings of you and texts sent by you disprove that, you have ruined your credibility. That is what happened here.

Exactly. And people are ignoring one major red flag of the scene. Her team was not aware that it had audio. If Blake knew that he had his microphone on, and all their conversation was picked up, guarantee nothing in the scene would have been included because it absolutely does not hold up.

This absolutely damaged her credibility.

And then we are talking about this because this is just the latest. There are so many more she things. She blatantly implied in her suit that he went behind her back to ask her trainer about her weight. Then we find out she set justin up with her and Ryan’s trainer to help with his back problems. There are texts by the trainer, giving him a special program to help strengthen his back. He was talking to Blake’s trainer about his back problems in a way very much sanctioned by her. Certainly lifting her in a scene would be absolutely relevant to both of their safety.

Then we get all the texts about how worried she is about her body, and him being nothing but professional, comforting, telling her absolutely not to worry about it, they’re going to set it up in a way that’s going to make her comfortable.

I’ll say it again, it’s possible she felt uncomfortable for some things going on in this set. It seems like she created a lot of the chaos and she’s clearly taken so many things out of context so it’s hard to believe her about any of the other things.

If she has a case bring forward actual examples that show he was acting inappropriate. If there are five examples where he was, and you bring out five others where he wasn’t, it really is going to hurt your credibility.

On what planet is it ok to ask the trainer about her weight? It’s still inappropriate. Stop making excuses.

On what planet would it not be appropriate to make sure it’s safe to lift her? He has a history of major back problems. 100% appropriate question and actually inappropriate not to for both their safety.

It’s hardly sexual harassment and it had nothing to do with him wanting her to lose weight. Absolutely ridiculous.

Nope. You're wrong on this. As if he knows that 135 is ok but 140 is absolutely not. What a nut bag.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is actually absurd is that people think her harassment case hangs on the interpretation of the one scene.

You can't prove OR disprove a hostile work environment claim by looking at one incident.

Did he enter her trailer unannounced while she was nursing or pumping? Did she ask him not to? Did he do it again?

Did Heath enter the makeup trailer while she was topless even after she asked him not to? Did she ask him to turn around? Did he?

Did Baldoni and Heath suddenly introduce the idea of Lively being fully nude for the birthing scene on the day of the shoot? Did they attempt to show her a video of a nude birth without her consent? Was Lively denied some kind of covering during the filming of the scene when asked? Was the set open or closed?

Did Lively make requests for the IC to be present in certain scenes and was this request respected? Did Baldoni make scenes more intimate or introduce nudity to scenes where it was not scripted, and fail to engage the IC or ensure Lively was giving consent to these changes?

Did Wayfarer properly obtain nudity riders from Lively for all nudity in the movie, and did the film follow contractual obligations of the rider?

Was the IC engaged following typical industry standards?

And then there are all these more minor allegations that could contribute to hostile work environment, if true. Like the allegation that Baldoni told Lively, on multiple occasions and even after she asked him not to, that he was communicating with her dead father. Or the allegation that Baldoni repeatedly discussed pornography with Lively even after she asked him not to, and made fun of the fact that she had disclosed to him that she had never seen pornography to a group of crew members.

I have no idea what the truth to these allegations is. Neither does anyone else on this thread. But this is what the case is about. It does not hinge on whether or not Lively appears to look uncomfortable in a few minutes of b-roll. That footage will be relevant to the case as it concerns one of her allegations. But the case does not revolve around it and if they can prove other allegations, it may not mater if the fact finder concludes that specific institute did not constitute harassment or contribute to hostile work environment.

Y'all are trying to litigate this case without discovery. It's dumb. We don't know! We also may never know if it settles out of court which it probably should, because figuring out the veracity of all of the forgoing allegations is going to be painful and unpleasant for all involved.

When you allege things happened a certain way in your complaint and then recordings of you and texts sent by you disprove that, you have ruined your credibility. That is what happened here.

Exactly. And people are ignoring one major red flag of the scene. Her team was not aware that it had audio. If Blake knew that he had his microphone on, and all their conversation was picked up, guarantee nothing in the scene would have been included because it absolutely does not hold up.

This absolutely damaged her credibility.

And then we are talking about this because this is just the latest. There are so many more she things. She blatantly implied in her suit that he went behind her back to ask her trainer about her weight. Then we find out she set justin up with her and Ryan’s trainer to help with his back problems. There are texts by the trainer, giving him a special program to help strengthen his back. He was talking to Blake’s trainer about his back problems in a way very much sanctioned by her. Certainly lifting her in a scene would be absolutely relevant to both of their safety.

Then we get all the texts about how worried she is about her body, and him being nothing but professional, comforting, telling her absolutely not to worry about it, they’re going to set it up in a way that’s going to make her comfortable.

I’ll say it again, it’s possible she felt uncomfortable for some things going on in this set. It seems like she created a lot of the chaos and she’s clearly taken so many things out of context so it’s hard to believe her about any of the other things.

If she has a case bring forward actual examples that show he was acting inappropriate. If there are five examples where he was, and you bring out five others where he wasn’t, it really is going to hurt your credibility.

On what planet is it ok to ask the trainer about her weight? It’s still inappropriate. Stop making excuses.

On what planet would it not be appropriate to make sure it’s safe to lift her? He has a history of major back problems. 100% appropriate question and actually inappropriate not to for both their safety.

It’s hardly sexual harassment and it had nothing to do with him wanting her to lose weight. Absolutely ridiculous.

Nope. You're wrong on this. As if he knows that 135 is ok but 140 is absolutely not. What a nut bag.

+1

If he was working with Lively's trainer, he could easily have just said "I'm worried about the lift with Blake because of my back, can you help me get ready for that." There is zero reason to ask this person for Lively's exact weight.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is actually absurd is that people think her harassment case hangs on the interpretation of the one scene.

You can't prove OR disprove a hostile work environment claim by looking at one incident.

Did he enter her trailer unannounced while she was nursing or pumping? Did she ask him not to? Did he do it again?

Did Heath enter the makeup trailer while she was topless even after she asked him not to? Did she ask him to turn around? Did he?

Did Baldoni and Heath suddenly introduce the idea of Lively being fully nude for the birthing scene on the day of the shoot? Did they attempt to show her a video of a nude birth without her consent? Was Lively denied some kind of covering during the filming of the scene when asked? Was the set open or closed?

Did Lively make requests for the IC to be present in certain scenes and was this request respected? Did Baldoni make scenes more intimate or introduce nudity to scenes where it was not scripted, and fail to engage the IC or ensure Lively was giving consent to these changes?

Did Wayfarer properly obtain nudity riders from Lively for all nudity in the movie, and did the film follow contractual obligations of the rider?

Was the IC engaged following typical industry standards?

And then there are all these more minor allegations that could contribute to hostile work environment, if true. Like the allegation that Baldoni told Lively, on multiple occasions and even after she asked him not to, that he was communicating with her dead father. Or the allegation that Baldoni repeatedly discussed pornography with Lively even after she asked him not to, and made fun of the fact that she had disclosed to him that she had never seen pornography to a group of crew members.

I have no idea what the truth to these allegations is. Neither does anyone else on this thread. But this is what the case is about. It does not hinge on whether or not Lively appears to look uncomfortable in a few minutes of b-roll. That footage will be relevant to the case as it concerns one of her allegations. But the case does not revolve around it and if they can prove other allegations, it may not mater if the fact finder concludes that specific institute did not constitute harassment or contribute to hostile work environment.

Y'all are trying to litigate this case without discovery. It's dumb. We don't know! We also may never know if it settles out of court which it probably should, because figuring out the veracity of all of the forgoing allegations is going to be painful and unpleasant for all involved.

When you allege things happened a certain way in your complaint and then recordings of you and texts sent by you disprove that, you have ruined your credibility. That is what happened here.

Exactly. And people are ignoring one major red flag of the scene. Her team was not aware that it had audio. If Blake knew that he had his microphone on, and all their conversation was picked up, guarantee nothing in the scene would have been included because it absolutely does not hold up.

This absolutely damaged her credibility.

And then we are talking about this because this is just the latest. There are so many more she things. She blatantly implied in her suit that he went behind her back to ask her trainer about her weight. Then we find out she set justin up with her and Ryan’s trainer to help with his back problems. There are texts by the trainer, giving him a special program to help strengthen his back. He was talking to Blake’s trainer about his back problems in a way very much sanctioned by her. Certainly lifting her in a scene would be absolutely relevant to both of their safety.

Then we get all the texts about how worried she is about her body, and him being nothing but professional, comforting, telling her absolutely not to worry about it, they’re going to set it up in a way that’s going to make her comfortable.

I’ll say it again, it’s possible she felt uncomfortable for some things going on in this set. It seems like she created a lot of the chaos and she’s clearly taken so many things out of context so it’s hard to believe her about any of the other things.

If she has a case bring forward actual examples that show he was acting inappropriate. If there are five examples where he was, and you bring out five others where he wasn’t, it really is going to hurt your credibility.

On what planet is it ok to ask the trainer about her weight? It’s still inappropriate. Stop making excuses.

On what planet would it not be appropriate to make sure it’s safe to lift her? He has a history of major back problems. 100% appropriate question and actually inappropriate not to for both their safety.

It’s hardly sexual harassment and it had nothing to do with him wanting her to lose weight. Absolutely ridiculous.

Nope. You're wrong on this. As if he knows that 135 is ok but 140 is absolutely not. What a nut bag.

Men have no concept of what women weigh. What makes you think he was wondering about a 5 pound difference.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is actually absurd is that people think her harassment case hangs on the interpretation of the one scene.

You can't prove OR disprove a hostile work environment claim by looking at one incident.

Did he enter her trailer unannounced while she was nursing or pumping? Did she ask him not to? Did he do it again?

Did Heath enter the makeup trailer while she was topless even after she asked him not to? Did she ask him to turn around? Did he?

Did Baldoni and Heath suddenly introduce the idea of Lively being fully nude for the birthing scene on the day of the shoot? Did they attempt to show her a video of a nude birth without her consent? Was Lively denied some kind of covering during the filming of the scene when asked? Was the set open or closed?

Did Lively make requests for the IC to be present in certain scenes and was this request respected? Did Baldoni make scenes more intimate or introduce nudity to scenes where it was not scripted, and fail to engage the IC or ensure Lively was giving consent to these changes?

Did Wayfarer properly obtain nudity riders from Lively for all nudity in the movie, and did the film follow contractual obligations of the rider?

Was the IC engaged following typical industry standards?

And then there are all these more minor allegations that could contribute to hostile work environment, if true. Like the allegation that Baldoni told Lively, on multiple occasions and even after she asked him not to, that he was communicating with her dead father. Or the allegation that Baldoni repeatedly discussed pornography with Lively even after she asked him not to, and made fun of the fact that she had disclosed to him that she had never seen pornography to a group of crew members.

I have no idea what the truth to these allegations is. Neither does anyone else on this thread. But this is what the case is about. It does not hinge on whether or not Lively appears to look uncomfortable in a few minutes of b-roll. That footage will be relevant to the case as it concerns one of her allegations. But the case does not revolve around it and if they can prove other allegations, it may not mater if the fact finder concludes that specific institute did not constitute harassment or contribute to hostile work environment.

Y'all are trying to litigate this case without discovery. It's dumb. We don't know! We also may never know if it settles out of court which it probably should, because figuring out the veracity of all of the forgoing allegations is going to be painful and unpleasant for all involved.

When you allege things happened a certain way in your complaint and then recordings of you and texts sent by you disprove that, you have ruined your credibility. That is what happened here.

Exactly. And people are ignoring one major red flag of the scene. Her team was not aware that it had audio. If Blake knew that he had his microphone on, and all their conversation was picked up, guarantee nothing in the scene would have been included because it absolutely does not hold up.

This absolutely damaged her credibility.

And then we are talking about this because this is just the latest. There are so many more she things. She blatantly implied in her suit that he went behind her back to ask her trainer about her weight. Then we find out she set justin up with her and Ryan’s trainer to help with his back problems. There are texts by the trainer, giving him a special program to help strengthen his back. He was talking to Blake’s trainer about his back problems in a way very much sanctioned by her. Certainly lifting her in a scene would be absolutely relevant to both of their safety.

Then we get all the texts about how worried she is about her body, and him being nothing but professional, comforting, telling her absolutely not to worry about it, they’re going to set it up in a way that’s going to make her comfortable.

I’ll say it again, it’s possible she felt uncomfortable for some things going on in this set. It seems like she created a lot of the chaos and she’s clearly taken so many things out of context so it’s hard to believe her about any of the other things.

If she has a case bring forward actual examples that show he was acting inappropriate. If there are five examples where he was, and you bring out five others where he wasn’t, it really is going to hurt your credibility.

On what planet is it ok to ask the trainer about her weight? It’s still inappropriate. Stop making excuses.

On what planet would it not be appropriate to make sure it’s safe to lift her? He has a history of major back problems. 100% appropriate question and actually inappropriate not to for both their safety.

It’s hardly sexual harassment and it had nothing to do with him wanting her to lose weight. Absolutely ridiculous.

Nope. You're wrong on this. As if he knows that 135 is ok but 140 is absolutely not. What a nut bag.

Men have no concept of what women weigh. What makes you think he was wondering about a 5 pound difference.

And what would be the professional way to go about answering that serious question?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is actually absurd is that people think her harassment case hangs on the interpretation of the one scene.

You can't prove OR disprove a hostile work environment claim by looking at one incident.

Did he enter her trailer unannounced while she was nursing or pumping? Did she ask him not to? Did he do it again?

Did Heath enter the makeup trailer while she was topless even after she asked him not to? Did she ask him to turn around? Did he?

Did Baldoni and Heath suddenly introduce the idea of Lively being fully nude for the birthing scene on the day of the shoot? Did they attempt to show her a video of a nude birth without her consent? Was Lively denied some kind of covering during the filming of the scene when asked? Was the set open or closed?

Did Lively make requests for the IC to be present in certain scenes and was this request respected? Did Baldoni make scenes more intimate or introduce nudity to scenes where it was not scripted, and fail to engage the IC or ensure Lively was giving consent to these changes?

Did Wayfarer properly obtain nudity riders from Lively for all nudity in the movie, and did the film follow contractual obligations of the rider?

Was the IC engaged following typical industry standards?

And then there are all these more minor allegations that could contribute to hostile work environment, if true. Like the allegation that Baldoni told Lively, on multiple occasions and even after she asked him not to, that he was communicating with her dead father. Or the allegation that Baldoni repeatedly discussed pornography with Lively even after she asked him not to, and made fun of the fact that she had disclosed to him that she had never seen pornography to a group of crew members.

I have no idea what the truth to these allegations is. Neither does anyone else on this thread. But this is what the case is about. It does not hinge on whether or not Lively appears to look uncomfortable in a few minutes of b-roll. That footage will be relevant to the case as it concerns one of her allegations. But the case does not revolve around it and if they can prove other allegations, it may not mater if the fact finder concludes that specific institute did not constitute harassment or contribute to hostile work environment.

Y'all are trying to litigate this case without discovery. It's dumb. We don't know! We also may never know if it settles out of court which it probably should, because figuring out the veracity of all of the forgoing allegations is going to be painful and unpleasant for all involved.

When you allege things happened a certain way in your complaint and then recordings of you and texts sent by you disprove that, you have ruined your credibility. That is what happened here.

Exactly. And people are ignoring one major red flag of the scene. Her team was not aware that it had audio. If Blake knew that he had his microphone on, and all their conversation was picked up, guarantee nothing in the scene would have been included because it absolutely does not hold up.

This absolutely damaged her credibility.

And then we are talking about this because this is just the latest. There are so many more she things. She blatantly implied in her suit that he went behind her back to ask her trainer about her weight. Then we find out she set justin up with her and Ryan’s trainer to help with his back problems. There are texts by the trainer, giving him a special program to help strengthen his back. He was talking to Blake’s trainer about his back problems in a way very much sanctioned by her. Certainly lifting her in a scene would be absolutely relevant to both of their safety.

Then we get all the texts about how worried she is about her body, and him being nothing but professional, comforting, telling her absolutely not to worry about it, they’re going to set it up in a way that’s going to make her comfortable.

I’ll say it again, it’s possible she felt uncomfortable for some things going on in this set. It seems like she created a lot of the chaos and she’s clearly taken so many things out of context so it’s hard to believe her about any of the other things.

If she has a case bring forward actual examples that show he was acting inappropriate. If there are five examples where he was, and you bring out five others where he wasn’t, it really is going to hurt your credibility.

On what planet is it ok to ask the trainer about her weight? It’s still inappropriate. Stop making excuses.

Disagree. Who cares. Grow up

Ok. Try asking your therapist, who your friend also sees, to dish on her and see how it goes. Grow up, indeed.

Lol you have to be joking. If you think a trainer has the same duty of confidentiality that a therapist or medical provider has, there is no point in arguing with you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is actually absurd is that people think her harassment case hangs on the interpretation of the one scene.

You can't prove OR disprove a hostile work environment claim by looking at one incident.

Did he enter her trailer unannounced while she was nursing or pumping? Did she ask him not to? Did he do it again?

Did Heath enter the makeup trailer while she was topless even after she asked him not to? Did she ask him to turn around? Did he?

Did Baldoni and Heath suddenly introduce the idea of Lively being fully nude for the birthing scene on the day of the shoot? Did they attempt to show her a video of a nude birth without her consent? Was Lively denied some kind of covering during the filming of the scene when asked? Was the set open or closed?

Did Lively make requests for the IC to be present in certain scenes and was this request respected? Did Baldoni make scenes more intimate or introduce nudity to scenes where it was not scripted, and fail to engage the IC or ensure Lively was giving consent to these changes?

Did Wayfarer properly obtain nudity riders from Lively for all nudity in the movie, and did the film follow contractual obligations of the rider?

Was the IC engaged following typical industry standards?

And then there are all these more minor allegations that could contribute to hostile work environment, if true. Like the allegation that Baldoni told Lively, on multiple occasions and even after she asked him not to, that he was communicating with her dead father. Or the allegation that Baldoni repeatedly discussed pornography with Lively even after she asked him not to, and made fun of the fact that she had disclosed to him that she had never seen pornography to a group of crew members.

I have no idea what the truth to these allegations is. Neither does anyone else on this thread. But this is what the case is about. It does not hinge on whether or not Lively appears to look uncomfortable in a few minutes of b-roll. That footage will be relevant to the case as it concerns one of her allegations. But the case does not revolve around it and if they can prove other allegations, it may not mater if the fact finder concludes that specific institute did not constitute harassment or contribute to hostile work environment.

Y'all are trying to litigate this case without discovery. It's dumb. We don't know! We also may never know if it settles out of court which it probably should, because figuring out the veracity of all of the forgoing allegations is going to be painful and unpleasant for all involved.

When you allege things happened a certain way in your complaint and then recordings of you and texts sent by you disprove that, you have ruined your credibility. That is what happened here.

Exactly. And people are ignoring one major red flag of the scene. Her team was not aware that it had audio. If Blake knew that he had his microphone on, and all their conversation was picked up, guarantee nothing in the scene would have been included because it absolutely does not hold up.

This absolutely damaged her credibility.

And then we are talking about this because this is just the latest. There are so many more she things. She blatantly implied in her suit that he went behind her back to ask her trainer about her weight. Then we find out she set justin up with her and Ryan’s trainer to help with his back problems. There are texts by the trainer, giving him a special program to help strengthen his back. He was talking to Blake’s trainer about his back problems in a way very much sanctioned by her. Certainly lifting her in a scene would be absolutely relevant to both of their safety.

Then we get all the texts about how worried she is about her body, and him being nothing but professional, comforting, telling her absolutely not to worry about it, they’re going to set it up in a way that’s going to make her comfortable.

I’ll say it again, it’s possible she felt uncomfortable for some things going on in this set. It seems like she created a lot of the chaos and she’s clearly taken so many things out of context so it’s hard to believe her about any of the other things.

If she has a case bring forward actual examples that show he was acting inappropriate. If there are five examples where he was, and you bring out five others where he wasn’t, it really is going to hurt your credibility.

On what planet is it ok to ask the trainer about her weight? It’s still inappropriate. Stop making excuses.

Disagree. Who cares. Grow up

Ok. Try asking your therapist, who your friend also sees, to dish on her and see how it goes. Grow up, indeed.

Lol you have to be joking. If you think a trainer has the same duty of confidentiality that a therapist or medical provider has, there is no point in arguing with you

Please. Just more evidence of what an unprofessional shit show this filming was. What more will we find out?

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that the majority of folks in this thread now appear convinced that Baldoni is going to be successful in his NYT suit is basically proof positive of bots, astroturfing or idiocy; I'm just not sure which one!

No one said he would win his law suit, several have said that the case would settle, which would means he gets money. There is simple no reason for the NY Times to take on the reputational risk of litigation, they are going to look bad even if they win.

Blake may not settle even though she should make this go away as soon as possible. But she has a personal interest in it, and the New York Times does not. A simple cost benefit analysis favors settlement for them, especially if they could settle for les than their litigation costs, or if the settlement is covered by insurance.

I actually think it's inconceivable that the NYT settles this.

Same.

A huge problem for Baldoni here is that he absolutely hired that PR firm and those texts are real. He's arguing libel. What is the defamation. That the texts look slightly less cruel if you put them in broader context? That's not a case.

I think a lot of people on this thread don't understand that the burden for a public person to prove against a newspaper are incredibly high. The law requires him to prove they published lies or intentionally mislead readers with malice (meaning on purpose with intent to harm). It's a high bar. Public people have to clear a higher hurdle than someone who is not famous because otherwise there would be a chilling effect on the press and they'd be afraid to publish anything about any notable person. Well that's most news.

He will not win. The paper will not settle. This is an easy one.

Baldoni is a public figure, of sorts. Were the PR ppl named in the NYT article? They are not public figures, right, and their correspondence was misleadingly (arguably) published.

Pp- you do realize Trump, the most public figure, just got a defamation settlement last month, right? The ignorance on here is shocking.


PR people are not public figures most likely. And as I’ve posted above, this is a legal call to be made by the judge. And the standard for private is negligence. The standard for public is not only actual malice, it is ‘reckless disregard for the truth’. A jury of everyday people will decide that, and if half the posters on here think the lofty NYT screwed up, don’t you think a jury might find this also.

People like PP who don’t know this area of the law should stop posting as if they know what they’re talking about because they took one media law class 20 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:What is actually absurd is that people think her harassment case hangs on the interpretation of the one scene.

You can't prove OR disprove a hostile work environment claim by looking at one incident.

Did he enter her trailer unannounced while she was nursing or pumping? Did she ask him not to? Did he do it again?

Did Heath enter the makeup trailer while she was topless even after she asked him not to? Did she ask him to turn around? Did he?

Did Baldoni and Heath suddenly introduce the idea of Lively being fully nude for the birthing scene on the day of the shoot? Did they attempt to show her a video of a nude birth without her consent? Was Lively denied some kind of covering during the filming of the scene when asked? Was the set open or closed?

Did Lively make requests for the IC to be present in certain scenes and was this request respected? Did Baldoni make scenes more intimate or introduce nudity to scenes where it was not scripted, and fail to engage the IC or ensure Lively was giving consent to these changes?

Did Wayfarer properly obtain nudity riders from Lively for all nudity in the movie, and did the film follow contractual obligations of the rider?

Was the IC engaged following typical industry standards?

And then there are all these more minor allegations that could contribute to hostile work environment, if true. Like the allegation that Baldoni told Lively, on multiple occasions and even after she asked him not to, that he was communicating with her dead father. Or the allegation that Baldoni repeatedly discussed pornography with Lively even after she asked him not to, and made fun of the fact that she had disclosed to him that she had never seen pornography to a group of crew members.

I have no idea what the truth to these allegations is. Neither does anyone else on this thread. But this is what the case is about. It does not hinge on whether or not Lively appears to look uncomfortable in a few minutes of b-roll. That footage will be relevant to the case as it concerns one of her allegations. But the case does not revolve around it and if they can prove other allegations, it may not mater if the fact finder concludes that specific institute did not constitute harassment or contribute to hostile work environment.

Y'all are trying to litigate this case without discovery. It's dumb. We don't know! We also may never know if it settles out of court which it probably should, because figuring out the veracity of all of the forgoing allegations is going to be painful and unpleasant for all involved.

When you allege things happened a certain way in your complaint and then recordings of you and texts sent by you disprove that, you have ruined your credibility. That is what happened here.

Exactly. And people are ignoring one major red flag of the scene. Her team was not aware that it had audio. If Blake knew that he had his microphone on, and all their conversation was picked up, guarantee nothing in the scene would have been included because it absolutely does not hold up.

This absolutely damaged her credibility.

And then we are talking about this because this is just the latest. There are so many more she things. She blatantly implied in her suit that he went behind her back to ask her trainer about her weight. Then we find out she set justin up with her and Ryan’s trainer to help with his back problems. There are texts by the trainer, giving him a special program to help strengthen his back. He was talking to Blake’s trainer about his back problems in a way very much sanctioned by her. Certainly lifting her in a scene would be absolutely relevant to both of their safety.

Then we get all the texts about how worried she is about her body, and him being nothing but professional, comforting, telling her absolutely not to worry about it, they’re going to set it up in a way that’s going to make her comfortable.

I’ll say it again, it’s possible she felt uncomfortable for some things going on in this set. It seems like she created a lot of the chaos and she’s clearly taken so many things out of context so it’s hard to believe her about any of the other things.

If she has a case bring forward actual examples that show he was acting inappropriate. If there are five examples where he was, and you bring out five others where he wasn’t, it really is going to hurt your credibility.

On what planet is it ok to ask the trainer about her weight? It’s still inappropriate. Stop making excuses.

On what planet would it not be appropriate to make sure it’s safe to lift her? He has a history of major back problems. 100% appropriate question and actually inappropriate not to for both their safety.

It’s hardly sexual harassment and it had nothing to do with him wanting her to lose weight. Absolutely ridiculous.

Nope. You're wrong on this. As if he knows that 135 is ok but 140 is absolutely not. What a nut bag.

Men have no concept of what women weigh. What makes you think he was wondering about a 5 pound difference.

And what would be the professional way to go about answering that serious question?

A lot of her accusations sound incomplete. Like, he hired his actor friend as the obgyn. Okay, so then what happened? Nothing. He behaved like a professional. Or, he asked my trainer how much I weighed for an upcoming lift sequence. Okay, so then what happened? Nothing. My husband chewed him out and then we didn’t do the lift scene. Or, he responded to me commenting on my body makeup with “it smells good?” Okay, then what happened? Nothing. He said “cut” and walked away. Or, this guy made eye contact with me when I had asked him to turn around. Okay, then what happened? He apologized profusely for making eye contact with me.

There’s clearly a pattern of her being sensitive about her body and of people responding to that sensitivity as best they can.

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Anonymous wrote:What is actually absurd is that people think her harassment case hangs on the interpretation of the one scene.

You can't prove OR disprove a hostile work environment claim by looking at one incident.

Did he enter her trailer unannounced while she was nursing or pumping? Did she ask him not to? Did he do it again?

Did Heath enter the makeup trailer while she was topless even after she asked him not to? Did she ask him to turn around? Did he?

Did Baldoni and Heath suddenly introduce the idea of Lively being fully nude for the birthing scene on the day of the shoot? Did they attempt to show her a video of a nude birth without her consent? Was Lively denied some kind of covering during the filming of the scene when asked? Was the set open or closed?

Did Lively make requests for the IC to be present in certain scenes and was this request respected? Did Baldoni make scenes more intimate or introduce nudity to scenes where it was not scripted, and fail to engage the IC or ensure Lively was giving consent to these changes?

Did Wayfarer properly obtain nudity riders from Lively for all nudity in the movie, and did the film follow contractual obligations of the rider?

Was the IC engaged following typical industry standards?

And then there are all these more minor allegations that could contribute to hostile work environment, if true. Like the allegation that Baldoni told Lively, on multiple occasions and even after she asked him not to, that he was communicating with her dead father. Or the allegation that Baldoni repeatedly discussed pornography with Lively even after she asked him not to, and made fun of the fact that she had disclosed to him that she had never seen pornography to a group of crew members.

I have no idea what the truth to these allegations is. Neither does anyone else on this thread. But this is what the case is about. It does not hinge on whether or not Lively appears to look uncomfortable in a few minutes of b-roll. That footage will be relevant to the case as it concerns one of her allegations. But the case does not revolve around it and if they can prove other allegations, it may not mater if the fact finder concludes that specific institute did not constitute harassment or contribute to hostile work environment.

Y'all are trying to litigate this case without discovery. It's dumb. We don't know! We also may never know if it settles out of court which it probably should, because figuring out the veracity of all of the forgoing allegations is going to be painful and unpleasant for all involved.

When you allege things happened a certain way in your complaint and then recordings of you and texts sent by you disprove that, you have ruined your credibility. That is what happened here.

Exactly. And people are ignoring one major red flag of the scene. Her team was not aware that it had audio. If Blake knew that he had his microphone on, and all their conversation was picked up, guarantee nothing in the scene would have been included because it absolutely does not hold up.

This absolutely damaged her credibility.

And then we are talking about this because this is just the latest. There are so many more she things. She blatantly implied in her suit that he went behind her back to ask her trainer about her weight. Then we find out she set justin up with her and Ryan’s trainer to help with his back problems. There are texts by the trainer, giving him a special program to help strengthen his back. He was talking to Blake’s trainer about his back problems in a way very much sanctioned by her. Certainly lifting her in a scene would be absolutely relevant to both of their safety.

Then we get all the texts about how worried she is about her body, and him being nothing but professional, comforting, telling her absolutely not to worry about it, they’re going to set it up in a way that’s going to make her comfortable.

I’ll say it again, it’s possible she felt uncomfortable for some things going on in this set. It seems like she created a lot of the chaos and she’s clearly taken so many things out of context so it’s hard to believe her about any of the other things.

If she has a case bring forward actual examples that show he was acting inappropriate. If there are five examples where he was, and you bring out five others where he wasn’t, it really is going to hurt your credibility.

On what planet is it ok to ask the trainer about her weight? It’s still inappropriate. Stop making excuses.

On what planet would it not be appropriate to make sure it’s safe to lift her? He has a history of major back problems. 100% appropriate question and actually inappropriate not to for both their safety.

It’s hardly sexual harassment and it had nothing to do with him wanting her to lose weight. Absolutely ridiculous.

Nope. You're wrong on this. As if he knows that 135 is ok but 140 is absolutely not. What a nut bag.

Men have no concept of what women weigh. What makes you think he was wondering about a 5 pound difference.

And what would be the professional way to go about answering that serious question?

A lot of her accusations sound incomplete. Like, he hired his actor friend as the obgyn. Okay, so then what happened? Nothing. He behaved like a professional. Or, he asked my trainer how much I weighed for an upcoming lift sequence. Okay, so then what happened? Nothing. My husband chewed him out and then we didn’t do the lift scene. Or, he responded to me commenting on my body makeup with “it smells good?” Okay, then what happened? Nothing. He said “cut” and walked away. Or, this guy made eye contact with me when I had asked him to turn around. Okay, then what happened? He apologized profusely for making eye contact with me.

There’s clearly a pattern of her being sensitive about her body and of people responding to that sensitivity as best they can.

Yes, gossiping behind her back with her trainer about her weight really doesn't do a lot to dispel that people weren't fat shaming.

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I feel like we’ve really lost the forest through the trees here and I’m going to say it again, some of these things just aren’t sexual harassment. They may be a hostile work environment or making people uncomfortable. But it’s not sexual harassment.

The whole mansplaining of the birth scene is actually not sexual harassment. It may be worthy of an eye roll, but it’s their right as directors and producers if they had a vision for the scene, to try to get that vision. Now, if they’re asking her to go beyond what is in her nudity rider and contract etc that is a different story. But it is not mansplaining to lay out a vision of a birth scene just because she’s given birth. It’s their job to lay out how they want the scene. Of course it’s great if they take her feedback and of course they should make sure she is comfortable, but I really feel like some of this context is getting lost.

She was not the director, and he seemed very collaborative and taking her input, whether he felt threatened or because he really wanted to, but it just seems like anytime she didn’t get her way it must be sexual harassment.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like we’ve really lost the forest through the trees here and I’m going to say it again, some of these things just aren’t sexual harassment. They may be a hostile work environment or making people uncomfortable. But it’s not sexual harassment.

The whole mansplaining of the birth scene is actually not sexual harassment. It may be worthy of an eye roll, but it’s their right as directors and producers if they had a vision for the scene, to try to get that vision. Now, if they’re asking her to go beyond what is in her nudity rider and contract etc that is a different story. But it is not mansplaining to lay out a vision of a birth scene just because she’s given birth. It’s their job to lay out how they want the scene. Of course it’s great if they take her feedback and of course they should make sure she is comfortable, but I really feel like some of this context is getting lost.

She was not the director, and he seemed very collaborative and taking her input, whether he felt threatened or because he really wanted to, but it just seems like anytime she didn’t get her way it must be sexual harassment.

And we should take your expert word for this because...?

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Anonymous wrote:What is actually absurd is that people think her harassment case hangs on the interpretation of the one scene.

You can't prove OR disprove a hostile work environment claim by looking at one incident.

Did he enter her trailer unannounced while she was nursing or pumping? Did she ask him not to? Did he do it again?

Did Heath enter the makeup trailer while she was topless even after she asked him not to? Did she ask him to turn around? Did he?

Did Baldoni and Heath suddenly introduce the idea of Lively being fully nude for the birthing scene on the day of the shoot? Did they attempt to show her a video of a nude birth without her consent? Was Lively denied some kind of covering during the filming of the scene when asked? Was the set open or closed?

Did Lively make requests for the IC to be present in certain scenes and was this request respected? Did Baldoni make scenes more intimate or introduce nudity to scenes where it was not scripted, and fail to engage the IC or ensure Lively was giving consent to these changes?

Did Wayfarer properly obtain nudity riders from Lively for all nudity in the movie, and did the film follow contractual obligations of the rider?

Was the IC engaged following typical industry standards?

And then there are all these more minor allegations that could contribute to hostile work environment, if true. Like the allegation that Baldoni told Lively, on multiple occasions and even after she asked him not to, that he was communicating with her dead father. Or the allegation that Baldoni repeatedly discussed pornography with Lively even after she asked him not to, and made fun of the fact that she had disclosed to him that she had never seen pornography to a group of crew members.

I have no idea what the truth to these allegations is. Neither does anyone else on this thread. But this is what the case is about. It does not hinge on whether or not Lively appears to look uncomfortable in a few minutes of b-roll. That footage will be relevant to the case as it concerns one of her allegations. But the case does not revolve around it and if they can prove other allegations, it may not mater if the fact finder concludes that specific institute did not constitute harassment or contribute to hostile work environment.

Y'all are trying to litigate this case without discovery. It's dumb. We don't know! We also may never know if it settles out of court which it probably should, because figuring out the veracity of all of the forgoing allegations is going to be painful and unpleasant for all involved.

When you allege things happened a certain way in your complaint and then recordings of you and texts sent by you disprove that, you have ruined your credibility. That is what happened here.

Exactly. And people are ignoring one major red flag of the scene. Her team was not aware that it had audio. If Blake knew that he had his microphone on, and all their conversation was picked up, guarantee nothing in the scene would have been included because it absolutely does not hold up.

This absolutely damaged her credibility.

And then we are talking about this because this is just the latest. There are so many more she things. She blatantly implied in her suit that he went behind her back to ask her trainer about her weight. Then we find out she set justin up with her and Ryan’s trainer to help with his back problems. There are texts by the trainer, giving him a special program to help strengthen his back. He was talking to Blake’s trainer about his back problems in a way very much sanctioned by her. Certainly lifting her in a scene would be absolutely relevant to both of their safety.

Then we get all the texts about how worried she is about her body, and him being nothing but professional, comforting, telling her absolutely not to worry about it, they’re going to set it up in a way that’s going to make her comfortable.

I’ll say it again, it’s possible she felt uncomfortable for some things going on in this set. It seems like she created a lot of the chaos and she’s clearly taken so many things out of context so it’s hard to believe her about any of the other things.

If she has a case bring forward actual examples that show he was acting inappropriate. If there are five examples where he was, and you bring out five others where he wasn’t, it really is going to hurt your credibility.

On what planet is it ok to ask the trainer about her weight? It’s still inappropriate. Stop making excuses.

On what planet would it not be appropriate to make sure it’s safe to lift her? He has a history of major back problems. 100% appropriate question and actually inappropriate not to for both their safety.

It’s hardly sexual harassment and it had nothing to do with him wanting her to lose weight. Absolutely ridiculous.

Nope. You're wrong on this. As if he knows that 135 is ok but 140 is absolutely not. What a nut bag.

Men have no concept of what women weigh. What makes you think he was wondering about a 5 pound difference.

And what would be the professional way to go about answering that serious question?

A lot of her accusations sound incomplete. Like, he hired his actor friend as the obgyn. Okay, so then what happened? Nothing. He behaved like a professional. Or, he asked my trainer how much I weighed for an upcoming lift sequence. Okay, so then what happened? Nothing. My husband chewed him out and then we didn’t do the lift scene. Or, he responded to me commenting on my body makeup with “it smells good?” Okay, then what happened? Nothing. He said “cut” and walked away. Or, this guy made eye contact with me when I had asked him to turn around. Okay, then what happened? He apologized profusely for making eye contact with me.

There’s clearly a pattern of her being sensitive about her body and of people responding to that sensitivity as best they can.

Yes, gossiping behind her back with her trainer about her weight really doesn't do a lot to dispel that people weren't fat shaming.

Why are you framing it as gossiping? Why are you implying that this normal weight woman is fat? And when did he use the info to fat shame her?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is actually absurd is that people think her harassment case hangs on the interpretation of the one scene.

You can't prove OR disprove a hostile work environment claim by looking at one incident.

Did he enter her trailer unannounced while she was nursing or pumping? Did she ask him not to? Did he do it again?

Did Heath enter the makeup trailer while she was topless even after she asked him not to? Did she ask him to turn around? Did he?

Did Baldoni and Heath suddenly introduce the idea of Lively being fully nude for the birthing scene on the day of the shoot? Did they attempt to show her a video of a nude birth without her consent? Was Lively denied some kind of covering during the filming of the scene when asked? Was the set open or closed?

Did Lively make requests for the IC to be present in certain scenes and was this request respected? Did Baldoni make scenes more intimate or introduce nudity to scenes where it was not scripted, and fail to engage the IC or ensure Lively was giving consent to these changes?

Did Wayfarer properly obtain nudity riders from Lively for all nudity in the movie, and did the film follow contractual obligations of the rider?

Was the IC engaged following typical industry standards?

And then there are all these more minor allegations that could contribute to hostile work environment, if true. Like the allegation that Baldoni told Lively, on multiple occasions and even after she asked him not to, that he was communicating with her dead father. Or the allegation that Baldoni repeatedly discussed pornography with Lively even after she asked him not to, and made fun of the fact that she had disclosed to him that she had never seen pornography to a group of crew members.

I have no idea what the truth to these allegations is. Neither does anyone else on this thread. But this is what the case is about. It does not hinge on whether or not Lively appears to look uncomfortable in a few minutes of b-roll. That footage will be relevant to the case as it concerns one of her allegations. But the case does not revolve around it and if they can prove other allegations, it may not mater if the fact finder concludes that specific institute did not constitute harassment or contribute to hostile work environment.

Y'all are trying to litigate this case without discovery. It's dumb. We don't know! We also may never know if it settles out of court which it probably should, because figuring out the veracity of all of the forgoing allegations is going to be painful and unpleasant for all involved.

When you allege things happened a certain way in your complaint and then recordings of you and texts sent by you disprove that, you have ruined your credibility. That is what happened here.

Exactly. And people are ignoring one major red flag of the scene. Her team was not aware that it had audio. If Blake knew that he had his microphone on, and all their conversation was picked up, guarantee nothing in the scene would have been included because it absolutely does not hold up.

This absolutely damaged her credibility.

And then we are talking about this because this is just the latest. There are so many more she things. She blatantly implied in her suit that he went behind her back to ask her trainer about her weight. Then we find out she set justin up with her and Ryan’s trainer to help with his back problems. There are texts by the trainer, giving him a special program to help strengthen his back. He was talking to Blake’s trainer about his back problems in a way very much sanctioned by her. Certainly lifting her in a scene would be absolutely relevant to both of their safety.

Then we get all the texts about how worried she is about her body, and him being nothing but professional, comforting, telling her absolutely not to worry about it, they’re going to set it up in a way that’s going to make her comfortable.

I’ll say it again, it’s possible she felt uncomfortable for some things going on in this set. It seems like she created a lot of the chaos and she’s clearly taken so many things out of context so it’s hard to believe her about any of the other things.

If she has a case bring forward actual examples that show he was acting inappropriate. If there are five examples where he was, and you bring out five others where he wasn’t, it really is going to hurt your credibility.

On what planet is it ok to ask the trainer about her weight? It’s still inappropriate. Stop making excuses.

On what planet would it not be appropriate to make sure it’s safe to lift her? He has a history of major back problems. 100% appropriate question and actually inappropriate not to for both their safety.

It’s hardly sexual harassment and it had nothing to do with him wanting her to lose weight. Absolutely ridiculous.

Nope. You're wrong on this. As if he knows that 135 is ok but 140 is absolutely not. What a nut bag.

Men have no concept of what women weigh. What makes you think he was wondering about a 5 pound difference.

And what would be the professional way to go about answering that serious question?

A lot of her accusations sound incomplete. Like, he hired his actor friend as the obgyn. Okay, so then what happened? Nothing. He behaved like a professional. Or, he asked my trainer how much I weighed for an upcoming lift sequence. Okay, so then what happened? Nothing. My husband chewed him out and then we didn’t do the lift scene. Or, he responded to me commenting on my body makeup with “it smells good?” Okay, then what happened? Nothing. He said “cut” and walked away. Or, this guy made eye contact with me when I had asked him to turn around. Okay, then what happened? He apologized profusely for making eye contact with me.

There’s clearly a pattern of her being sensitive about her body and of people responding to that sensitivity as best they can.

Yes, gossiping behind her back with her trainer about her weight really doesn't do a lot to dispel that people weren't fat shaming.

Why are you framing it as gossiping? Why are you implying that this normal weight woman is fat? And when did he use the info to fat shame her?

If she's a normal weight, what's the issue with lifting her? Asking her trainer her weight is BS.

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Confused about the weight discussion. If someone has back problems, I’d imagine a health professional might tell them they can’t lift above a specific amount. Am I wrong? I’m actually asking here. In which case it sounds reasonable to find out what someone actually weighs. It’s not like they’d tell someone they can’t lift someone who is fat, and Justin is asking her trainer, “Hey, is Blake actually fat?”