Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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We don't need media links reporting as secondary sources, when the primary sources (right wing online communities) are readily available and accessible.

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Anonymous wrote:He was an unhinged leftist and the people who are trying to paint him as a right winger should be ashamed. The only way to lower the temperature of our political climate is to have honest conversations about what is happening. People are becoming increasingly radicalized and justifying the use of violence. Something like this should have never happened and we need to make sure it doesn’t happen in the future. If your kid has a sudden interest in left wing politics then you need to view it as a red flag. Make sure they don’t have access to weapons and suggest that they go to therapy or start exercising.

There is absolutely nothing in his upbringing or internet/gaming usage that suggests he was a leftist. Just stop.

So what.

Go watch Adolescent mini series.

$hit loads of parents have no clue what their tweens and teens are doing online or during video games.

Self radicalization online for the win. Again.

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Anonymous wrote:The irony is the shooter thought Charlie Kirk was a fascist, like dcum. But Kirk supported free markets. Fascism is state control of private enterprise through regulation and taxation, a system the far left actually embraces. By definition, the shooter’s own politics were closer to fascism.

I, and many leftists, think Trump is fascist. It's really pretty obvious that he is. I don't support violence against Trump, Charlie Kirk, Venezuelan people in boats, Gazans, or anyone really.

The shooter thought Charlie Kirk was fascist. Because he was a follower of Nick Fuentes and a groyper who was in a small, radicalized online right wing incel crowd.

We both use the same word, but have very, very different philosophies.

Fuentes has never called Charlie a fascist. Nobody on the far right would use that term as a pejorative against someone who they think isn’t sufficiently right wing. That makes no sense.

Well, the shooter might just be out of his mind. And strengthened by an extremist online right wing community. Or, he might have written that on the bullet for some other reason. Probably someone will ask him at the trial and we'll know then.

Are you unaware of the extremist online left wing community?

Or just ignoring them?

DP.

I’d like an answer here too. And not some childish question posing as a response.

Are unsafe or just ignoring them? Can you answer the question?

I'm the person quoted. Show me who the leaders are of the online left community who have a similar level of support as Matthew Kirk did? Or the same kind of following as Nick Fuentes? Show me which have led a violent insurrection like the one that happened on January 6th.

Comparing the online radical left in the US with the online radical right in the US is comparing apples and oranges. One is violent, one isn't. One causes murders. One doesn't.

Matthew Kirk?

Sorry! Obviously Charlie Kirk.

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Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: Tyler Robinson’s Grandmother spoke with TheDailyMail, stating the family is “All MAGA” and “not a single Democrat”.

- TheDailyBeast

Tyler Robinson Spoke with Family About Charlie Kirk Before Assassination, Says Governor

Cox relayed the account of a family member, who said that during a family dinner prior to the shooting, Robinson had mentioned that Kirk was coming to Utah Valley University.

"They talked about why they didn’t like him and the viewpoints that he had,” the governor said, adding that the suspect said that "Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate."
https://people.com/tyler-robinson-had-talked-to-family-about-charlie-kirk-before-assassination-says-governor-11808767

Does Granny know that Tyler and another family member were discussing Kirk and their dislike for Kirk at a family dinner? And how a family member is quoted as saying Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate?

He was a disturbed young person poisoned by our current toxic political landscape. What granny says or what you and I think doesn't change that fact.

so granny is an unreliable source?

It’s hilarious how dcum liberals will twist themselves into pretzels trying to defend their position or further their fake narratives.

One minute, granny is being quoted by the Daily Beast. The next, her words are unworthy of any weight.

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Anonymous wrote:What he wrote on the shell casings and his comments about Charlie “spreading hate” confirm the shooters political beliefs. What do you have to gain by pretending that he wasn’t a leftist ?

I don’t think liberal would find issues with him being liberal because the idea that liberals would kill someone who is MAGA is not part of mainstream liberal thinking. Most liberals have MAGA family, which they view with concern and annoyance but murdering someone over politics is not ok. Only extreme fringe folks celebrated his death. Most liberals I know were horrified by his murder because murder is wrong. If he is liberal, justice should be served for Kirk’s murder.

But honestly, all evidence/posts seemed to be pointing groypers.

While I desperately wish you were right,

-41% of people under 30 approved of the murder of the healthcare CEO. A huge portion of our kids support this murder.
-22% of democrats said they approved of the United Healthcare CEO's murder. That's more than one in 5.

We dont yet know how the polls will go this time, Charlie Kirk was an explicitly political figure, so I'll make a prediction that approval rates for the murder of Charlie Kirk will be significantly higher among democrats than 22% . Even on this forum, leftist posters frequently post about how they wish that people who believe differently should be murdered. This is not a fringe view on the left. A substantial number of people on the left approve of violence. If you don't believe the polls, look anywhere, even on this thread. The sentiment is very much like, well, he was a bad guy so of course he was murdered. So while only a fringe of democrats would commit these acts, they have a loud cheering section behind them.

Charlie Kirk was a snake oil salesman who stood at Jan 6 th trying to over throw the government and install king Trump

Leftists are not taking guns and shouting up schools
Leftists didn’t kill Kirk or the Minnesota lawmakers

So are us your utterly pathetic crap

Twitter is 100 percent full of RW violence so is Truth social

Only one party put up gallows to hang the VP only one party has continuously lied to the American people to stand with Putin.

You are desperately trying to rewrite history and current events. Leftists have become violent it seems they are the ones overwhelmingly attacking others.

So it was a leftist who shot up a school yesterday and a leftist who assassinated and shot Minnesota politicians?

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Lovely

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In summary:

The hateful anti American Charlie Kirk was shot by the acolyte of a more hateful version of Charlie Kirk.

It wasn’t any of the imaginary bogeymen they were hoping for.

Just a case of them slowly drowning in their own hate.

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Anonymous wrote:We don't need media links reporting as secondary sources, when the primary sources (right wing online communities) are readily available and accessible.

Exactly. Old media is slow and irrelevant. Primary sources are better sources anyhow.

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jsteele wrote:David Shuster is a former MSNBC reporter:

and also a former Fox News reporter.

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Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: Tyler Robinson’s Grandmother spoke with TheDailyMail, stating the family is “All MAGA” and “not a single Democrat”.

- TheDailyBeast

Tyler Robinson Spoke with Family About Charlie Kirk Before Assassination, Says Governor

Cox relayed the account of a family member, who said that during a family dinner prior to the shooting, Robinson had mentioned that Kirk was coming to Utah Valley University.

"They talked about why they didn’t like him and the viewpoints that he had,” the governor said, adding that the suspect said that "Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate."
https://people.com/tyler-robinson-had-talked-to-family-about-charlie-kirk-before-assassination-says-governor-11808767

Does Granny know that Tyler and another family member were discussing Kirk and their dislike for Kirk at a family dinner? And how a family member is quoted as saying Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate?

He was a disturbed young person poisoned by our current toxic political landscape. What granny says or what you and I think doesn't change that fact.

so granny is an unreliable source?

It’s hilarious how dcum liberals will twist themselves into pretzels trying to defend their position or further their fake narratives.

One minute, granny is being quoted by the Daily Beast. The next, her words are unworthy of any weight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We don't need media links reporting as secondary sources, when the primary sources (right wing online communities) are readily available and accessible.

WHAT RIGHT WING ONLINE COMMUNITY?

Post a link from a reputable source.

You don’t know the shooter, so any guesses you make are your theories.

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Anonymous wrote:In summary:

The hateful anti American Charlie Kirk was shot by the acolyte of a more hateful version of Charlie Kirk.

It wasn’t any of the imaginary bogeymen they were hoping for.

Just a case of them slowly drowning in their own hate.

True.

And yet, I feel no schadenfreude. Just sadness for what our discourse and our democracy have become.

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Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: Tyler Robinson’s Grandmother spoke with TheDailyMail, stating the family is “All MAGA” and “not a single Democrat”.

- TheDailyBeast

Tyler Robinson Spoke with Family About Charlie Kirk Before Assassination, Says Governor

Cox relayed the account of a family member, who said that during a family dinner prior to the shooting, Robinson had mentioned that Kirk was coming to Utah Valley University.

"They talked about why they didn’t like him and the viewpoints that he had,” the governor said, adding that the suspect said that "Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate."
https://people.com/tyler-robinson-had-talked-to-family-about-charlie-kirk-before-assassination-says-governor-11808767

Does Granny know that Tyler and another family member were discussing Kirk and their dislike for Kirk at a family dinner? And how a family member is quoted as saying Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate?

Are you saying that a maga couldn’t dislike Kirk? This really is a cult, huh?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: Tyler Robinson’s Grandmother spoke with TheDailyMail, stating the family is “All MAGA” and “not a single Democrat”.

- TheDailyBeast

Tyler Robinson Spoke with Family About Charlie Kirk Before Assassination, Says Governor

Cox relayed the account of a family member, who said that during a family dinner prior to the shooting, Robinson had mentioned that Kirk was coming to Utah Valley University.

"They talked about why they didn’t like him and the viewpoints that he had,” the governor said, adding that the suspect said that "Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate."
https://people.com/tyler-robinson-had-talked-to-family-about-charlie-kirk-before-assassination-says-governor-11808767

Does Granny know that Tyler and another family member were discussing Kirk and their dislike for Kirk at a family dinner? And how a family member is quoted as saying Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate?

He was a disturbed young person poisoned by our current toxic political landscape. What granny says or what you and I think doesn't change that fact.

so granny is an unreliable source?

It’s hilarious how dcum liberals will twist themselves into pretzels trying to defend their position or further their fake narratives.

One minute, granny is being quoted by the Daily Beast. The next, her words are unworthy of any weight.

What are you taking about granny was maga she said he was too !

Stop lying you un American idiot

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans are in denial that anyone doing something bad could ever be a Republican. No find the real criminal. Surely it’s a black or a transgender or if it is this person he is a demoncrat.

Utah Governor Spencer Cox said a family member interviewed by investigators stated that Robinson had become "more political" in recent years.
The relative also said that during a dinner conversation before the attack, Robinson had stated Kirk "was full of hate and spreading hate" and mentioned Kirk's upcoming event at Utah Valley University, according to Cox.
"They talked about why they didn't like him and the viewpoints that he had," Cox said referring to the conversation.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8wl2y66p9o.amp

Meanwhile, other casings could be interpreted as sympathetic to Antifa, or the anti-fascist movement, a loose collection of far-left activists who have been active in the US over the last decade and often demonstrate against Trump policies and far-right groups.
One unfired casing had the words "Hey fascist! Catch!" and an up, right and three down arrows.
The three down arrows alone could be a common symbol used for anti-fascism. As a whole, the arrows could reference a sequence of control inputs in a video game - although this remains unclear, and authorities have not yet released images of the casings.
A second casing was inscribed with lyrics to the song "Bella Ciao" that honours World War Two-era partisans of the Italian resistance who fought Nazi Germany.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8wl2y66p9o.amp

So this young person got caught up in the divisiveness and hate pushed and spread by our two major political parties as party of their greater agenda to control their sheep. Most of us knew this was the case when we heard a political activist was shot in cold blood.

Which political party spews about fascism 24/7/365?

Turn off the Fox/MSNBC, take a deep breath, and get out to talk to real people. Our political parties are doing their best to generate hate but the American people are better than this. We all need to act like grown ups.

Democrats constantly talk about Trump/republicans being fascist. I don’t see that on tv. i see it on this forum.

What is the definition of fascism and compare that to the actions taken by the Trump administration and then let us see your notes.