Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:What we need is an objective leader, someone who is not swayed or influenced by either side. This is our only way out of this mess. Block out the noise and take control. Maybe this shooter was trying to prove a point, Kirk mentioned collateral damage from guns, fitting now that he is one of the thousands of victims of gun violence.

This country hasn't had a legitimate leader since January of 2017 so there is something behind what you're saying.

We have had two elected Presidents since then, like them or not. They were legitimately elected. Can't use cute clever phrases to change history

Being legitimately elected doesn't make you someone with legitimate presidential leadership skills. The recent two are an insult to those who came before them.

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Anonymous wrote:The irony is the shooter thought Charlie Kirk was a fascist, like dcum. But Kirk supported free markets. Fascism is state control of private enterprise through regulation and taxation, a system the far left actually embraces. By definition, the shooter’s own politics were closer to fascism.

I, and many leftists, think Trump is fascist. It's really pretty obvious that he is. I don't support violence against Trump, Charlie Kirk, Venezuelan people in boats, Gazans, or anyone really.

The shooter thought Charlie Kirk was fascist. Because he was a follower of Nick Fuentes and a groyper who was in a small, radicalized online right wing incel crowd.

We both use the same word, but have very, very different philosophies.

Fuentes has never called Charlie a fascist. Nobody on the far right would use that term as a pejorative against someone who they think isn’t sufficiently right wing. That makes no sense.

Well, the shooter might just be out of his mind. And strengthened by an extremist online right wing community. Or, he might have written that on the bullet for some other reason. Probably someone will ask him at the trial and we'll know then.

Are you unaware of the extremist online left wing community?

Or just ignoring them?

Are ignoring the RWNJ who murdered the Minnesota Rep and her husband?

Near the scene at Hortman’s home, authorities say they found an SUV made to look like those used by law enforcement. Inside they found fliers for a local anti-Trump “No Kings” rally scheduled for Saturday and a notebook with names of other lawmakers. The list also included the names of abortion rights advocates and health care officials, according to two law enforcement officials who could not discuss details of the ongoing investigation and spoke to AP on condition of anonymity.

More anonymous sources.

Well, in the end, we learned a lot more about Vance Boelter through court documents.

You seem curious about him.

Here's an article with some info:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/14/us/politics/minnesota-shootings-gunman-suspect.html

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile it's confirmed the shooter from Colorado shared white supremacists views online.

https://www.denverpost.com/2025/09/11/evergreen-high-school-shooting-colorado-updates/amp/

I think we need to give up the computer and cellphones for children.

Shooter was 22. But maybe we just kill the internet for everyone, I think it has done more harm than good

Sad to say it, but Chinese communists and authoritarians in Russia maybe have gotten it right - the internet needs vastly more guardrails and maybe the govt needs to seriously think about blocking access to social media. Social media is a cancer that is destroying society. It is being wepaonized by our foreign adversaries agaiant us. Vastly more control over social media isn’t incompatible with democracy. Countries like Britain to Australia ate making it much harder to access social media now, especially for minors.

Democrats have been trying to put rules and guardrails on for years only to be stymied by the libertarians of the right.

It’s becoming more obvious that it is self radicalization causing the problems. We need some regulation it’s gone too far now.

If it happens on the right, it is self radicalization (or mental health). Otherwise it is the fault of the lunatic left.

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Anonymous wrote:The shooter followed Laura Loomer on X. But sure, he was a leftist.

The shooter was a cold blooded killer. The people who have been brainwashed by the messaging of our two political parties are either idiots or temporary idiots who need to snap out of it.

So, you're saying that no one who is a killer has political beliefs? That motivate them to kill? Tell that to all of the members of armies in the world.

There are many, many, many politically brainwashed fools out there still identifying as Republicans and Democrats. When they commit murder, they are murderers first and foremost but yes the divisive culture of hate our two parties have created is very mush so a related problem.

Ok, we get it socialism is the answer, right?

I was thinking a little more love and a lot less hate. A little more talking to our fellow American citizens and a lot less listening to half truth news sources who have an agenda to divide the American people. Just saying.

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Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: Tyler Robinson’s Grandmother spoke with TheDailyMail, stating the family is “All MAGA” and “not a single Democrat”.

- TheDailyBeast

Tyler Robinson Spoke with Family About Charlie Kirk Before Assassination, Says Governor

Cox relayed the account of a family member, who said that during a family dinner prior to the shooting, Robinson had mentioned that Kirk was coming to Utah Valley University.

"They talked about why they didn’t like him and the viewpoints that he had,” the governor said, adding that the suspect said that "Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate."
https://people.com/tyler-robinson-had-talked-to-family-about-charlie-kirk-before-assassination-says-governor-11808767

Does Granny know that Tyler and another family member were discussing Kirk and their dislike for Kirk at a family dinner? And how a family member is quoted as saying Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate?

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Anonymous wrote:The irony is the shooter thought Charlie Kirk was a fascist, like dcum. But Kirk supported free markets. Fascism is state control of private enterprise through regulation and taxation, a system the far left actually embraces. By definition, the shooter’s own politics were closer to fascism.

I, and many leftists, think Trump is fascist. It's really pretty obvious that he is. I don't support violence against Trump, Charlie Kirk, Venezuelan people in boats, Gazans, or anyone really.

The shooter thought Charlie Kirk was fascist. Because he was a follower of Nick Fuentes and a groyper who was in a small, radicalized online right wing incel crowd.

We both use the same word, but have very, very different philosophies.

Fuentes has never called Charlie a fascist. Nobody on the far right would use that term as a pejorative against someone who they think isn’t sufficiently right wing. That makes no sense.

Well, the shooter might just be out of his mind. And strengthened by an extremist online right wing community. Or, he might have written that on the bullet for some other reason. Probably someone will ask him at the trial and we'll know then.

Are you unaware of the extremist online left wing community?

Or just ignoring them?

Are you unaware of the extremist online right wing community?

Or just ignoring them?

No, both sides have extreme online communities.

You only mentioned the right wing community. Why didn’t you mention both extremes?

Because we're discussing the murder of Charlie Kirk and today we learned that his murderer was part of an extremist right wing community. So they're on topic.

Source and link that the shooter was part of an extremist right wing community?

Show us where that information is being reported?

Do a Google search

No, provide evidence for your claim from a reputable news organization or law enforcement source.

Where did you find this information?

You do have a reputable source you are quoting, right?

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Anonymous wrote:The irony is the shooter thought Charlie Kirk was a fascist, like dcum. But Kirk supported free markets. Fascism is state control of private enterprise through regulation and taxation, a system the far left actually embraces. By definition, the shooter’s own politics were closer to fascism.

I, and many leftists, think Trump is fascist. It's really pretty obvious that he is. I don't support violence against Trump, Charlie Kirk, Venezuelan people in boats, Gazans, or anyone really.

The shooter thought Charlie Kirk was fascist. Because he was a follower of Nick Fuentes and a groyper who was in a small, radicalized online right wing incel crowd.

We both use the same word, but have very, very different philosophies.

Fuentes has never called Charlie a fascist. Nobody on the far right would use that term as a pejorative against someone who they think isn’t sufficiently right wing. That makes no sense.

Well, the shooter might just be out of his mind. And strengthened by an extremist online right wing community. Or, he might have written that on the bullet for some other reason. Probably someone will ask him at the trial and we'll know then.

Are you unaware of the extremist online left wing community?

Or just ignoring them?

DP.

I’d like an answer here too. And not some childish question posing as a response.

Are unsafe or just ignoring them? Can you answer the question?

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Anonymous wrote:What we know about Robinson
At the press conference, Cox said Robinson had become "more political in recent years."

Robinson mentioned during a dinner conversation with a family member that Kirk would be visiting Utah Valley University, according to Cox. Robinson and the family members discussed why they didn't like Kirk and his viewpoints, and the family member stated Kirk was "full of hate and spreading hate," Cox said.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/tyler-robinson-charlie-kirk-suspect-shooter-utah/story?id=125474359

If the suspect was a MAGA, why did he think Kirk was spreading hate?

Perhaps because he was indeed spreading hate?

I have family members who are MAGA. They do indeed have a moral compass and are against the spreading of hate.

From the guardian Suspect's high school classmate says Robinson was the only 'leftist' in a family of 'very hard' Republicans
Anna Betts

In a phone interview on Friday, someone who said they were friends with Robinson in high school, who wanted to remain anonymous, said that the suspect was “pretty left on everything” and was “the only member of his family that was really leftist”.

“The rest of his family was very hard Republican,” the friend said.

Around sophomore year, the friend said, Robinson became more extreme in his political views and would “always just be ranting and arguing about them”.

The friend said that they played video games together a lot in high school and noted that the bullet engraving with the arrows was a reference to Helldivers 2 – which we mentioned earlier. He said that the arrows specifically were in reference to “calling in a big bomb that exists” in the game “called the 500 kilogram”.

When the friend saw the news on Friday, he said that he was shocked. “I knew he [Robinson] had strong political views, but I never thought it would even go near that far.”

The friend said that he has not spoken to Robinson in years and began to drift apart toward the end of high school. Another high school classmate separately told the Guardian that the friend and Robinson were close in school and would play video games.

Oh wow. A former high school classmate that hasn't seen him for years. Case cracked wide open.

So what evidence has the news reported other than this that you have read? Post the link.

Absolutely hilarious that MAGAs are trusting an anonymous source in the Guardian.

Absolutely hilarious democrats aren’t trusting an anonymous source in the Guardian.

They trust every anonymous source otherwise.

Democrats do not trust every anonymous source.

The source--if a liar trying to shape narrative--would indeed go to a left leaning paper to establish credibility

The reporter would verify they were speaking to a credible person before they published the news story.

Ok newspaperman, what does that mean?

Do you think journalists don’t verify their sources as credible before publishing a news story?

Why don’t you call CNN with your groyper theory and get it published?

All you gotta do is contact a reporter and they will take down your theory and publish it immediately, right?

They can verify if the witness knew the shooter and went to school with him. They cannot verify that what he is saying about the shooter is true. That is why the witness and his statement itself is the "news", not that oh wow we now resllt know the shooter's political thoughts. We don't.

And everyone is forgetting the shooter is still alive, with a voice.

And he hasn’t said anything yet. But everyone here is making up theories about groyper and Nick F. Where is the verified information for those posts?

With zero evidence the president and a bunch of nuts made up a narrative about some imaginary leftist. Now that things are trickling out they are refusing accept it like they often do when presented with evidence (see vaccines, immigrant crime, etc) so people push more. Here we are.

So post links to the credible sources.

What is trickling in?

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Anonymous wrote:The irony is the shooter thought Charlie Kirk was a fascist, like dcum. But Kirk supported free markets. Fascism is state control of private enterprise through regulation and taxation, a system the far left actually embraces. By definition, the shooter’s own politics were closer to fascism.

I, and many leftists, think Trump is fascist. It's really pretty obvious that he is. I don't support violence against Trump, Charlie Kirk, Venezuelan people in boats, Gazans, or anyone really.

The shooter thought Charlie Kirk was fascist. Because he was a follower of Nick Fuentes and a groyper who was in a small, radicalized online right wing incel crowd.

We both use the same word, but have very, very different philosophies.

Fuentes has never called Charlie a fascist. Nobody on the far right would use that term as a pejorative against someone who they think isn’t sufficiently right wing. That makes no sense.

Well, the shooter might just be out of his mind. And strengthened by an extremist online right wing community. Or, he might have written that on the bullet for some other reason. Probably someone will ask him at the trial and we'll know then.

Are you unaware of the extremist online left wing community?

Or just ignoring them?

Are you unaware of the extremist online right wing community?

Or just ignoring them?

No, both sides have extreme online communities.

You only mentioned the right wing community. Why didn’t you mention both extremes?

DP Because the shooter came from the extreme right wing online community.

The extreme left wing online community goes after JK Rowling.

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Anonymous wrote:The irony is the shooter thought Charlie Kirk was a fascist, like dcum. But Kirk supported free markets. Fascism is state control of private enterprise through regulation and taxation, a system the far left actually embraces. By definition, the shooter’s own politics were closer to fascism.

I, and many leftists, think Trump is fascist. It's really pretty obvious that he is. I don't support violence against Trump, Charlie Kirk, Venezuelan people in boats, Gazans, or anyone really.

The shooter thought Charlie Kirk was fascist. Because he was a follower of Nick Fuentes and a groyper who was in a small, radicalized online right wing incel crowd.

We both use the same word, but have very, very different philosophies.

Fuentes has never called Charlie a fascist. Nobody on the far right would use that term as a pejorative against someone who they think isn’t sufficiently right wing. That makes no sense.

Well, the shooter might just be out of his mind. And strengthened by an extremist online right wing community. Or, he might have written that on the bullet for some other reason. Probably someone will ask him at the trial and we'll know then.

Are you unaware of the extremist online left wing community?

Or just ignoring them?

DP.

I’d like an answer here too. And not some childish question posing as a response.

Are unsafe or just ignoring them? Can you answer the question?

I'm the person quoted. Show me who the leaders are of the online left community who have a similar level of support as Matthew Kirk did? Or the same kind of following as Nick Fuentes? Show me which have led a violent insurrection like the one that happened on January 6th.

Comparing the online radical left in the US with the online radical right in the US is comparing apples and oranges. One is violent, one isn't. One causes murders. One doesn't.

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Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: Tyler Robinson’s Grandmother spoke with TheDailyMail, stating the family is “All MAGA” and “not a single Democrat”.

- TheDailyBeast

Tyler Robinson Spoke with Family About Charlie Kirk Before Assassination, Says Governor

Cox relayed the account of a family member, who said that during a family dinner prior to the shooting, Robinson had mentioned that Kirk was coming to Utah Valley University.

"They talked about why they didn’t like him and the viewpoints that he had,” the governor said, adding that the suspect said that "Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate."
https://people.com/tyler-robinson-had-talked-to-family-about-charlie-kirk-before-assassination-says-governor-11808767

Does Granny know that Tyler and another family member were discussing Kirk and their dislike for Kirk at a family dinner? And how a family member is quoted as saying Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate?

He was a disturbed young person poisoned by our current toxic political landscape. What granny says or what you and I think doesn't change that fact.

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Anonymous wrote:One thing is very clear: the reaction of a huge swath of the left, who celebrated and cheered Kirk's assassination.

Kirk was the "nice guy" that allegedly the left wanted to debate. And yet he was killed... and the left celebrated, cheered, and put out t-shirts. This site is full of "Kirk said stuff so it's good he was killed!" type posts.

And people have noticed the reaction of the left. And noticed just how gleeful and celebratory the left was when someone who holds beliefs the vast majority of Americans hold, such as "DEI is bad" and "men in dresses do not belong in women's sports" was killed.

It's patently obvious it is not just Kirk that the left wants dead. The reaction by leftists has made it crystal clear.

His debates were staged and cherrypicked and he refused to debate anyone with a brain. Bad faith actor.

That said I no longer give a crap what you think and want to say about the left, because it's all completely irrelevant now that we know the guy who shot him wasn't even a leftist, he's an alt-right groyper, as seen in the memes that the shooter embraced. That's right, the shooter was not a "deranged leftist" - he was to the right of Charlie Kirk. The groypers view Kirk as a sellout, and as a fake conservative.

That seems to be the new talking point - shooter’s motive doesn’t matter, what really matters is the celebrating lefties who hate America and must be stopped

There's no "new talking point" - it's just you idiots with your same old bogus talking point of "blame everything on the left" even when all indications now are that the shooter was alt-right. When your stale talking point doesn't comport with reality you complain and accuse others of changing the narrative, when in fact it was yours that was wrong all along.

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DCUM is the original realtime BS creator

You must realize that it’s not just DCUM, right? If you have down time, you can watch as the same nonsense argument hits Reddit and DCUM at the same time. I’m sure twitter and whatever Trump’s twitter is called get the same crap at the same time too.

Yeah and DCUM has been around for 25+ years so is the “original realtime BS creator”.

Get it now?

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Dcum democrats responses when asked for links from reputable news organization or law enforcement sources to support their claims:

1. “Google it.”
2. “Everybody knows!”
3. “It was posted earlier!”
4. “My neighbor’s dog posted it in the group chat, and then got on a rollercoaster, so he’s not available to explain further!”

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Anonymous wrote:The irony is the shooter thought Charlie Kirk was a fascist, like dcum. But Kirk supported free markets. Fascism is state control of private enterprise through regulation and taxation, a system the far left actually embraces. By definition, the shooter’s own politics were closer to fascism.

I, and many leftists, think Trump is fascist. It's really pretty obvious that he is. I don't support violence against Trump, Charlie Kirk, Venezuelan people in boats, Gazans, or anyone really.

The shooter thought Charlie Kirk was fascist. Because he was a follower of Nick Fuentes and a groyper who was in a small, radicalized online right wing incel crowd.

We both use the same word, but have very, very different philosophies.

Fuentes has never called Charlie a fascist. Nobody on the far right would use that term as a pejorative against someone who they think isn’t sufficiently right wing. That makes no sense.

Well, the shooter might just be out of his mind. And strengthened by an extremist online right wing community. Or, he might have written that on the bullet for some other reason. Probably someone will ask him at the trial and we'll know then.

Are you unaware of the extremist online left wing community?

Or just ignoring them?

DP.

I’d like an answer here too. And not some childish question posing as a response.

Are unsafe or just ignoring them? Can you answer the question?

I'm the person quoted. Show me who the leaders are of the online left community who have a similar level of support as Matthew Kirk did? Or the same kind of following as Nick Fuentes? Show me which have led a violent insurrection like the one that happened on January 6th.

Comparing the online radical left in the US with the online radical right in the US is comparing apples and oranges. One is violent, one isn't. One causes murders. One doesn't.

Matthew Kirk?

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Anonymous wrote:What he wrote on the shell casings and his comments about Charlie “spreading hate” confirm the shooters political beliefs. What do you have to gain by pretending that he wasn’t a leftist ?

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