Johnny Depp trial in Fairfax County

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A Fairfax County jury, likely mostly Democrats, unanimously voted that Amber Heard defamed Johnny Depp.

Can't turn this into some "Maga," Trump, "right wing" thing. It's a Fairfax County thing.

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Anonymous wrote:OK, so I’ve been very critical of Amber, and I agree with the verdict.

But I also think that the right thing for Johnny to do now is to make sure that she doesn’t have to pay him that money.

He’s won and gotten what he said he wanted: his “life back.” He doesn’t need the money, and she’s clearly a very sick woman with some severe mental health issues. She can’t pay, and she isn’t likely to get another movie role that will allow her to pay. Her mental health issues (BPD) mean that, as was shown in the trial, she can’t keep friends and is largely alone with her illness. And she has a baby.

I think the only right think for Johnny to do now is to ensure she doesn’t have to pay, urge his fans to leave her alone, and move on with his life and career.

I will be very disappointed in him if that doesn’t happen.

She still has the 7million from the divorce.

Right? Unless she spent it all. But how? She had Musk paying for things at one point and she also got paid for aquaman. Where did all her money go?

How much do you think these teams of lawyers cost? She lives in a modest house by celebrity standards ~800k, doesn't seem to live an extravagant life at all.

It's already been reported and confirmed that she accessed her home owner's insurance policy and the insurance company is paying her legal fees. I wonder if the insurance adjuster refused to make an offer before trial.

Doubt Depp would have accepted an offer bc he wanted to be able to tell his story. It wasn't about winning money from AH. A settlement agreement would have placed restrictions on what he would have been able to say.

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He didn’t need to pursue this trial to “get his life back” or whatever that means. The verdict is wrong regardless of whether she lied. He’s vindictive and should not work in major films again.

He should work in any major film as pong as people want to cast him and watch him. Luckily, you don’t have any saying.

Either do you. Considering Disney released him from pirates without knowledge of the op-ed, major studios are not interested in an alcoholic, drug addicted man. Add on his abusive behavior and they are right to steer clear.

He'll be back in movies. He's very much in demand now. He's riding a popularity wave.

Maybe right wing propaganda movies

Right wing propaganda? Have you heard him speak about politics?

I’m aware of his politics but his fans are magats. Plenty of posters here are regurgitating talking points created by right wing shows celebrating and promoting backlash against #metoo.

You with that was true, but it ain't

Too bad about your horrible grammar. What are you even saying? Do you know?

Just laughing at your poor reasoning: "his fans are magats".

Not my quite you’re referring to. … Reading comprehension also a challenge?

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Anonymous wrote:OK, so I’ve been very critical of Amber, and I agree with the verdict.

But I also think that the right thing for Johnny to do now is to make sure that she doesn’t have to pay him that money.

He’s won and gotten what he said he wanted: his “life back.” He doesn’t need the money, and she’s clearly a very sick woman with some severe mental health issues. She can’t pay, and she isn’t likely to get another movie role that will allow her to pay. Her mental health issues (BPD) mean that, as was shown in the trial, she can’t keep friends and is largely alone with her illness. And she has a baby.

I think the only right think for Johnny to do now is to ensure she doesn’t have to pay, urge his fans to leave her alone, and move on with his life and career.

I will be very disappointed in him if that doesn’t happen.

She still has the 7million from the divorce.

Right? Unless she spent it all. But how? She had Musk paying for things at one point and she also got paid for aquaman. Where did all her money go?

How much do you think these teams of lawyers cost? She lives in a modest house by celebrity standards ~800k, doesn't seem to live an extravagant life at all.

It's already been reported and confirmed that she accessed her home owner's insurance policy and the insurance company is paying her legal fees. I wonder if the insurance adjuster refused to make an offer before trial.

Doubt Depp would have accepted an offer bc he wanted to be able to tell his story. It wasn't about winning money from AH. A settlement agreement would have placed restrictions on what he would have been able to say.

If he didn’t actually care about damages, and if he somehow declines the damages, can he be accused of frivolously filing a claim and abusing court time and resources? Basically if he was just petulant and wanted to do this as a public tar and feathering of AH? Talk about abusive! He tried to get the whole world to abuse her!

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why there were all the audio recordings? Of AH and JD fighting? Who was taking those recordings and why?

JD. Because, in AH own words on one recording, no jury would ever believe he was abused by her.

This response is why there are so many people on JD’s side. They are ignorant of the facts. Hopefully she is able to appeal this verdict and show the world the rest of the evidence. What a horrifying task to have to do.

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Anonymous wrote:OK, so I’ve been very critical of Amber, and I agree with the verdict.

But I also think that the right thing for Johnny to do now is to make sure that she doesn’t have to pay him that money.

He’s won and gotten what he said he wanted: his “life back.” He doesn’t need the money, and she’s clearly a very sick woman with some severe mental health issues. She can’t pay, and she isn’t likely to get another movie role that will allow her to pay. Her mental health issues (BPD) mean that, as was shown in the trial, she can’t keep friends and is largely alone with her illness. And she has a baby.

I think the only right think for Johnny to do now is to ensure she doesn’t have to pay, urge his fans to leave her alone, and move on with his life and career.

I will be very disappointed in him if that doesn’t happen.

She still has the 7million from the divorce.

Right? Unless she spent it all. But how? She had Musk paying for things at one point and she also got paid for aquaman. Where did all her money go?

How much do you think these teams of lawyers cost? She lives in a modest house by celebrity standards ~800k, doesn't seem to live an extravagant life at all.

It's already been reported and confirmed that she accessed her home owner's insurance policy and the insurance company is paying her legal fees. I wonder if the insurance adjuster refused to make an offer before trial.

Doubt Depp would have accepted an offer bc he wanted to be able to tell his story. It wasn't about winning money from AH. A settlement agreement would have placed restrictions on what he would have been able to say.

If he didn’t actually care about damages, and if he somehow declines the damages, can he be accused of frivolously filing a claim and abusing court time and resources? Basically if he was just petulant and wanted to do this as a public tar and feathering of AH? Talk about abusive! He tried to get the whole world to abuse her!

His claims were not, by legal definition, "frivolous," as he prevailed on them after an extensive jury trial. You don't "decline" damages. You either try to collect them, or you don't.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why there were all the audio recordings? Of AH and JD fighting? Who was taking those recordings and why?

JD. Because, in AH own words on one recording, no jury would ever believe he was abused by her.

This response is why there are so many people on JD’s side. They are ignorant of the facts. Hopefully she is able to appeal this verdict and show the world the rest of the evidence. What a horrifying task to have to do.

So you're saying Amber recorded herself telling JD that? I heard the recording during the trial.

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Anonymous wrote:OK, so I’ve been very critical of Amber, and I agree with the verdict.

But I also think that the right thing for Johnny to do now is to make sure that she doesn’t have to pay him that money.

He’s won and gotten what he said he wanted: his “life back.” He doesn’t need the money, and she’s clearly a very sick woman with some severe mental health issues. She can’t pay, and she isn’t likely to get another movie role that will allow her to pay. Her mental health issues (BPD) mean that, as was shown in the trial, she can’t keep friends and is largely alone with her illness. And she has a baby.

I think the only right think for Johnny to do now is to ensure she doesn’t have to pay, urge his fans to leave her alone, and move on with his life and career.

I will be very disappointed in him if that doesn’t happen.

there are a number of very serious issues for appeal. The judge treated this like a criminal trial and excluded significant evidence. The instruction on retweeting was wrong.

So yes he should agree not to seek the money in exchange for her dropping appeal. We all have had enough.

Why was the judge allowed to treat this case like a criminal trial? How did she get it so wrong?

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why there were all the audio recordings? Of AH and JD fighting? Who was taking those recordings and why?

JD. Because, in AH own words on one recording, no jury would ever believe he was abused by her.

This response is why there are so many people on JD’s side. They are ignorant of the facts. Hopefully she is able to appeal this verdict and show the world the rest of the evidence. What a horrifying task to have to do.

So you're saying Amber recorded herself telling JD that? I heard the recording during the trial.

Is there a place early on in the trial where any lawyer side explains this to the jury? As for each recording, who was recording, which parties knew they were being recorded, and were they labeled as such in evidence clearly for the jurors? JD could easily have said or not said things to color how he came off on the recordings, as could AH have.

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He didn’t need to pursue this trial to “get his life back” or whatever that means. The verdict is wrong regardless of whether she lied. He’s vindictive and should not work in major films again.

He should work in any major film as pong as people want to cast him and watch him. Luckily, you don’t have any saying.

Either do you. Considering Disney released him from pirates without knowledge of the op-ed, major studios are not interested in an alcoholic, drug addicted man. Add on his abusive behavior and they are right to steer clear.

He'll be back in movies. He's very much in demand now. He's riding a popularity wave.

Maybe right wing propaganda movies

Right wing propaganda? Have you heard him speak about politics?

I’m aware of his politics but his fans are magats. Plenty of posters here are regurgitating talking points created by right wing shows celebrating and promoting backlash against #metoo.

You with that was true, but it ain't

Too bad about your horrible grammar. What are you even saying? Do you know?

Just laughing at your poor reasoning: "his fans are magats".

Not my quite you’re referring to. … Reading comprehension also a challenge?

Not quite, grammar police

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, so I’ve been very critical of Amber, and I agree with the verdict.

But I also think that the right thing for Johnny to do now is to make sure that she doesn’t have to pay him that money.

He’s won and gotten what he said he wanted: his “life back.” He doesn’t need the money, and she’s clearly a very sick woman with some severe mental health issues. She can’t pay, and she isn’t likely to get another movie role that will allow her to pay. Her mental health issues (BPD) mean that, as was shown in the trial, she can’t keep friends and is largely alone with her illness. And she has a baby.

I think the only right think for Johnny to do now is to ensure she doesn’t have to pay, urge his fans to leave her alone, and move on with his life and career.

I will be very disappointed in him if that doesn’t happen.

there are a number of very serious issues for appeal. The judge treated this like a criminal trial and excluded significant evidence. The instruction on retweeting was wrong.

So yes he should agree not to seek the money in exchange for her dropping appeal. We all have had enough.

Why was the judge allowed to treat this case like a criminal trial? How did she get it so wrong?

She didn’t. Amber-stans are grasping at straws. Judges have wide discretion in how they manage cases. Both sides had evidence excluded. The lawyers agreed on jury instructions. I don’t think an appeal will go anywhere. Not only that Amber’s side refused to pay to sequester the jury. They had the opportunity and said no (the sides would have to split the cost of that).

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why there were all the audio recordings? Of AH and JD fighting? Who was taking those recordings and why?

JD. Because, in AH own words on one recording, no jury would ever believe he was abused by her.

This response is why there are so many people on JD’s side. They are ignorant of the facts. Hopefully she is able to appeal this verdict and show the world the rest of the evidence. What a horrifying task to have to do.

So you're saying Amber recorded herself telling JD that? I heard the recording during the trial.

Is there a place early on in the trial where any lawyer side explains this to the jury? As for each recording, who was recording, which parties knew they were being recorded, and were they labeled as such in evidence clearly for the jurors? JD could easily have said or not said things to color how he came off on the recordings, as could AH have.

Yes, whichever side enters the evidence has to give context for it and the other side has a chance to provide their own context afterwards. However, both sides had a lot of evidence/context the judge determined wasn’t legally appropriate to enter so I guess that’s what PP means? I didn’t find any redeeming context for AH’s “I didn’t punch you I just hit you” (wtf?!) but perhaps it does exist. Ditto video evidence of JD smashing cabinets. Nothing that appeared in the trial made either of those recorded incidents less reprehensible to me.

And some of the recording was taken by AH secretly (I think this is valid if she thinks she’s being abused tbh) but a lot of the recordings of their arguments were a mutually consensual situation as part of their marital therapy. At least according to what was presented in the trial which is all I’ve been tracking.

[Anonymous]

I don’t see this surviving an appeal. But I also think that Johnny has already accomplished what he set out to do which is getting his side out.

I think he is way to dumpy and unattractive now to be a movie star again but what do I know.

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Anonymous wrote:OK, so I’ve been very critical of Amber, and I agree with the verdict.

But I also think that the right thing for Johnny to do now is to make sure that she doesn’t have to pay him that money.

He’s won and gotten what he said he wanted: his “life back.” He doesn’t need the money, and she’s clearly a very sick woman with some severe mental health issues. She can’t pay, and she isn’t likely to get another movie role that will allow her to pay. Her mental health issues (BPD) mean that, as was shown in the trial, she can’t keep friends and is largely alone with her illness. And she has a baby.

I think the only right think for Johnny to do now is to ensure she doesn’t have to pay, urge his fans to leave her alone, and move on with his life and career.

I will be very disappointed in him if that doesn’t happen.

She still has the 7million from the divorce.

Right? Unless she spent it all. But how? She had Musk paying for things at one point and she also got paid for aquaman. Where did all her money go?

How much do you think these teams of lawyers cost? She lives in a modest house by celebrity standards ~800k, doesn't seem to live an extravagant life at all.

Didn't we hear her insurance is paying for her lawyers and experts?

Yes. Her homeowner’s policy is paying for her defense. In fact the Vice President of Travelers Insurance (her insurance provider) has been seen with Heard and in the courtroom sitting on her side.

Is this real? How is this possible?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, so I’ve been very critical of Amber, and I agree with the verdict.

But I also think that the right thing for Johnny to do now is to make sure that she doesn’t have to pay him that money.

He’s won and gotten what he said he wanted: his “life back.” He doesn’t need the money, and she’s clearly a very sick woman with some severe mental health issues. She can’t pay, and she isn’t likely to get another movie role that will allow her to pay. Her mental health issues (BPD) mean that, as was shown in the trial, she can’t keep friends and is largely alone with her illness. And she has a baby.

I think the only right think for Johnny to do now is to ensure she doesn’t have to pay, urge his fans to leave her alone, and move on with his life and career.

I will be very disappointed in him if that doesn’t happen.

She still has the 7million from the divorce.

Right? Unless she spent it all. But how? She had Musk paying for things at one point and she also got paid for aquaman. Where did all her money go?

How much do you think these teams of lawyers cost? She lives in a modest house by celebrity standards ~800k, doesn't seem to live an extravagant life at all.

Didn't we hear her insurance is paying for her lawyers and experts?

Yes. Her homeowner’s policy is paying for her defense. In fact the Vice President of Travelers Insurance (her insurance provider) has been seen with Heard and in the courtroom sitting on her side.

Is this real? How is this possible?

Yeah how does homeowners insurance cover legal fees for a defamation case?