Gaza war and College Campus Protests

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Anonymous wrote:Mustafa (not his real name), an anti-Hamas activist in his mid-30s living in Gaza who agreed to speak to The Times of Israel by email on condition of total anonymity, described life in the isolated enclave under the rule of Hamas and the Israeli blockade as an “open-air prison.”

Mustafa said that with over 70% youth unemployment and an average per capita income per day of NIS 20, or $5.5, intermittent access to electricity, and undrinkable tap water, life in the enclave is barely livable for the vast majority of citizens who are not somehow tied to Hamas.

Leaving the Strip requires at least $10,000 to be smuggled out illegally, with high chances of dying on the way to freedom, he added. This is all because “Gazan civilians are exploited as a pawn in a struggle between regional forces, and Hamas uses its citizens as human shields to defend its project of ‘Islamic resistance’ while it silences and threatens to kill any opposition,” he continued.

A professional who describes himself as a “liberal and a democrat” interested in “humanitarian issues and free citizenship,” Mustafa estimated that the current wave of demonstrations has only just begun, since in his view the protesters’ demands are not limited to electricity, but aimed at ultimately overthrowing “the military regime and the rule of the clerics.”

With regard to relations with the neighboring Jewish state, Mustafa expressed his wish for a Palestinian government with “new, clear and rational policies toward Israel and the occupation army, without regional alliances,” referring to Iran’s support for Hamas and other radical groups.

“The Israeli side looks at us as terrorists, not as people with dreams and aspirations,” Mustafa said. “But the reality is quite different: Most of the people of Gaza are innocent civilians living in dire humanitarian conditions. They only dream of a decent life, freedom, justice, peace and democratic elections.

“This is why people took to the streets. To demand their most basic rights, an improvement in their living conditions, an end to poverty, unemployment, the lack of water and electricity, and to protest the imposition of power by force, being silenced and spied on,” he said.

“You can divide the people of Gaza in two: a large majority living under the poverty line, and a small ruling elite affiliated with Hamas and other Islamist factions, who live off the funding received by the ‘resistance,’” he added.

From his personal perspective as a peace activist, Mustafa said that “these demonstrations do not come out of thin air.” In his words, they express the “conviction of the Gazan people that peace is the solution. Gazans want an end to the occupation and the Israeli siege, and they want an end to the bloodshed that has been going on for so many years.”

I don't really understand the relationship between Gaza and the West Bank. before this conflict, could Gazans have opted to live in the West Bank?

It’s much easier to move to Israel or Egypt than it is to move from gaza to the West Bank. With Egypt, you’ll just need cash to bribe an Egyptian soldier or truck driver to smuggle you over.

If a Palestinian wants to apply to move to Israel, they have to forfeit traveling to west bank or Gaza ever again and note that some things are illegal in Israel like raising a Palestinian flag or mentioning the Nakba.

You’d be surprised how many Palestinians are ok with this if it means their safety is guaranteed in Israel from Israeli bombs or Palestinian corruption.

So the situation is a splintered community impossible of making one unified state which perfectly serves israel. People in Gaza are in Gaza and have never seen the WB Palestinians outside of Facebook and people in the WB have never seen the Gazans and the Israeli Palestinians are the biggest oddities of all as they don’t see anybody as they have to say they are Arab and aren’t allowed to say Palestinian. They have to say they’re Israeli. Their communications in Israel are also all monitored.

The Hamas leaders have family members inside Israel as it’s not unusual these days for many Palestinians to have Israeli family members. Haniyehs sisters lived in Israel and his nephews even were in the idf.

It’s not unusual for certain parts of families to just never see each other in person anymore (only via email and social media communication) because one man of a family decided to permanently move his fam to Israel and work there

What is this magical application process for Palestinians to move to Israel? Are you on drugs? Are you aware Israelis married to Palestinians can’t even bring their spouses to live together and Israel? But hallelujah, there is a secret source on DCUM that knows it’s easy. Tell us!

I didn’t say it’s easy. I said it’s easier for a Palestinian to move to Israel or to Egypt than to the West Bank.

To move to Israel, they have to permanently forfeit that they’re Palestinian and if they move to Egypt, that also helps Israel because they won’t return. The idea of Israel is to erase the Palestinian identity and the idea that it deserves any state at all.

It’s not even easy to go from one West Bank town to another these days because of the settlements. The entire mentality of Israel is Palestine doesn’t exist, didn’t exist, and shouldn’t exist as a continuous state and allowing cross border entry from Gaza to the WB to ans fro is impossible. Therefore, Palestine as a state can’t even be a functional country that can succeed

I’m gonna be real blunt : there is no legal process for a Palestinian to move to Israel. I don’t know what you’re on about but there just isn’t.

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The second antisemitism report from Columbia was hard to read. How awful.

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Anonymous wrote:Mustafa (not his real name), an anti-Hamas activist in his mid-30s living in Gaza who agreed to speak to The Times of Israel by email on condition of total anonymity, described life in the isolated enclave under the rule of Hamas and the Israeli blockade as an “open-air prison.”

Mustafa said that with over 70% youth unemployment and an average per capita income per day of NIS 20, or $5.5, intermittent access to electricity, and undrinkable tap water, life in the enclave is barely livable for the vast majority of citizens who are not somehow tied to Hamas.

Leaving the Strip requires at least $10,000 to be smuggled out illegally, with high chances of dying on the way to freedom, he added. This is all because “Gazan civilians are exploited as a pawn in a struggle between regional forces, and Hamas uses its citizens as human shields to defend its project of ‘Islamic resistance’ while it silences and threatens to kill any opposition,” he continued.

A professional who describes himself as a “liberal and a democrat” interested in “humanitarian issues and free citizenship,” Mustafa estimated that the current wave of demonstrations has only just begun, since in his view the protesters’ demands are not limited to electricity, but aimed at ultimately overthrowing “the military regime and the rule of the clerics.”

With regard to relations with the neighboring Jewish state, Mustafa expressed his wish for a Palestinian government with “new, clear and rational policies toward Israel and the occupation army, without regional alliances,” referring to Iran’s support for Hamas and other radical groups.

“The Israeli side looks at us as terrorists, not as people with dreams and aspirations,” Mustafa said. “But the reality is quite different: Most of the people of Gaza are innocent civilians living in dire humanitarian conditions. They only dream of a decent life, freedom, justice, peace and democratic elections.

“This is why people took to the streets. To demand their most basic rights, an improvement in their living conditions, an end to poverty, unemployment, the lack of water and electricity, and to protest the imposition of power by force, being silenced and spied on,” he said.

“You can divide the people of Gaza in two: a large majority living under the poverty line, and a small ruling elite affiliated with Hamas and other Islamist factions, who live off the funding received by the ‘resistance,’” he added.

From his personal perspective as a peace activist, Mustafa said that “these demonstrations do not come out of thin air.” In his words, they express the “conviction of the Gazan people that peace is the solution. Gazans want an end to the occupation and the Israeli siege, and they want an end to the bloodshed that has been going on for so many years.”

I don't really understand the relationship between Gaza and the West Bank. before this conflict, could Gazans have opted to live in the West Bank?

It’s much easier to move to Israel or Egypt than it is to move from gaza to the West Bank. With Egypt, you’ll just need cash to bribe an Egyptian soldier or truck driver to smuggle you over.

If a Palestinian wants to apply to move to Israel, they have to forfeit traveling to west bank or Gaza ever again and note that some things are illegal in Israel like raising a Palestinian flag or mentioning the Nakba.

You’d be surprised how many Palestinians are ok with this if it means their safety is guaranteed in Israel from Israeli bombs or Palestinian corruption.

So the situation is a splintered community impossible of making one unified state which perfectly serves israel. People in Gaza are in Gaza and have never seen the WB Palestinians outside of Facebook and people in the WB have never seen the Gazans and the Israeli Palestinians are the biggest oddities of all as they don’t see anybody as they have to say they are Arab and aren’t allowed to say Palestinian. They have to say they’re Israeli. Their communications in Israel are also all monitored.

The Hamas leaders have family members inside Israel as it’s not unusual these days for many Palestinians to have Israeli family members. Haniyehs sisters lived in Israel and his nephews even were in the idf.

It’s not unusual for certain parts of families to just never see each other in person anymore (only via email and social media communication) because one man of a family decided to permanently move his fam to Israel and work there

What is this magical application process for Palestinians to move to Israel? Are you on drugs? Are you aware Israelis married to Palestinians can’t even bring their spouses to live together and Israel? But hallelujah, there is a secret source on DCUM that knows it’s easy. Tell us!

I didn’t say it’s easy. I said it’s easier for a Palestinian to move to Israel or to Egypt than to the West Bank.

To move to Israel, they have to permanently forfeit that they’re Palestinian and if they move to Egypt, that also helps Israel because they won’t return. The idea of Israel is to erase the Palestinian identity and the idea that it deserves any state at all.

It’s not even easy to go from one West Bank town to another these days because of the settlements. The entire mentality of Israel is Palestine doesn’t exist, didn’t exist, and shouldn’t exist as a continuous state and allowing cross border entry from Gaza to the WB to ans fro is impossible. Therefore, Palestine as a state can’t even be a functional country that can succeed

I’m gonna be real blunt : there is no legal process for a Palestinian to move to Israel. I don’t know what you’re on about but there just isn’t.

I guess I'm wondering how Gaza will ever "succeed" even if rebuilt. Seems like it's a bombed out concrete strip riddled with toxic waste and tunnels. Better to resettle everyone there somewhere more hospitable- like the West Bank? And then they could consolidate power and identity a little more, hopefully with more moderate leadership and education than under Hamas. I'm fine with handing over illegal settlements in the WB to Gazans, and give Gaza Strip to the illegal settler types to rebuild I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:Mustafa (not his real name), an anti-Hamas activist in his mid-30s living in Gaza who agreed to speak to The Times of Israel by email on condition of total anonymity, described life in the isolated enclave under the rule of Hamas and the Israeli blockade as an “open-air prison.”

Mustafa said that with over 70% youth unemployment and an average per capita income per day of NIS 20, or $5.5, intermittent access to electricity, and undrinkable tap water, life in the enclave is barely livable for the vast majority of citizens who are not somehow tied to Hamas.

Leaving the Strip requires at least $10,000 to be smuggled out illegally, with high chances of dying on the way to freedom, he added. This is all because “Gazan civilians are exploited as a pawn in a struggle between regional forces, and Hamas uses its citizens as human shields to defend its project of ‘Islamic resistance’ while it silences and threatens to kill any opposition,” he continued.

A professional who describes himself as a “liberal and a democrat” interested in “humanitarian issues and free citizenship,” Mustafa estimated that the current wave of demonstrations has only just begun, since in his view the protesters’ demands are not limited to electricity, but aimed at ultimately overthrowing “the military regime and the rule of the clerics.”

With regard to relations with the neighboring Jewish state, Mustafa expressed his wish for a Palestinian government with “new, clear and rational policies toward Israel and the occupation army, without regional alliances,” referring to Iran’s support for Hamas and other radical groups.

“The Israeli side looks at us as terrorists, not as people with dreams and aspirations,” Mustafa said. “But the reality is quite different: Most of the people of Gaza are innocent civilians living in dire humanitarian conditions. They only dream of a decent life, freedom, justice, peace and democratic elections.

“This is why people took to the streets. To demand their most basic rights, an improvement in their living conditions, an end to poverty, unemployment, the lack of water and electricity, and to protest the imposition of power by force, being silenced and spied on,” he said.

“You can divide the people of Gaza in two: a large majority living under the poverty line, and a small ruling elite affiliated with Hamas and other Islamist factions, who live off the funding received by the ‘resistance,’” he added.

From his personal perspective as a peace activist, Mustafa said that “these demonstrations do not come out of thin air.” In his words, they express the “conviction of the Gazan people that peace is the solution. Gazans want an end to the occupation and the Israeli siege, and they want an end to the bloodshed that has been going on for so many years.”

I don't really understand the relationship between Gaza and the West Bank. before this conflict, could Gazans have opted to live in the West Bank?

It’s much easier to move to Israel or Egypt than it is to move from gaza to the West Bank. With Egypt, you’ll just need cash to bribe an Egyptian soldier or truck driver to smuggle you over.

If a Palestinian wants to apply to move to Israel, they have to forfeit traveling to west bank or Gaza ever again and note that some things are illegal in Israel like raising a Palestinian flag or mentioning the Nakba.

You’d be surprised how many Palestinians are ok with this if it means their safety is guaranteed in Israel from Israeli bombs or Palestinian corruption.

So the situation is a splintered community impossible of making one unified state which perfectly serves israel. People in Gaza are in Gaza and have never seen the WB Palestinians outside of Facebook and people in the WB have never seen the Gazans and the Israeli Palestinians are the biggest oddities of all as they don’t see anybody as they have to say they are Arab and aren’t allowed to say Palestinian. They have to say they’re Israeli. Their communications in Israel are also all monitored.

The Hamas leaders have family members inside Israel as it’s not unusual these days for many Palestinians to have Israeli family members. Haniyehs sisters lived in Israel and his nephews even were in the idf.

It’s not unusual for certain parts of families to just never see each other in person anymore (only via email and social media communication) because one man of a family decided to permanently move his fam to Israel and work there

What is this magical application process for Palestinians to move to Israel? Are you on drugs? Are you aware Israelis married to Palestinians can’t even bring their spouses to live together and Israel? But hallelujah, there is a secret source on DCUM that knows it’s easy. Tell us!

I didn’t say it’s easy. I said it’s easier for a Palestinian to move to Israel or to Egypt than to the West Bank.

To move to Israel, they have to permanently forfeit that they’re Palestinian and if they move to Egypt, that also helps Israel because they won’t return. The idea of Israel is to erase the Palestinian identity and the idea that it deserves any state at all.

It’s not even easy to go from one West Bank town to another these days because of the settlements. The entire mentality of Israel is Palestine doesn’t exist, didn’t exist, and shouldn’t exist as a continuous state and allowing cross border entry from Gaza to the WB to ans fro is impossible. Therefore, Palestine as a state can’t even be a functional country that can succeed

I’m gonna be real blunt : there is no legal process for a Palestinian to move to Israel. I don’t know what you’re on about but there just isn’t.

I guess I'm wondering how Gaza will ever "succeed" even if rebuilt. Seems like it's a bombed out concrete strip riddled with toxic waste and tunnels. Better to resettle everyone there somewhere more hospitable- like the West Bank? And then they could consolidate power and identity a little more, hopefully with more moderate leadership and education than under Hamas. I'm fine with handing over illegal settlements in the WB to Gazans, and give Gaza Strip to the illegal settler types to rebuild I guess.

Maybe they should go back to Europe.

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Anonymous wrote:Another American brutally murdered by Hamas… And yet we still don’t have American boots on the ground assisting the IDF in their vital mission.

A change in administration cannot come quick enough for our Israeli American population.

You are either Israeli or American. Go fight with your own blood and sons please.

My son moved to Israel and joined the IDF on October 8th, 2024. I have never been prouder of him. He is currently in the front lines making the Hamas pay.

That does not excuse our government’s abandonment of our closest international ally, Jewish people globally, and our own American citizens.

Let’s hope he’s doing what you say he’s doing and not making TikToks wearing stolen red panties.

American citizens should not be fighting in foreign armies. Your son is an Israeli now. We owe him nothing.

We owe Palestinians nothing. They elected a death cult to lead them. Choices have consequences.

Very few of the people alive today voted for Hamas

A majority of Palestines support Hamas. They support a terrorist group that id avowed to kill Jews and eradicate Israel and is a proxy for Iran. Choices have consequences.

The average Palestinian woman in Gaza has more than 6 children. They are obviously very wealthy to afford such large families. They don't need anyone's help. It's like helping Trump or Elon Musk with all their children. Barron Trump didn't vote for Republicans. Doesn't mean I owe Barron Trump anything.

Birth rate in Gaza is 3.38 children per woman. You lying moron.

According to the UN, it was 6.2 per woman in the early 2000s. Which is why there are so many young children in Gaza today. The decline to 3.38 is much more recent, but that's still well above twice the global norm. In any even, Palestinians in Gaza have a lot of children, much, much more than is normal than any other corner of the world.

ANY other corner of the world? Like more than in Saudi Arabia? More than in Nigeria?

Listen moron, there is no such thing as “the global norm” when it comes to procreation. And if there was, perhaps you can let your Israeli friends know? That’s one corner of the world that seems to be breeding like rabbits.

Meanwhile, in Iraq, girls as young as 9 can be married but boys must be at least 15.

What does Iraq have to do with the Palestinians where that’s certainly not a rule there? Iraq was destroyed and sand blasted into the Middle Ages thanks to you fooling the US with fake news about WMD’s.

And Israel is worse than the Vatican with pedophilia. It’s almost a convict immigration hub. Any Jewish convict from anywhere in the world can use the “law of return” (isnt it racist to have closed borders or do blood or lineage tests for immigration?) and start a new life in Israel. Israel is a country for criminals

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Israel is mother of corruption, sadness, and war in the entire region. There isn’t any war in the Eastern Europe or Middle East region that had nothing to do with Israel.

Even now, Israel has its hand in the Armenia and Azerbaijan war and Zelensky is a Jewish scam Artist destroying the country for Blackrock. I hear they’re looking to take over Ukraine after Palestine

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This is the talent that Israel has.

Creating problems

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Are they happy Putin made sure 10/7 happened by working with Hamas?

If they were given the entire world to themselves and no non Jews even existed, they’d fight each other on1.

There’s no such thing as no fighting or no war in the Israeli identity and it’s not because everybody hates them. Everybody likes them and they were wealthy in Europe and the Middle East above Christian’s and Muslims but they don’t like others and don’t know how to play fair because they believe in racism

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On day 1*

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They’ve made their suffering paramount over anyone else’s in the world.

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I’m glad Hamas is copying them and using the victim Olympics for global sympathy and favor. They finally lived long enough among them to learn the playbook

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Unfortunately for Israel Sinwar spent his years studying Jewish history not Quran or Islamic studies in jail. This is why they have a hard time this time because he’s got their number and used to befriend the Israeli guards and ask them questions feigning as a fangirl of Jewish people.

You would think Israel would release the 5 year olds and grandmothers they have in custody instead of terrorists but Israel is only half as smart as they think themselves to be

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Why would they ever release that guy from prison? And they call themselves the smart ones

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Why even keep him alive and fed in prison? They don’t keep newborns alive

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Over 10 Iranian nuclear scientists and physicists killed by Israel over the past decade..

Why not invade them already? Why wait for the Us to do the dirty work?