Fairfax County Double Murder

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Anonymous wrote:When the paramedics arrived, was the little girl still in the basement all by herself!?

Right??? I want to know this to, I cannot believe these disgusting people had the girl locked (I presume she was locked because otherwise wouldn't she have been curious about why they left her there for so long?) in the basement while they were dong this. It's the most horrific part of it all, IMO.

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Anonymous wrote:That's not just a "knife" --- that's a meat cleaver! And the reporter says that BB used that meat cleaver to kill CB. So, if the reporter's retelling of what prosecutors said is accurate, prosecutors don't think CB was stabbed earlier that morning... they say that BB first shot JR, and then BB took the knife/meat cleaver that JR brought and stabbed CB in the neck.

The "knife" that they show isn't the kind of sharp pointy knife that I was expecting. It's the kind of knife that you CHOP things with. Or slice things. But it's not really a stabbing-kind of "knife". It's a slitting-kind of knife.

If CB was conscious when JR was shot, then maybe there was, in fact, an arrangement to play out a scene that CB knew about. (of course she didn't know that BB was actually going to use the playtime to kill two people, and she didn't know that JM would be waiting at the door with another gun).

That not a meat cleaver, in the culinary world it’s called a utility knife. Flat edge . Meat cleavers are larger

In shape it resembles a Japanese santoku

It is much smaller.

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Anonymous wrote:That's not just a "knife" --- that's a meat cleaver! And the reporter says that BB used that meat cleaver to kill CB. So, if the reporter's retelling of what prosecutors said is accurate, prosecutors don't think CB was stabbed earlier that morning... they say that BB first shot JR, and then BB took the knife/meat cleaver that JR brought and stabbed CB in the neck.

The "knife" that they show isn't the kind of sharp pointy knife that I was expecting. It's the kind of knife that you CHOP things with. Or slice things. But it's not really a stabbing-kind of "knife". It's a slitting-kind of knife.

If CB was conscious when JR was shot, then maybe there was, in fact, an arrangement to play out a scene that CB knew about. (of course she didn't know that BB was actually going to use the playtime to kill two people, and she didn't know that JM would be waiting at the door with another gun).

That not a meat cleaver, in the culinary world it’s called a utility knife. Flat edge . Meat cleavers are larger

In shape it resembles a Japanese santoku

It is much smaller.

Who knew we had so many meat cleaver/kitchen knife experts on this board.

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a couple points about the photos here:

https://www.dcnewsnow.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/14/2024/09/Brendan-Banfield-Court-Documents.pdf


Page 2. Not a very flattering photo of Julianna.

Page 3 Juliannas shooting stance looks pretty bad. She's back on her heels.

Page 5. Brenden didn't get the Glock blue label discount for the purchase of the 43x. Glock offers law enforcement officers a blue label price of a little under 400 bucks for the Glock 43x mos. oof.

Page 6. A photo of a knife, a rope and a chain. Anyone else notice anything conspicuously absent from the photo? I doubt this is the murder weapon. the pictured knife looks very clean.

the knife is shown with blood on it, on the floor at the foot of the bed, in the Post article

https://www.washingtonpost.com/crime-law/2024/09/04/herndon-au-pair-affair-trial/

It’s possible that what is shown in the picture was staged by the accused. It doesn’t necessarily mean that that was the knife used in the murder.

I don’t know what the respective pictures are supposed to represent. I do know that bb is remarkably bad at criming.

My man wasn’t an agent long enough to learn that. Three people can keep a secret if two are dead?

JM has done better than one might expect. Only little slips along the way. (That we know of).

Bb is in a rough spot and he knows it. He’s going away until he’s a feeble old man, if not forever. He deserves everything coming to him

He won’t last all that long. Prison ages a person quickly.

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Anonymous wrote:When the paramedics arrived, was the little girl still in the basement all by herself!?

Right??? I want to know this to, I cannot believe these disgusting people had the girl locked (I presume she was locked because otherwise wouldn't she have been curious about why they left her there for so long?) in the basement while they were dong this. It's the most horrific part of it all, IMO.

Killing 2 people in cold blood is pretty horrific too, imho.

What was any of it even for? Thrill kills? They were arrested and will go away for a very long time. They were already carrying on prior, trips together, etc. And then you've got TB, defo OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW BETTER, witness tampering while being recorded in FFX jail. Maybe all 3 are so dumb they thought the'd get away with it. Almost no one does. And that BB has been talking about doing this for years takes the cake. What a silver tongued devil he is.

Joe, Christine, little girl with no mom, Joe's mom, you all deserved so much better.

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Y'all know that the picture of the knife/chain/rope was not showing the knife that was used as a murder weapon, right? That image was submitted as evidence along with a bunch of photos that were taken after Juliana was arrested - they are the photos that showed that she had moved out of her bedroom into the master bedroom, and that she had a new Brazilian passport, that Brendan was learning Portuguese, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Y'all know that the picture of the knife/chain/rope was not showing the knife that was used as a murder weapon, right? That image was submitted as evidence along with a bunch of photos that were taken after Juliana was arrested - they are the photos that showed that she had moved out of her bedroom into the master bedroom, and that she had a new Brazilian passport, that Brendan was learning Portuguese, etc.

So that all was her “toys”?

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Anonymous wrote:Y'all know that the picture of the knife/chain/rope was not showing the knife that was used as a murder weapon, right? That image was submitted as evidence along with a bunch of photos that were taken after Juliana was arrested - they are the photos that showed that she had moved out of her bedroom into the master bedroom, and that she had a new Brazilian passport, that Brendan was learning Portuguese, etc.

Photos taken of her having moved into the master described her lingerie on bed and draped around room. Those photos were taken in October.

Other photos submitted at the hearing were taken the day of the killings per WP and article aslo states prosecutors allege knife was staged between JR and CB.

This may describe the photo of chains, etc. on a bed. WP also stated that BB re-packed the backpack. May explain why no blood on knife.

Clingan said Ryan and the partner — not discussing whether it was Christine Banfield or someone posing as her — had some online chats in which Ryan sent photos of the devices he would bring, to include belts, zip ties, and a knife to cut someone’s pajamas off. At the scene, police found a set of cleanly cut pajamas on the bedroom floor, Clingan said.

https://x.com/talan/status/1840719792359051754

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Anonymous wrote:Y'all know that the picture of the knife/chain/rope was not showing the knife that was used as a murder weapon, right? That image was submitted as evidence along with a bunch of photos that were taken after Juliana was arrested - they are the photos that showed that she had moved out of her bedroom into the master bedroom, and that she had a new Brazilian passport, that Brendan was learning Portuguese, etc.

So that all was her “toys”?

No. PP is conflating photos taken months apart.

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In FFX will the transcript be available to the public at the courthouse or does it have to be ordered/purchased? Anyone know?

That would clarify exactly what was said about each photo as it was entered in evidence, for example.

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Caveat that transcripts take time to turn around, before anyone decides to take a field trip.

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Anonymous wrote:The one thing that certain PPs keep asserting without ANY evidence from police is that CB was drugged.

That's a HUGE leap from what is publicly known. All the other hypotheses about who was where and who did what are based on the pieces of evidence that we know. But, the whole premise that she was drugged is entirely unsupported despite recent international events.

The strongest theories of the case account for CB's whereabouts and actions without adding drugs into the theory.

It best accounts for no signs of struggle or defensive actions or wounds to BB as she fought for her life.

What else explains?

Very simple to do. Then only 1 victim to overpower.

What are your theories as to where she was?

Why do you think there were no signs of struggle?

Why do you think there were no scratches to BB as CB fought for her life?

I’m finding it fascinating what theories people are willing to entertain and which ones they say are victim blaming/shaming and wildly inappropriate.

What are your theories as to where she was?

Why do you think there were no signs of struggle?

Why do you think there were no scratches to BB as CB fought for her life?

I don’t have theories, but I’ve asked the same questions you have and was told that I was derailing the conversation 🙄

The ones who want to baselessly speculate about CB in ways that are similar to BB's agenda don't like the brutal killings to be discussed, only victim smearing speculation. Just ignore and as Jeff says, don't feed the trolls. The victim smearing did not work re: LE or Commonwealth, nothing else matters. A jury will be horrified by the facts of the KILLINGS. And that a little girl was left with no mommy.

It isn't baseless speculation. There are many reasons why there is valid speculation into what CB knew of JR prior to the morning of the murder:
-The account was created on her computer
-JR talked to someone he thought was CB
-A friend of JR said he was planning to meet a couple he had previously met. JR was sent a picture of CB so he knew what she looked like
-There was likely a time when CB and JR were in the house prior to BB arriving. This would have been easier to manage if CR was expecting JR
-There have been NO reports of CB being drugged

We are all here speculating, including you. You don't get to draw the line on what is OK and your speculation isn't more acceptable than anyone else's because you end it with faux concern for the victim's families.

It really doesn't matter whether Christine was into kinky fetish sex or not. What matters is that her husband and his girlfriend killed her and Joe. The reason that Joe was in the house DOES. NOT. MATTER.

This thread is for speculation and discussion. It doesn't get to 280 pages without discussion on all aspects of the case. It's annoying how some feel they get to police what can and can't be speculated on.

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Anonymous wrote:The one thing that certain PPs keep asserting without ANY evidence from police is that CB was drugged.

That's a HUGE leap from what is publicly known. All the other hypotheses about who was where and who did what are based on the pieces of evidence that we know. But, the whole premise that she was drugged is entirely unsupported despite recent international events.

The strongest theories of the case account for CB's whereabouts and actions without adding drugs into the theory.

It best accounts for no signs of struggle or defensive actions or wounds to BB as she fought for her life.

What else explains?

Very simple to do. Then only 1 victim to overpower.

What are your theories as to where she was?

Why do you think there were no signs of struggle?

Why do you think there were no scratches to BB as CB fought for her life?

I’m finding it fascinating what theories people are willing to entertain and which ones they say are victim blaming/shaming and wildly inappropriate.

What are your theories as to where she was?

Why do you think there were no signs of struggle?

Why do you think there were no scratches to BB as CB fought for her life?

I don’t have theories, but I’ve asked the same questions you have and was told that I was derailing the conversation 🙄

The ones who want to baselessly speculate about CB in ways that are similar to BB's agenda don't like the brutal killings to be discussed, only victim smearing speculation. Just ignore and as Jeff says, don't feed the trolls. The victim smearing did not work re: LE or Commonwealth, nothing else matters. A jury will be horrified by the facts of the KILLINGS. And that a little girl was left with no mommy.

It isn't baseless speculation. There are many reasons why there is valid speculation into what CB knew of JR prior to the morning of the murder:
-The account was created on her computer
-JR talked to someone he thought was CB
-A friend of JR said he was planning to meet a couple he had previously met. JR was sent a picture of CB so he knew what she looked like
-There was likely a time when CB and JR were in the house prior to BB arriving. This would have been easier to manage if CR was expecting JR
-There have been NO reports of CB being drugged

We are all here speculating, including you. You don't get to draw the line on what is OK and your speculation isn't more acceptable than anyone else's because you end it with faux concern for the victim's families.

It really doesn't matter whether Christine was into kinky fetish sex or not. What matters is that her husband and his girlfriend killed her and Joe. The reason that Joe was in the house DOES. NOT. MATTER.

This thread is for speculation and discussion. It doesn't get to 280 pages without discussion on all aspects of the case. It's annoying how some feel they get to police what can and can't be speculated on.

+1!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In FFX will the transcript be available to the public at the courthouse or does it have to be ordered/purchased? Anyone know?

The Circuit Court transcripts are available for purchase from ICR/Rudinger (https://icrdepos.com/) after they are transcribed.

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Anonymous wrote:When the paramedics arrived, was the little girl still in the basement all by herself!?

Right??? I want to know this to, I cannot believe these disgusting people had the girl locked (I presume she was locked because otherwise wouldn't she have been curious about why they left her there for so long?) in the basement while they were dong this. It's the most horrific part of it all, IMO.

Killing 2 people in cold blood is pretty horrific too, imho.

What was any of it even for? Thrill kills? They were arrested and will go away for a very long time. They were already carrying on prior, trips together, etc. And then you've got TB, defo OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW BETTER, witness tampering while being recorded in FFX jail. Maybe all 3 are so dumb they thought the'd get away with it. Almost no one does. And that BB has been talking about doing this for years takes the cake. What a silver tongued devil he is.

Joe, Christine, little girl with no mom, Joe's mom, you all deserved so much better.

They have to be psychos. A divorce would be so much easier for them, and sparing all the innocents.